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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Skimming Rhand's ISO makes Chris look less likely (a ton of early soft push on Chris by Rhand and that weird interaction around Silver towards the EoD). Not a full unaligned read but approaching it.

    Also Rhand is just scummy.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Actually I should say I'm not actively looking at Chris, nothing excludes him as a possibility, I'm just more interested in Rhand and am trying to generate traction there.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Chris and Rhand totally works but Rhand is like the more obvious scum here.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »
    Rule of three is that scum are more likely to mention 1 buddy in any group of three. It's also a meme because it's so well known that people intentionally mess with it and it's actually largely useless but for a newish/uncomfortable scum like KA it might actually be valuable but the more important part is the chainsaw.
    ok so can you remind again where it comes into play this game?

    Contrary to what Silver said my application is in his chainsawing.

    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    @Will, actually Rhand explained his Shadow town read.

    @Tom, you are nigh impossible to lynch. Shadow is also equally hard. I am guessing this town will probably have to wait a day or two, see you guys are still alive, and then put focus on you. It is an unfortunate truth.

    Re: the grape meta thing, I really don't get your angle. Go reread my interactions with him in GoT D1 and then my comments beginning D2. My question towards GF wasn't trying to "catch" anyone or anything. It was asking a question I was curious about.

    That's what I'm rule of threeing. No way he picks that random bit of information out if one of the three isn't a buddy.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Rule of three is that scum are more likely to mention 1 buddy in any group of three. It's also a meme because it's so well known that people intentionally mess with it and it's actually largely useless but for a newish/uncomfortable scum like KA it might actually be valuable but the more important part is the chainsaw.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Quote from Cantripmancer »
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »

    I found them completely lacking in persuasion. Giving a read based on mechanical speculation (which is the strongest thing you pointed to) is the exact easiest type of read to fake on a buddy.

    As for why Shadow looks bad take a look at 331. I think it's very likely that 1 of Will, Shadow, or Rhand is a buddy. I obviously have Rhand as most likely but it's also a weird defense of Shadow.
    I don't see where you see Will/Shadow/Rhand being more likely to be buddies from 331. Just that first line? That doesn't feel nearly significant enough to warrant your highlight. What am I missing?

    Yep. It's a classic rule of three but I'm putting extra significance on it because it happens to be a chainsaw. He's going out of his way to discredit a read. I think he only bothered because a buddy was involved somehow.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    @Grapefruit
    fine, for your sake, I will reread Rhand (as well as Lng and their interactions)
    I still don't know how much I believe Chris/Silver, since looking back at their posts, if they are wolf/wolf, their theater is insane
    ill humor it again later, they both can still individually be wolfy though

    I don't think Ilver would be buddies with Chris even if he were scum. Claiming you watched a random townie is insane but no more insane than randomly claiming watcher like that.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Wow that's just an utterly bizarre watch claim...

    Silver do you really think a targeted IC is weak?

    I just...

    I don't think I want to vote silver but I also really want to. At least I'm pretty sure Wisp and Silver aren't scum buddies over this. I think this actually makes me think they're town together. Which goes against every fiber of my being but also seems right.

    More Rhand votes please. Or further justifications for why the way LnG handled Rhand is clearing because I do not see it at all.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Quote from Vaimes »
    Quote from Grapefruit21 »

    I found them completely lacking in persuasion. Giving a read based on mechanical speculation (which is the strongest thing you pointed to) is the exact easiest type of read to fake on a buddy.

    As for why Shadow looks bad take a look at 331. I think it's very likely that 1 of Will, Shadow, or Rhand is a buddy. I obviously have Rhand as most likely but it's also a weird defense of Shadow.
    I have Rhand as least likely!

    Please adjust.

    Why do you have rhand as least likely?
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    @grape
    Doubt, u are so focused on Rhand, I've already pointed out that some interactions make Rhand/grr unlikely

    Tell me why shadow looks bad?

    I found them completely lacking in persuasion. Giving a read based on mechanical speculation (which is the strongest thing you pointed to) is the exact easiest type of read to fake on a buddy.

    As for why Shadow looks bad take a look at 331. I think it's very likely that 1 of Will, Shadow, or Rhand is a buddy. I obviously have Rhand as most likely but it's also a weird defense of Shadow.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Vote: Rhand
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    Vote Rhand

    For not doing tours in Stuttgart! (Honestly though, trying to convince my wife to road trip to Belgium/Bruges. Anything that would help is much obliged.)

    @Cantrip, how do you think I felt? I didn't even start with a faction.

    @tom, is your character some sort of Marilyn Monroe type? Because I am pretty sure that's the only way I will read it after your "big brute" comment lol

    @Silver, please don't do what Last did in GoT.

    @GF, why do you think people haven't been reading you as towny lately?

    Is rule of 5 a thing? I'd guess exactly 1 buddy is included in this scattershot. Rhand>>Cantrip~=Shadow would be my guess.

    Agreeing with Silver that Tubba looks pretty great from the interactions.

    331 is not a great look for Rhand or Shadow.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    I'm not hard pushing anything yet. I may wind up back on him. The strength of my disbelief isn't so strong that it overrides the fact that if I'm wrong he can be cleared mechanically.

    Anyway finally getting to this D1 reread.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    Quote from Rodemy »
    This is a contradiction of the highest.

    If you don’t really believe wisps role, then you shouldn’t believe there is a role blocker blocking him.

    [b] vote grapefruit[\b]

    sigh

    My point is that either:
    Wisp is telling the truth and once the RB is dead he clears himself
    or
    Wisp is lying and is scum

    The risk vs reward on killing someone who could clear themselves eventually is wrong. I don't really believe him and have him at above random to be scum but not by enough that I'm going to ignore his role toDay.
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  • posted a message on Hill House Mafia Day 2: Tom Does Dallas
    @Rod I really don't believe Wisp's role is true but the risk/reward is out of whack if we're wrong and it is. The second we find and kill the RB he can clear himself if it's true. But for now I'm not touching him even though I have these niggling doubts in the back of my mind.
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