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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    It doesn’t really. That was an very OMGUS reaction from me.
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    Also I had a thought. The Gozer thing could be an ability granted to a vanilla player. We’re probably voting on who gets the ability not what ability Gozer gets.
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    Was that a lynch? Why you do dis?
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    I'm back

    Ok, I just went through Rod’s ISO, I really don’t think he’s scum, his stance against mass flavor claiming and how he explains how it may help both sides tracks as town. His beef with high roller seems legitimately paranoid and he’s been trying to shake things off the scum tree by voting several different players that stood out to him. I encourage people to go read his ISO. Even though it’s four pages, it’s a pretty easy read.

    Need to look back at this post regardless of Rod's alignment.

    Quote from Vaimes »
    “Don’t see the point in playing if I’m going to be lynched.”

    The point is that if you’re facing your death and you start *****ting towny rainbows, the lynch will organically move elsewhere, you clown.

    Rofl Rofl Rofl

    Quote from Rhand »
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Not putting in the work to find scum on/off your wagon just makes you look like scum who doesn’t want to leave a paper trail if you do actually get lynched.

    This.

    If Rodemy flups scum, we have to take a hard look at tom toMorrow.

    Why?

    Quote from Rhand »
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Not putting in the work to find scum on/off your wagon just makes you look like scum who doesn’t want to leave a paper trail if you do actually get lynched.

    This.

    If Rodemy flups scum, we have to take a hard look at tom toMorrow.
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Vaimes are you powerwolfing with rod and fuwa rn?

    What is powerwolfing?

    #571-#573 are why I still believe Rod is town. It feels like real anger and not fake scum being accused rage.

    Quote from Highroller »
    Is it me or is Grapefruit21 making it obvious he's not town?

    Quote from Highroller »
    ... Terry, I literally just got through explaining this. It's one thing to not read the thread, it's another to not read the post right above you.
    i did read your post and I disagreed with it which is why I quoted the posts you made that sounded like you were quoting a role pm and not the previously posted wincon from the OP. Just take your deep clear and be happy with it
    Ok, actually read what you quoted.

    Do those quotes say I quoted my role PM? No. They do not. They point out that Rodemy thought I quoted my role PM.

    It's called reading.

    Quote from Rumanshi »

    No, by rodemys reasoning you could have only been Scum. As. You. Werent. Modkilled.
    Which would have been impossible, as if I were mafia, how could I have quoted a town win condition verbatim?

    Remember: Rodemy didn't know the town win condition was posted in the thread until after this whole fiasco happened. So by Rodemy's reasoning, that would have been an impossible act. How could I get the wording of the town win condition exact as a serial killer? Yet Rodemy continued to vote for me.

    Quote from Tubba Fett »
    My issue with the Highroller/Rod situation is, if we move past the angleshooty, role pm scenario, there’s still no real reason that Rod can’t believe that Roller is scum. If
    you were able to read the town win con in thread, it means you didn’t need to have received it in private.
    Holy *****, how many times do I have to explain this? It's not that complicated.

    Rodemy didn't know the town win condition was posted in the thread. So when I posted it, he thought I'd quoted my role PM directly. Yet he didn't unvote me (despite the fact that the only way I could have quoted a town win condition in his mind would have been if I were town), and he later tried to excuse himself by saying he didn't believe me at the time, even though that would make even less sense, because why would you disbelieve someone being town when he quoted the town win condition? How would this be possible?

    Quote from Rodemy »

    BACK THE BOLDES THE **** UP PLEASE
    ... Are you saying you knew the town win condition had been made public knowledge when you made these posts?

    Quote from Rodemy »

    Ayyye, i thought we couldn't quote any part of our role pm directly....

    Quote from Rodemy »
    DO NOT directly quote or screenshot your role PM or any private communications (QuickTopics, etc.) when posting in the main game thread.

    Congratulations, you've found a way to make even less sense than you previously were.

    This post does not demonstrate that Rod did or didn't know that the info was in the rules. I think we are getting too tangled up in that point. And if you don't consider that point, he's just been fairly null. I understand that he is probably going to be the lynch, but I think we have better options for today.

    Quote from Fuwa »
    Vaimes and Grapefruit for town.

    Vaimes for the effort of making sure he's not gonna mislynch and Grape for not being opportunistic.

    tom maaybe town. but he's wrong.
    Quote from EtR »
    Quote from Fuwa »
    @EtR What's your current read on Elijah and Highroller? (and me, maybe.. if you want to do three)


    Highroller I'm coming around on. I didn't like his first few posts, but he's said some good things recently and I like his stance on Gozer. I have him closer to town than scum.

    Elijah I still think is scum and he has done nothing to change my mind. In fact, I can't think of anything relevant that he's done since I took my vote of him to vote for you.

    For you, I still believe you to be scum. There was a lot that you didn't comment on during your initial catch up post. It felt like a lot of questions for the sake of questions. I also am concerned with some of your wording as I've pointed out.
    How does this affect your read on Rod?
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    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from EtR »
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    @highroller: Of course I thought the votes were suspicious. I was trying to get ETR to elaborate on his thoughts on who is more likely to be scum.


    I'm not sure, but with interactions it will be a lot easier to tell soon. If I were forced to guess now, I would say Tom, but I haven't been reading Tom as scum. So it's a big GrrrAAAAAH
    yo what's suspicious about wagoning one of my scumreads?

    It wasn't that you voted for Rod specifically, it was the manner. It was a naked vote with no further justification in what felt like a "safe" time to do it.

    I'm still inclined to believe Rod is just bad town at this point.
    My gut says this is scum post.
    Idk, it feels like you know what Rod will flip. If he flips scum, then you have established his bad play, but if he flips town, you would be in the I-got-it-right-so-listen-to-me kind of group. To me this sounds more like you just don't want to vote him.

    1. It didn't change my Rod read at all. It's day 1 and I don't think at this point I can really get anyone's alignment based on my belief of other players alignment.
    2. I've said since the beginning that I believe Rod's town. If he is scum then I will have to deal with the repercussions of defending him. You can try and set this up early, but it feels like YOU know how I will flip and will point to this later to get your own town cred. 2 Thumbs down.

    Quote from Tubba Fett »

    Okay, fair enough.
    My thoughts on Rod are based more in Rod’s play than any potential slip up based on “Modkillgate”. I’ve mentioned previously that Rod is not playing like what I’ve come to expect. There’s no drive, no attempts to solve, and his early game flip flop stance on Tom is spurious. Couple that with no engagement with the thread at large, and you have what appears to be a scummy Rod.

    I didn't expect this as a response and this feels very genuine. You can be town.

    V/LA Friday-Sunday. Will try to post Sunday evening.

    Rhand: I asked Vaimes about the scumteam because he made a comment about the scumteam. More importantly - "this doesn't make sense" is the primary behavioral way to catch scum. Scum set an agenda and then weave a web of lies to support it; inconsistencies in the web are how we detect that.

    Terry, if this is town Rod being pushed by scum, who's the scum pushing him?
    You

    Shot fired?

    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    At work today but the plan is to do my due diligence to make sure I don't prefer lynching Fuwa, Ruma, or someone else to Rod. Expect quote walls to follow.

    Please tell me you came around...

    The Vaimes/HighRoller conversation feels like a convo between town/scum. But... if Highroller is scum he has to know that pushing this Rod thing will put the target on him so that doesn't make sense and Vaimes has read town to me all game. Who was it that first mentioned the neutral?

    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    After reading this whole page I come out thinking grape is pretty town and Vaimes is kinda scum.

    I really want a Rod flip to put another piece in the puzzle, but I think the game is solvable tomorrow.

    Yuck

    Quote from Rhand »
    I feel like putting Rodemy at L-1. Any objections?

    Me







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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    PTAP - I’ll catch up later today. 13 inches of snow here have really screwed up my flow.
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    Quote from Tubba Fett »
    Quote from EtR »
    Quote from Tubba Fett »
    ^Tom just put this far more eloquently than I could.
    It’s time to let this go and analyze more productive things. This is a logic circle that only gets deeper.
    I like Roller’s vehemence here, it’s a town look to me. I’d like Rod to do something, but I’m probably just going to slot him scum until that happens.

    Vote Rod

    What did you like about Tom's post. Specifically.


    I don’t think there’s any value to be had in Rod/Roller chasing each other around the SK/PM scenario, and shifting focus to things more likely to bear fruit was necessary.
    Tom’s post summed up my thoughts on the subject pretty well.


    But you believe Rod to be scum? Tom's post was pretty wishy-washy on his thoughts about Rod, but you said you agreed with it, and still voted Rod. So just to be clear, you don't believe (based on what Tom's post said) that Rod's PM debacle was an alignment tell, but you still voted him?

    I can't make those two thoughts line up in my head.
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    Quote from Tubba Fett »
    ^Tom just put this far more eloquently than I could.
    It’s time to let this go and analyze more productive things. This is a logic circle that only gets deeper.
    I like Roller’s vehemence here, it’s a town look to me. I’d like Rod to do something, but I’m probably just going to slot him scum until that happens.

    Vote Rod

    What did you like about Tom's post. Specifically.
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    I don't know if I'll have a ton of time over the weekend, but I'll try and check in.
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    Quote from Rodemy »


    THIS IS MY FACE WHEN TOM FLIRTS WITH ME

    anyway. Either lynch more or don't. If we aren't lynching me give me time to analyze my counterwagon and others and actually put forth some effort.

    You should be doing this regardless.
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from EtR »
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    @highroller: Of course I thought the votes were suspicious. I was trying to get ETR to elaborate on his thoughts on who is more likely to be scum.


    I'm not sure, but with interactions it will be a lot easier to tell soon. If I were forced to guess now, I would say Tom, but I haven't been reading Tom as scum. So it's a big GrrrAAAAAH
    yo what's suspicious about wagoning one of my scumreads?

    It wasn't that you voted for Rod specifically, it was the manner. It was a naked vote with no further justification in what felt like a "safe" time to do it.

    I'm still inclined to believe Rod is just bad town at this point.
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    Also as a counterpoint to the Rod lynch, looking at the game so far, if he is town, we aren’t going to gain a whole lot of knowledge since his ply has been so bad.
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    I would also like everyone's thoughts on FUWA as I'm the only one voting her at the moment and haven't really heard much else regarding her. This would be my choice for countering Rod.
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    @highroller: Of course I thought the votes were suspicious. I was trying to get ETR to elaborate on his thoughts on who is more likely to be scum.


    I'm not sure, but with interactions it will be a lot easier to tell soon. If I were forced to guess now, I would say Tom, but I haven't been reading Tom as scum. So it's a big GrrrAAAAAH
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  • posted a message on Ghostbusters Mafia - Day 1: Pecked to Death
    Quote from Fuwa »
    @EtR What's your current read on Elijah and Highroller? (and me, maybe.. if you want to do three)


    Highroller I'm coming around on. I didn't like his first few posts, but he's said some good things recently and I like his stance on Gozer. I have him closer to town than scum.

    Elijah I still think is scum and he has done nothing to change my mind. In fact, I can't think of anything relevant that he's done since I took my vote of him to vote for you.

    For you, I still believe you to be scum. There was a lot that you didn't comment on during your initial catch up post. It felt like a lot of questions for the sake of questions. I also am concerned with some of your wording as I've pointed out.
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