So, my friends and I were playing EDH together, and one of them cast Sheoldred, Whispering One. During one of my other friends turn, he had Sen Triplets out as his only creature. How do they interact?
My thought process:
Untap
Beginning of Upkeep
Active players "Beginning of Upkeep" triggers go on the stack
Opposing players "Beginning of Upkeep" triggers go on the stack (clockwise)
Opposing players triggers resolve first
Active players triggers resolve last.
Or, in other words
Untap
Beginning of upkeep Sen Triplets ability goes on the stack, targeting specified opponent Sheoldred, Whispering One's ability goes on the stack
Active player sac's only creature (Sen Triplets) Sen Triplets ability resolves, targeted opponent reveals hand. Active player may cast cards from their hand for the rest of the turn.
What my friend (Just got his lvl 1 Judge) said was this:
Untap
Beginning of upkeep Sen Triplets ability goes on the stack, targeting specified opponent Sheoldred ability goes on the stack
Active player sac's only creature (Sen Triplets) Sen Triplets ability resolves, active player cannot cast cards from the targeted opponents hand due to the period at the end of the first sentence "At the beginning of your upkeep, choose target opponent." Since Sen Triplets is no longer alive, the rest doesn't happen.
I feel he is wrong, because had it been worded like the following, I could understand:
"At the beginning of your upkeep, choose target opponent.
[New paragraph]
This turn, that player can't cast spells or activate abilities..."
But, just like the Leonin Relic-Warder compared to Banisher Priest, Banisher Priest has one paragraph, so it is all one ability, no matter how many periods there are and Leonin has two abilities, so you can put the first on the stack, then sacrifice it to put the second ability on the stack, resolving the second first, then the first secondly to permanently exile something....I feel like Sen Triplets one paragraph ability would fully resolve and my friend is wrong and mistaken.
Any help? Who's right?
P.S. Do I need to [ c a r d ] [ / c a r d] every time I put in a name, or only the first time for each card? AKA if I say Black Lotus blah blah blah....Black Lotus. Do I need to hyperlink both, or just the first time?
I was playing a 2 headed giant EDH game and my partner had out Leyline of Sanctity. Now, can they target me with a combo such as Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood? I am 99% certain they can, but I feel like in the back of my head we are "1 player" thus it would cover me....but I am not 100% sure.
So, I have been in this game since Unhinged and I got into the price of cards heavily around Worldwake when I had a playset of Jace, the Mind Sculptor and sold them for $120 not realizing that shortly after they would spike to that price....each! And within the last three years I have been collecting all the dual lands I could. I remember snipe bidding them off of eBay for $40 for Bayou and $70 for Tropical Island. Now Bayous are in the $160 range and Underground Sea is actually having to struggle for the title of "Most Expensive Original Dual Land" with Volcanic Island at almost $300 EACH!!!
So, can anyone tell me, why such the massive spike in price? Or is this just a common thing, like every 3 years they double in price (Which I have a complete Revised set now, so I wouldn't mind at all)?
And do you think Wizards will do anything about this spike in price, or just say "eff" it and let it keep rising? I know that there is a reserved list and they are on it for no reprinting....I mean just to make a BUG legacy deck, it will cost you like $2,800 for a decent land base and some force of wills and Tarmogoyf.
AH HA HA!!! I knew it!!! I told my friend that...because I see it as both permanents need to be on the battlefield in order for the legend rule to take effect, and since they are both on the field, for a split second the field will get +4/+4 and -4/-4. Thank you again.
So, recently a good friend told me that he knows a very reliable source for Magic, and they told him that Magic: the Gathering will be reprinting the Onslaught fetchlands soon. Including that $100 Polluted Delta. Now, when I heard this, some of my other friends were near, and they know a lot about the story behind magic. He tied it together all perfectly.
According to her back story, Kiora was on the plane of Zendikar while the Eldrazi were there. She fled in search of help. Link here.
As all of us currently know, Kiora is on the plane of Theros and doing what her lore says and gathering the most powerful Krackens, Leviathins, etc. in hopes to go back and fight off the Eldrazi.
So, could the next cycle be RTZ or Return to Zendikar? We all have heard that within time, the Eldrazi will be making another appearance some time from now. So, being a puzzle solver like most, (and a conspiracy theorist) I feel that with the proposed theories and lore, soon we will be having a return to my favorite set ever, Zendikar.
So, for discussion, what do you think? Have you heard anything similar, or any thoughts/ideas/evidence that proves/disproves my thoughts?
It explains itself...if I have 2 Elesh Norn out, will there be any point in time that the opponents board will have -4/-4, or does the Legend rule take effect first?
**WARNING: This idea is still in alpha, so it will have flaws, but if it sounds interesting enough, please, help perfect this.
Like some/most of you, I play myself bored of one format. So, then I hop onto a new format, love it, play and play and play and play (repeat many times) that format, get great, then get bored of it. So, I am here to introduce to you all, an new format that friends and I have worked on a little bit and I want to take it to the web and see what you all think of it. I feel it's a possible big time casual format, like EDH/Commander.
Name:
60/30 (up for change, but it is basic enough and easy to remember)
Deck Construction:
You have a 60 card deck, made up completely of land, and another 30 card deck made up completely of spells. The land deck can have any type of land, even land such as Dryad Arbor which is a creature in addition or Celestial Colonnade that becomes creature. Playset in the 60 card deck is still 4x but in the 30 card deck, it is 2x, since it is 1/2 the size.
Play:
You draw 4 cards from your land deck so only you can see them. Then, like in Texas Hold-Em you reveal the top 3 cards of your 30 card library. Now, everything kind of plays itself. You still have the 1 land drop a turn, you draw 1 card from the 60 deck during your draw phase, and like commanders in EDH/Commander, the river (3 cards from the 30 library), you can cast at any time you could legally cast them, if you have the mana. When you cast a spell from the river, you reveal the next card from the deck, so if you cast a spell, you could reveal a counterspell while it's on the stack. You both start with 20 life.
Banned List:
So far, the banned list is just Power 9, the ante cards, any card like Mind Grind/Mind Funeral since all lands will be separated, and Omniscience (Like I said, VERY ALPHA). I am thinking of starting off actually with the Legacy ban/restricted list..but I feel like other cards, like in EDH, need to be banned/unbanned compared to legacy.
Odds and Ends:
Spells that talk about starting in your hand, such as Leyline of the Void or Chancellor of the Annex, still happen, only if in the opening river (or land hand works too for cards like Gemstone Caverns) Things that make you draw, such as Brainstorm you can choose to draw from either deck. The river can only have a maximum of 5 spells once a spell is done being resolved (ex. You have 4 cards on the river, you cast Brainstorm, now you have 7 cards on the river, then you put 2 cards back on top of your deck, thus now you have 5 after it resolves. You cannot cast something that will leave you with more than 5 cards on the river after resolution. This helps prevent some of the more annoying shenanigans. Instead, you can have as many cards in your hand from the land deck as you wish, but your max hand size (before modifiers) is still 7. If someone mills (put top card of players library into the graveyard) a deck, the targeted player chooses which one. You have 2 graveyards, and if you want to do anything with either, you declare which one. For example, if you want to Life from the Loam, you can go for land deck, if you want to cast Reanimate, it will target the spell deck, or if you cast Eternal Witness you can choose either graveyard....but only 1 card still, not 1 from both.
Personal ideas:
When I first thought of this idea, I wanted it to be 60/30 and put the top 10 cards from 30 onto river, and those are the ONLY spells you get for the whole game, but that idea was removed just because I think others would like to switch spells instead of be a Pokemon with only certain spells. I personally still love this idea, but I want to know what the vast crowd thinks. Then I thought to myself, blue will be very strong with the counterspells, but at the same time, I feel mill will be strong, and I feel green ramp will be powerful....pretty much, it isn't limiting much things. I feel like this is 60% of an idea, and I just have that last little fun quirk that I need to add in to make this a real fun idea.
Please, give this idea a chance, I do truly believe it is a very fun format, I have now been playing this for 2 months with some other friends to see how it works, and we all like it a lot.
Here is my current deck (and yes, I do own all of these cards):
Idea 1:
The river is smaller aka 3 cards, but when you cast a spell, you get a new one to replace the old. This is nice, because it offers more variety.
Idea 2:
Your river is huge aka 7 cards, but those are the only spells you get, permanents you can only have X of at a time on the board (X is to be determined, I want to say 2 at most, but at the same time, maybe only 1?...up for debate). This is nice because this offers more strategy. Having more than 1 of the same permanent card up in the river allows for an additional X of them to be played. This idea also stops reanimation, since you would effectively be putting an token of the card out like in Momir Basic Vanguard, thus you don't have a graveyard. Also, in this idea, the banned list would have a LOT more cards on there....imagine all the possible 1 drop spells that would be outrageous. We might have to drop down the spell count aka you can only play X spells a turn....but I feel that is getting too YuGiOh....and there is a reason why I am on this site, and not YuGiOhSalvation (if there is such site).
So, that is my idea....I hope for the best, but I don't expect it.... Leave comments below to help better this idea. If you say this idea is bad, please, tell me why. I want to figure out all the flaws to this so I can try to fix any and all of them to make this a fun casual format. Also, I don't wish for this to become a new tournament format like Standard/Legacy/Modern, because then the whole casualness will be killed off, and that's what I am going for..
I love you for 1 reason....where I play, EVERYONE who plays blue (except me for a good reason) plays Enter the Omniscience aka Omniscience and Enter the Infinite
Here is what I think (more like hope because a big voice in my head says I am wrong)
Prossh costs 6...when he dies and goes to general zone, now he costs 8 so his new CMC is 8. Does that statistic stay on him with Food Chain?
If it does then what I see is:
Food Chain reads: Sacrifice Prossh and pay 1 to recast him (besides needing the 2 other colors of him).
So if you had out Mycosynth Lattice you could effectively just pay 1 and recast him.
FLARGABARGIN!?!?!?! I forgot all about those...well not Wak-Wak....never heard of that card until today...but I need to put my Maze in there... Thank you for the idea!
I don't go by the French 1v1 rules. I personally am not a fan of those rules because simple things like Sol Ring are banned but not Emrakul, the Aeons Torn when Em is far worse than a Sol.
Now, this is my Rafiq EDH deck list....I know there are a few cards, like Nykthos, Everflowing Chalice, Aura Shards, etc that I wish to take out, but I need cards to put in. I also want to get Tundra, Tropical Island, Force of Will, Stoneforge Mystic, etc...but either they are quite pricey, or I cannot find someone to trade me one. If you wish, please critique. Unless you are rude, I will take everything as critical feedback. This is my first control and voltron EDH, so go easy. I am used to building mid-game combo/reanimate decks.
Alright, so Conspire is a little confusing to me on the ability sub groupings...
Which of the two cards can I use to copy the conspire ability?
Illusionist's Bracers deals with activated abilities, which I don't really think would work because the ability conspire doesn't have [Cost]:[Ability]....but is it a triggered ability?
Yes, in the rulings it says it is two things and one of them is a triggered ability so that is why I am leaning towards Strionic Resonator....but I am not 100% sure.
So, my friends and I were playing EDH together, and one of them cast Sheoldred, Whispering One. During one of my other friends turn, he had Sen Triplets out as his only creature. How do they interact?
My thought process:
Untap
Beginning of Upkeep
Active players "Beginning of Upkeep" triggers go on the stack
Opposing players "Beginning of Upkeep" triggers go on the stack (clockwise)
Opposing players triggers resolve first
Active players triggers resolve last.
Or, in other words
Untap
Beginning of upkeep
Sen Triplets ability goes on the stack, targeting specified opponent
Sheoldred, Whispering One's ability goes on the stack
Active player sac's only creature (Sen Triplets)
Sen Triplets ability resolves, targeted opponent reveals hand. Active player may cast cards from their hand for the rest of the turn.
What my friend (Just got his lvl 1 Judge) said was this:
Untap
Beginning of upkeep
Sen Triplets ability goes on the stack, targeting specified opponent
Sheoldred ability goes on the stack
Active player sac's only creature (Sen Triplets)
Sen Triplets ability resolves, active player cannot cast cards from the targeted opponents hand due to the period at the end of the first sentence "At the beginning of your upkeep, choose target opponent." Since Sen Triplets is no longer alive, the rest doesn't happen.
I feel he is wrong, because had it been worded like the following, I could understand:
"At the beginning of your upkeep, choose target opponent.
[New paragraph]
This turn, that player can't cast spells or activate abilities..."
But, just like the Leonin Relic-Warder compared to Banisher Priest, Banisher Priest has one paragraph, so it is all one ability, no matter how many periods there are and Leonin has two abilities, so you can put the first on the stack, then sacrifice it to put the second ability on the stack, resolving the second first, then the first secondly to permanently exile something....I feel like Sen Triplets one paragraph ability would fully resolve and my friend is wrong and mistaken.
Any help? Who's right?
P.S. Do I need to [ c a r d ] [ / c a r d] every time I put in a name, or only the first time for each card? AKA if I say Black Lotus blah blah blah....Black Lotus. Do I need to hyperlink both, or just the first time?
I was playing a 2 headed giant EDH game and my partner had out Leyline of Sanctity. Now, can they target me with a combo such as Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood? I am 99% certain they can, but I feel like in the back of my head we are "1 player" thus it would cover me....but I am not 100% sure.
So, I have been in this game since Unhinged and I got into the price of cards heavily around Worldwake when I had a playset of Jace, the Mind Sculptor and sold them for $120 not realizing that shortly after they would spike to that price....each! And within the last three years I have been collecting all the dual lands I could. I remember snipe bidding them off of eBay for $40 for Bayou and $70 for Tropical Island. Now Bayous are in the $160 range and Underground Sea is actually having to struggle for the title of "Most Expensive Original Dual Land" with Volcanic Island at almost $300 EACH!!!
So, can anyone tell me, why such the massive spike in price? Or is this just a common thing, like every 3 years they double in price (Which I have a complete Revised set now, so I wouldn't mind at all)?
And do you think Wizards will do anything about this spike in price, or just say "eff" it and let it keep rising? I know that there is a reserved list and they are on it for no reprinting....I mean just to make a BUG legacy deck, it will cost you like $2,800 for a decent land base and some force of wills and Tarmogoyf.
So, recently a good friend told me that he knows a very reliable source for Magic, and they told him that Magic: the Gathering will be reprinting the Onslaught fetchlands soon. Including that $100 Polluted Delta. Now, when I heard this, some of my other friends were near, and they know a lot about the story behind magic. He tied it together all perfectly.
According to her back story, Kiora was on the plane of Zendikar while the Eldrazi were there. She fled in search of help. Link here.
As all of us currently know, Kiora is on the plane of Theros and doing what her lore says and gathering the most powerful Krackens, Leviathins, etc. in hopes to go back and fight off the Eldrazi.
So, could the next cycle be RTZ or Return to Zendikar? We all have heard that within time, the Eldrazi will be making another appearance some time from now. So, being a puzzle solver like most, (and a conspiracy theorist) I feel that with the proposed theories and lore, soon we will be having a return to my favorite set ever, Zendikar.
So, for discussion, what do you think? Have you heard anything similar, or any thoughts/ideas/evidence that proves/disproves my thoughts?
**WARNING: This idea is still in alpha, so it will have flaws, but if it sounds interesting enough, please, help perfect this.
Like some/most of you, I play myself bored of one format. So, then I hop onto a new format, love it, play and play and play and play (repeat many times) that format, get great, then get bored of it. So, I am here to introduce to you all, an new format that friends and I have worked on a little bit and I want to take it to the web and see what you all think of it. I feel it's a possible big time casual format, like EDH/Commander.
Name:
60/30 (up for change, but it is basic enough and easy to remember)
Deck Construction:
You have a 60 card deck, made up completely of land, and another 30 card deck made up completely of spells. The land deck can have any type of land, even land such as Dryad Arbor which is a creature in addition or Celestial Colonnade that becomes creature. Playset in the 60 card deck is still 4x but in the 30 card deck, it is 2x, since it is 1/2 the size.
Play:
You draw 4 cards from your land deck so only you can see them. Then, like in Texas Hold-Em you reveal the top 3 cards of your 30 card library. Now, everything kind of plays itself. You still have the 1 land drop a turn, you draw 1 card from the 60 deck during your draw phase, and like commanders in EDH/Commander, the river (3 cards from the 30 library), you can cast at any time you could legally cast them, if you have the mana. When you cast a spell from the river, you reveal the next card from the deck, so if you cast a spell, you could reveal a counterspell while it's on the stack. You both start with 20 life.
Banned List:
So far, the banned list is just Power 9, the ante cards, any card like Mind Grind/Mind Funeral since all lands will be separated, and Omniscience (Like I said, VERY ALPHA). I am thinking of starting off actually with the Legacy ban/restricted list..but I feel like other cards, like in EDH, need to be banned/unbanned compared to legacy.
Odds and Ends:
Spells that talk about starting in your hand, such as Leyline of the Void or Chancellor of the Annex, still happen, only if in the opening river (or land hand works too for cards like Gemstone Caverns) Things that make you draw, such as Brainstorm you can choose to draw from either deck. The river can only have a maximum of 5 spells once a spell is done being resolved (ex. You have 4 cards on the river, you cast Brainstorm, now you have 7 cards on the river, then you put 2 cards back on top of your deck, thus now you have 5 after it resolves. You cannot cast something that will leave you with more than 5 cards on the river after resolution. This helps prevent some of the more annoying shenanigans. Instead, you can have as many cards in your hand from the land deck as you wish, but your max hand size (before modifiers) is still 7. If someone mills (put top card of players library into the graveyard) a deck, the targeted player chooses which one. You have 2 graveyards, and if you want to do anything with either, you declare which one. For example, if you want to Life from the Loam, you can go for land deck, if you want to cast Reanimate, it will target the spell deck, or if you cast Eternal Witness you can choose either graveyard....but only 1 card still, not 1 from both.
Personal ideas:
When I first thought of this idea, I wanted it to be 60/30 and put the top 10 cards from 30 onto river, and those are the ONLY spells you get for the whole game, but that idea was removed just because I think others would like to switch spells instead of be a Pokemon with only certain spells. I personally still love this idea, but I want to know what the vast crowd thinks. Then I thought to myself, blue will be very strong with the counterspells, but at the same time, I feel mill will be strong, and I feel green ramp will be powerful....pretty much, it isn't limiting much things. I feel like this is 60% of an idea, and I just have that last little fun quirk that I need to add in to make this a real fun idea.
Please, give this idea a chance, I do truly believe it is a very fun format, I have now been playing this for 2 months with some other friends to see how it works, and we all like it a lot.
Here is my current deck (and yes, I do own all of these cards):
2x Gaea's Cradle
4x Bayou
4x Woodland Cemetery
4x Overgrown Tomb
4x Verdant Catacombs
3x Cabal Coffers
3x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
4x Deserted Temple
4x Reflecting Pool
20x Forest
6x Swamp
2x Oracle of Mul Daya
2x Courser of Kruphix
2x Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
2x Azusa, Lost but Seeking
1x Polukranos, World Eater
2x Primeval Titan
1x Sylvan Primordial
1x Mistcutter Hydra
2x Triskelion
2x Mikaeus, The Unhallowed
2x Avenger of Zendikar
2x Craterhoof Behemoth
2x Tooth and Nail
2x Animate Dead
2x Explore
1x Exploration
2x Journey of Discovery
For question 2, the ideas are as follows:
Idea 1:
The river is smaller aka 3 cards, but when you cast a spell, you get a new one to replace the old. This is nice, because it offers more variety.
Ex. Your river has Lightning Bolt Counterspell and Sylvan Caryatid. You cast Lightning Bolt, while it's on the stack and you hold priority, Shock is revealed. Everything else plays out normally.
Idea 2:
Your river is huge aka 7 cards, but those are the only spells you get, permanents you can only have X of at a time on the board (X is to be determined, I want to say 2 at most, but at the same time, maybe only 1?...up for debate). This is nice because this offers more strategy. Having more than 1 of the same permanent card up in the river allows for an additional X of them to be played. This idea also stops reanimation, since you would effectively be putting an token of the card out like in Momir Basic Vanguard, thus you don't have a graveyard. Also, in this idea, the banned list would have a LOT more cards on there....imagine all the possible 1 drop spells that would be outrageous. We might have to drop down the spell count aka you can only play X spells a turn....but I feel that is getting too YuGiOh....and there is a reason why I am on this site, and not YuGiOhSalvation (if there is such site).
Ex. Your river has Exploration Oracle of Mul Daya Avenger of Zenikar Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord Courser of Kruphix Courser of Kruphix Animate Dead. You cast one of the cards, and if you want, and have the allowance (mana and permanent restrictions) then you can cast it again.
So, that is my idea....I hope for the best, but I don't expect it.... Leave comments below to help better this idea. If you say this idea is bad, please, tell me why. I want to figure out all the flaws to this so I can try to fix any and all of them to make this a fun casual format. Also, I don't wish for this to become a new tournament format like Standard/Legacy/Modern, because then the whole casualness will be killed off, and that's what I am going for..
Here is what I think (more like hope because a big voice in my head says I am wrong)
Prossh costs 6...when he dies and goes to general zone, now he costs 8 so his new CMC is 8. Does that statistic stay on him with Food Chain?
If it does then what I see is:
Food Chain reads: Sacrifice Prossh and pay 1 to recast him (besides needing the 2 other colors of him).
So if you had out Mycosynth Lattice you could effectively just pay 1 and recast him.
FLARGABARGIN!?!?!?! I forgot all about those...well not Wak-Wak....never heard of that card until today...but I need to put my Maze in there... Thank you for the idea!
I don't go by the French 1v1 rules. I personally am not a fan of those rules because simple things like Sol Ring are banned but not Emrakul, the Aeons Torn when Em is far worse than a Sol.
So, I am curious, at the beginning of my turn, during my upkeep phase, when my Sheoldred, Whispering One's second ability goes on the stack, can I respond by using Survival of the Fittest by discarding a creature, searching for a creature, then selecting the creature I discarded with Survival of the Fittest with Sheoldred, Whispering One's second ability?
1x Rafiq of the Many
Spell Control
1x Counterspell
1x Cryptic Command
1x Daze
1x Dissolve
1x Glen Elendra Archmage
1x Grand Abolisher
1x Hinder
1x Pact of Negation
1x Render Silent
1x Rewind
1x Stifle
1x Swan Song
1x Venser, Shaper Savant
Speed Casting
1x Leyline of Anticipation
1x Prophet of Kruphix
1x Savage Summoning
Rafiq's Gear
1x Armadillo Cloak
1x Basilisk Collar
1x Behemoth Sledge
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Rancor
1x Skullclamp
1x Sword of Feast and Famine
1x Sword of Fire and Ice
1x Sword of Light and Shadow
1x Sword of War and Peace
Booster Shots
1x Berserk
1x Distortion Strike
1x Finest Hour
1x Honor of the Pure
1x Knight Exemplar
1x Quasali Pridemage
1x Selesnya Charm
1x Simic Charm
1x Sublime Archangel
1x Austere Command
1x Condemn
1x Cyclonic Rift
1x Day of Judgment
1x Oblivion Ring
1x Path to Exile
1x Supreme Verdict
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Wrath of God
Mother's Protection
1x Emerge Unscathed
1x Faith's Shield
1x Gods Willing
1x Mother of Runes
Show me the mana
1x Birds of Paradise
1x Chromatic Lantern
1x Cultivate
1x Everflowing Chalice
1x Garruk Wildspeaker
1x Harrow
1x Knight of the Reliquary
1x Lotus Cobra
1x Noble Hierarch
1x Rampant Growth
1x Sol Ring
1x Sylvan Caryatid
1x Weathered Wayfarer
Miscellaneous
1x Aura Shards
1x Eternal Witness
1x Mystical Tutor
1x Thassa, God of the Sea
1x Breeding Pool
1x Cathedral of War
1x Cavern of Souls
1x City of Brass
1x Command Tower
3x Forest
1x Glacial Fortress
1x Hallowed Fountain
1x Hinterland Harbor
7x Island
1x Mutavault
1x Nykthos, Shrine of Nyx
7x Plains
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Savannah
1x Sunpetal Grove
1x Temple Garden
1x Temple of the False God
1x Thespain's Stage
1x Tundra
1x Tropical Island
Which of the two cards can I use to copy the conspire ability?
Illusionist's Bracers deals with activated abilities, which I don't really think would work because the ability conspire doesn't have [Cost]:[Ability]....but is it a triggered ability?
Yes, in the rulings it says it is two things and one of them is a triggered ability so that is why I am leaning towards Strionic Resonator....but I am not 100% sure.
I run a Wort, the Raidmother EDH and I have Mirari but I feel copying a card twice just isn't enough...I want to cast a spell, conspire it, Mirari it, Fork it, conspire that, Mirari that and then all of it that I can, either Illusionist's Bracers or Strionic Resonator it for a grand total of WAY TOO MUCH copies....
In the words of J-Roc from Trailer Park Boys...Know whut I'm sayyyiin