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Magic Market Index for June 8th, 2018
 
Ravnica: The Living Guildpact
 
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  • posted a message on Planeswalker Deck Sarkhan and Ajani
    Aww, look at the cute widdle dwagon! That Sarkhan PW actually seems reasonably playable in EDH.

    The Ajani PW would be great for Limited...which is a shame because it can't be played in Limited.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Planeswalker Deck Tezzeret & Liliana (partial leak)
    Quote from JovianHomarid »
    So. A face down card is not necessarily automatically a 2/2 any longer? I wonder if this is something they might want to pursue with other types of mechanics..


    And can you unmorph morphs put into play this way? Based on the ruling for manifest, that you can unmorph manifested morp-cards as normal, I guess it's the same here.


    I would assume they're 2/2 unless otherwise stated. Just as my island isn't a 0/0 creature until I awaken it. (And of course I put N +1/+1 counters on it, making it usually N/N, before next state-based action.)


    The default state of a face-down permanent is a colorless, nameless 2/2 creature with no types or abilities. Effects that put permanents onto the battlefield can override those defaults. The fuzzier part is whether those overridden characteristics also apply to the permanent when it's turned face-up. I suggested it'd still be a 5/5 artifact creature when turned face-up, but actually that probably isn't the case since 707.8 states that the copiable values of the permanent would revert to the ones it would have while face-up.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Planeswalker Deck Tezzeret & Liliana (partial leak)
    Quote from JovianHomarid »
    So. A face down card is not necessarily automatically a 2/2 any longer? I wonder if this is something they might want to pursue with other types of mechanics..


    And can you unmorph morphs put into play this way? Based on the ruling for manifest, that you can unmorph manifested morp-cards as normal, I guess it's the same here.


    It's not 2/2 if the effect that puts the card on the battlefield face-down says it's something else:

    707.2. Face-down spells and face-down permanents have no characteristics other than those listed by the ability or rules that allowed the spell or permanent to be face down. Any listed characteristics are the copiable values of that object's characteristics. (See rule 613, "Interaction of Continuous Effects," and rule 706, "Copying Objects.")

    The only ways you could turn such a card face-up would be if it would have morph or megamorph while face-up (just pay the mega/morph cost), or when it leaves the battlefield (in which case you would have to).

    Quote from Gojira X »
    Quote from JovianHomarid »
    So. A face down card is not necessarily automatically a 2/2 any longer? I wonder if this is something they might want to pursue with other types of mechanics..


    And can you unmorph morphs put into play this way? Based on the ruling for manifest, that you can unmorph manifested morp-cards as normal, I guess it's the same here.


    And I suppose they'd still be artifacts if you use Ixidor, Reality Sculptor?


    It looks like they would still be artifacts when turned face-up:

    707.8. As a face-down permanent is turned face up, its copiable values revert to its normal copiable values. Any effects that have been applied to the face-down permanent still apply to the face-up permanent. Any abilities relating to the permanent entering the battlefield don't trigger and don't have any effect, because the permanent has already entered the battlefield.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Mothership spoilers 1/3/18 Azorand so many dinos
    Quote from TyranidBill »
    I think he gave up his spark to make the Immortal Sun?


    That's correct.

    Commander brewers, start your engines! If Azor sticks around (and it should if you're playing blue/white anyway), this is some good, reliable repeatable card draw, and blink effects make the ETB ability rather hilarious.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on What a Foil Basic Land (Plains) Looks Like via Twitter
    Yeah, these are going to be among the most highly sought-after basic lands in Magic history, I think.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Rivals of Ixalan planeswalker deck cards
    A lot of these would be great in Limited (particularly Angrath)...which is a shame since they'll never be played in Limited due to being PW deck cards.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Very Cryptic Command has Multiple (Randomized?) Printings
    This is incredible. I LOVE the art progression on each version of Extremely Slow Zombie.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Ixalan General Discussion
    I just hope this doesn't turn into Scars of Mirrodin II: Ixalan Pure Boogaloo. That being said, I think this is a pretty cool idea for a set clearly focused on adventure and exploration.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Unstable FAQAWASLFAQPAFTIDAWABIAJTBT (with a few unknown cards)
    Quote from urweak »
    This list would have included cards that mention ante, but there's a rule (even in silver-bordered games) that ante cards can't enter games that aren't for ante.


    What game rule says this? I couldn't find it in the comp. rules.


    There is no specific rule, but the ante cards themselves specifically prohibit their use in decks for non-ante games, and they can't enter non-ante games.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Unstable FAQAWASLFAQPAFTIDAWABIAJTBT (with a few unknown cards)
    It should be noted that unless R&D's Secret Lair is on the battlefield, Ordinary Pony now has errata to remove an unintentional non-mandatory infinite loop.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on To Infinity Elemental and Beyond
    Well, this can cause some problems, considering that (mathematically) infinity + infinity = infinity, and infinity - infinity is an indeterminate form. I feel like as soon as you give this thing lifelink and it deals damage, the game should immediately end in a draw if the opponent still has a finite life total above 0.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on GO TO JAIL - COmmanderin Youtube Spoiler
    Parking is never truly free.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Split Screen + Animate Library?
    Quote from MadMageQc »
    Silver-bordered cards aren't covered by Magic's official rules, so any answer given on something they do that the normal rules don't cover is always just interpretation, and in the end, it's your playgroup who decides what to do. Now, there is a good chance that if anything ressembling a FAQ about interactions between cards in the set is released (probably written by Mark Rosewater, the un-official un-rules un-manager), it will cover his interpretation of the interaction between those two. Personaly, I am quite convinced that Animate Library would end up enchanting only one of the four libraries, no matter if it was put on the battlefield first or after Split Screen. Each library is treated as a different "object", Split Screen tells you that something that talks about your library talks about one of the four, and an aura never enchants more than one thing or player at a time (unless you make up that it does, which your playgroup can certainly decide to do).


    Mark Rosewater commented on his Blogatog and on Twitter that the FAQ for Unstable should be released tomorrow. We should get an answer to this question then.
    Posted in: Magic Rulings
  • posted a message on Animate Library and Novellamental Wizards spoiler
    Quote from Chadelicious »
    Hmmm... how is this going to work in conjunction with Split Screen?


    I guess you could only enchant one of your libraries in that case.

    Novellamental is another one of those "oh, this is a black bordered card" cards, but the art is hilarious.

    Animate Library...YES.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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