MTG Salvation

Anyway still pointing to Rod lacking any paranoia as a scum tell.

These forum down times are rough

Anyone pushing GJ as a wolf after the dive he just did on me is kidding themselves. I know it's easier to say that knowing my alignment and that we're not buddies, but when I flip do me a favor and don't say "Ohhh well GJ must be scum anyway." He could very easily have not done a dive that produced decent content suggesting I shouldn't be lynched while still not being sure but he did. The man is town here.

Rod is often erratic but here he is showing no paranoia which is the most constant staple of town rodemy. He is beyond convinced. Sure wanting to end things early isn't outside his town range but not expressing any worries about anything is.

@GJ my outlook completely changed with Kpaca and Tom's flips. I went from having dota and KA as moderate to likely scum to extremely town in very little time.

That made me reevaluate Rod who was cleared entirely by the Kami/Anak thing Vaimes mentioned. Still don't think he'd do it as scum but it makes more sense than you, Vaimes, Dota, or KA being scum to me right now.

I'm the backup vig. If player [redacted] dies before me I gain one shot of killing power. I don't know the player but will be notified when I get my bullet via PM.

Vote: Wheat

I now think GJ is town. Does Rod + Mansi work? The defending on this page feels too obvious but like nothing else makes sense.

Regardless Rods haste to end the day while shading me for questioning Vaimes reeks of scum. Plus tom was like super into my tstbs clear of him.

Rodemy thanks for open wolfing. Makes my life easier.

@Vaimes that makes sense. Not sure how I didn't put it together. Anyway that pretty much removes the niggling doubts I was having about you. I was reading that as building up to a track even as I knew that didn't make sense.

Also I just realized how bad my setup gaming has been. Having a vig + and night phase skipper makes no sense. They fill the same design space.

@Vaimes okay that's fair. What about this one? It's a pretty big soft that you just dropped and never clarified

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Thanks for forgetting me, jerk.

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Mafia losing a kill is awesome, considering it’s apparently mylo.

I highly doubt kpaca had anything to do with stopping the kill for raisins that should be obvious.

I’ll be at a computer tonight or in the morning, currently on a road trip thing.

Kpaca's complete lack of an agenda yesterday other than "argue with wisp" makes me think he was happy with the direction of the game. Which is further evidence of Kami being town in my book.

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Vote Grapefruit21

I sorta feel like I might be smelling what your stepping in here.

How sure are you with this vote?

Eh? 50/50 tossup between him and DoTA.

Also kinda wanna vote tom.

Can you talk about this some more Vaimes? I'm slowly realizing that you're probably super clear but I'm not following you on this. It got lost after the Wuffles claim and I want to know where it was heading and why.

@GJ go read the way tom consistently pushed Kami as the best lynch and compare it to his push on Dan. The former is so much more likely to be scum pushing town.

I'll admit I haven't read Kpaca on KA but I'll try and take a look at work.

Day 1 Final Votecount
Anaklusmos - 9 (tomsloger, Wuffles_II, Gentleman Johnny, Grapefruit21, vezokpiraka, KamikazeArchon, Fuwa, osieorb18, Lastwhisper)
vezokpiraka - 6 (DoTArchon, TheRealStinkyJoeTerry, Vaimes, kpaca, Anaklusmos, Rodemy)
Wuffles_II - 1 (Ganderin_dan)

Day 2 Final Votecount
vezokpiraka - 8 (Rodemy, tomsloger, Fuwa, kpaca, Lastwhisper, KamikazeArchon, Vaimes, osieorb18)
Fuwa - 4 (Grapefruit21, DoTArchon, Manasi, Gentleman Johnny)
Grapefruit21 - 2 (Wuffles_II, vezokpiraka)

Not Voting - 1 (TheRealStinkyJoeTerry)

Day 3 Final Votecount
Scarlet Rage - 7 (Manasi, DoTArchon, Vaimes, Rodemy, kpaca, Lastwhisper, tomsloger)
tomsloger - 1 (Gentleman Johnny)
Rodemy - 1 (Wuffles_II)

Not Voting - 3 (Grapefruit21, Scarlet Rage, KamikazeArchon)
That D2 VC is telling though. Really think it points the finger at one of Rod/Vaimes.

Vote: Rod

Sorry for the multi posting. This time really done.

And I'm completely out of motivation.

KA is never scum, tom was pushing him like a needed mislynch not like a buddy he was wanting credit for.

I'm no longer convinced either way on Mansi. In a quick look tom's push on Dan could easily have been a buddy push. And the gameshow banter thing could have been intentionally cryptic to sound plausible while not being convincing.

Vaimes is probably reasonably clear after all. He's not in the KA/Dota camp but he's above everyone else. I think my paranoia was coming from his push on me, but looking back I can see why he made it. I'm a complete wet paper bag this game and he's recently seen me be much better than this. So the push makes sense.

I'm reasonably convinced there are 2 scum in Rod/GJ/Mansi. If there is one outside that it's Vaimes but I'm a bit agnostic there. I think GJ is my preferred lynch today but his posting has actually been good today.

Okay rereading DV's debate with me about tom starting roughly here and continuing through to about here is not bussing. It just never is. Especially considering his later reads being heavily pushing both tom and Kpaca as scum. Given their otherwise decently town read position he had no need to go for the double bus. Pages 6-8 and Dota is always town here.

Also @DV I really struggled to play nicely with you this game but reading your ISO this post deserves applause. It's a high effort post that is taking something you directly wanted to work on after arkham and trying to apply it.

Reading through my argument with DV over tom one more time then going to read through Kpaca and tom and add my two cents. Poke me if you want to chat about anything.