THE ART OF DIPLOMACY is the luck of knowing more of your rival’s secrets than he knows of yours. Always deal from a position of power. These were Shrewd’s maxims. And Verity abided by them.
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Cantripmancer was missing in the morning but his bloody bed-sheets suggest the worst.
He was: Hest - Town Trader
Diplomacy is the velvet glove that cloaks the fist of power.
You are a wealthy trader in Bingtown. Married to Alise, you are generous with your money, allowing her to pursue her love of dragons. You have a narcissistic and jealous streak, but are highly respected in Bingtown society.
You start with 3 Vitality.
Mutually Beneficial: Night Action - You may spend 2V to learn who another target player visits that night. That player gains 1V.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
It is now Day 4. With 12 alive majority is 7. The day ends Monday the 25th at 0900 AEDT. Countdown here.
Thanks for hosting and your efforts across multiple communties! The burnout can be real and running as many games as you is completely unsustainable! Thanks for being such a pillar of the community!
Are your ears stopped with wax? Do you hear nothing I say? I asked you, not “what do you make of him?’ but “what will you make of him?’ There he stands, young, strong, and resourceful. His lines are every bit as royal as yours, for all that he was born on the wrong side of the sheets. So what will you make of him? A tool? A weapon? A comrade? An enemy?
Or will you leave him lying about, for someone else to take up and use against you?
Azrael has been condemned.
He was: Fitzchivalry - Town Royal Bastard
Fitzchivalry - Town Royal Bastard
No. No wolf wastes time on vengeance, and that is what this is. Vengeance, pure and simple. When people look most vicious, what you are seeing is not their animal side. It is the savagery that only humans can muster. When you see me loyal to my family, then you see the wolf.
You are Fitz, the bastard son of King-in-Waiting Chivalry. Your Grandfather, King Shrewd, brought you to Buckkeep and made sure your education was provided for, putting you under the care of Burrich, his stable master (and Chivalry's man), and Chade, his bastard half-brother and Royal Assassin. As a young man, you formed a close bond with the wolf Nighteyes and the King's Fool.
You start with 4 Vitality.
The Wit: 1-Shot Anytime Action - You bond with another player and are able to each send one 30-word message per phase to each other.
Untamed Skill: Passive - When you spend Vitality to create a Skill chat, the number of phases of the chat is 1 + the Vitality spent. (You still must spend at least 1V to open a chat)
Hard to Kill: Passive - The first time you would lose more than 3V, you instead lose 2V.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
It is now N3. N3 will end at 0900 Thursday the 14th AEDT. Countdown
@ZDS why did you vote Rhand? I said it in my chat but you voting Rhand right after I said I was leaning wanting to vote GJ toDay really threw me (Rhand's response rang alarm bells a bit too but I really thought GJ had to be scum here).
I don't but if we lost (and GJ's silent hammer makes me think we did) outside of you slow rolling like a crazy person it has to be GJ/Rhand from my POV.
@HR the vote on Rhand in RVS was fine because Rhand is better than busy work even in RVS. He should have been pressured over it. ZDS picked a bad example of busy work so it was only fine but the point of Rhand not moving the game was accurate.
1. How good is LastWhisper’s track record on reading GJ really?
I don't know. I think it's decent but not the immaculate record he claims. I'd weight it more than a random strong read but not a lock on it's own by any means.
3.
Quote from Grape »
Small town read on Wisp and HR. Minor scum ping on Rhand.
Go over why again?
The scum ping on Rhand was over the busy work about the mechanics. I felt that for Rhand it was slightly out of character and felt like presence for presence sake.
The town read on Wisp was for his flavor claim. He loves a claim but as scum I think he would have done something with it. As for you it was your frustration about mechanics. I think it comes across differently if you're in a scum chat.
4.
Explain the story behind this post. You never actually asked me a question.
I'd thought I'd formed this as a question and not a statement.
@HR there are a limited number of things to decide. I'm sure you could make a decent guess as to what they could be. Now angel of death in a bit more ambiguous.
I wanted you to talk about what you thought a decider did and then dropped it when I began to more firmly town read you.
5. Grape, explain the vote dance with regards to ZDS on posts #173 and #182.
I'm not sure what else there is to explain. I got spooked by Pokechu's town read on me and wanted to unvote to slow the wagon on ZDS, then their explanation placated me but I didn't want to place a second vote back on ZDS right away.
6.
Quote from Grape »
It's not about the stats though. Like yes that is the randomized distribution but we have actual results of what people think, and the people suspect me. I also don't particular care where my claim falls as long as ZDS claims before HR and you claim before me. Literally the only two bits of ordering I care about.
Why him over you?
? Do you mean Rhand or GJ? I was trying to bluff GJ since I thought he was scum and for Rhand I was trying to extend an olive branch because I didn't overly care where I claimed.
In fact, actually this goes for everyone. Make the argument for your opinions on ZDS/Rhand, ZDS/Grape, and ZDS/GJ. Explain why things make sense vs. why you think they don’t.
You can figure out Rhand vs GJ tomorrow. I'd lean towards GJ because I don't think ZDS/Rhand super make sense as partners because of RVS but that is very weak. But the voting now has a whiff of scum cross voting desperation to it (though makes less sense as I'd just signaled I was about to vote GJ).
Useless, perhaps, but nonetheless, we do speak of it. And some of us still dream of it. Just as some of us still dream of flying, and killing our own meat, and battling for mates. Some of us still dream of living. You do not want to sleep, Kalo.
You want to die.
Az (6): Highroller, Sloth, Tubba, Bur, Wisp, Tammy
Tubba (4): Cuth, BoomFrog, Bur, Wisp
Wisp (2): Highroller, Sloth
Bur (2): Az, Anak
Cuth (2): Tubba, Az
Anak (2): Vaimes, Tammy
Sloth (2): Vaimes, Cuth
Vaimes (1): BoomFrog
Highroller (1): Anak
Not Voting (3): Cantrip, Bessie, KJ
With 14 alive majority is 8.
Do d-do doooo dun dun dunnnnn!!!!
Anak (2): Sloth, Wisp
Cuthalion (1): Vaimes
Bessie (1): Cuth
Wisp (1): Bessie
Not Voting (7): Tubba, Anak, Bur, HR, BoomFrog, KJ, Tammy
With 12 alive it takes 7 votes to reach majority.
The day ends Monday the 25th at 0900 AEDT. Timer
I would have missed your vote if it did not use the "vote:" syntax because I did a ctrl+f search for that. Please revote if you want your vote to be counted.
Cantripmancer was missing in the morning but his bloody bed-sheets suggest the worst.
He was: Hest - Town Trader
You are a wealthy trader in Bingtown. Married to Alise, you are generous with your money, allowing her to pursue her love of dragons. You have a narcissistic and jealous streak, but are highly respected in Bingtown society.
You start with 3 Vitality.
Mutually Beneficial: Night Action - You may spend 2V to learn who another target player visits that night. That player gains 1V.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
It is now Day 4. With 12 alive majority is 7. The day ends Monday the 25th at 0900 AEDT. Countdown here.
Or will you leave him lying about, for someone else to take up and use against you?
Azrael has been condemned.
He was: Fitzchivalry - Town Royal Bastard
Fitzchivalry - Town Royal Bastard
No. No wolf wastes time on vengeance, and that is what this is. Vengeance, pure and simple. When people look most vicious, what you are seeing is not their animal side. It is the savagery that only humans can muster. When you see me loyal to my family, then you see the wolf.
You are Fitz, the bastard son of King-in-Waiting Chivalry. Your Grandfather, King Shrewd, brought you to Buckkeep and made sure your education was provided for, putting you under the care of Burrich, his stable master (and Chivalry's man), and Chade, his bastard half-brother and Royal Assassin. As a young man, you formed a close bond with the wolf Nighteyes and the King's Fool.
You start with 4 Vitality.
The Wit: 1-Shot Anytime Action - You bond with another player and are able to each send one 30-word message per phase to each other.
Untamed Skill: Passive - When you spend Vitality to create a Skill chat, the number of phases of the chat is 1 + the Vitality spent. (You still must spend at least 1V to open a chat)
Hard to Kill: Passive - The first time you would lose more than 3V, you instead lose 2V.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
It is now N3. N3 will end at 0900 Thursday the 14th AEDT. Countdown
Ten times dead was very dead indeed.
Az (8): Highroller, Sloth, Bur, Bessie, Wisp, KJ, Vaimes, Tammy
Tubba (4): Cuth, Bur, Wisp, KJ
Wisp (3): Highroller, BoomFrog , Az
Anak (3): Bessie, Sloth, Tammy
Cuth (2): Az, BoomFrog
Bur (1): Anak
Sloth (1): Cuth
Highroller (1): Anak
BoomFrog (1): Vaimes
Not Voting (2): Cantrip, Tubba
That is majority. Az has been condemned. Please stop posting while I post the end of day.
Az (6): Highroller, Sloth, Bur, Bessie, Wisp, KJ
Tubba (4): Cuth, Bur, Wisp, KJ
Wisp (2): Highroller, BoomFrog
Bur (2): Az, Anak
Cuth (2): Az, BoomFrog
Anak (2): Bessie, Sloth
Sloth (1): Cuth
Highroller (1): Anak
Not Voting (3): Cantrip, Tubba, Vaimes
With 14 alive majority is 8.
Deadline for Day 3 ending is 0900 AEDT on the 12th. This is 5:00 pm EST on the 11th. This is in just over 2 hours.
Please message me if there are any errors. I did this VC on my phone and am not sure it's correct.
I don't but if we lost (and GJ's silent hammer makes me think we did) outside of you slow rolling like a crazy person it has to be GJ/Rhand from my POV.
@HR the vote on Rhand in RVS was fine because Rhand is better than busy work even in RVS. He should have been pressured over it. ZDS picked a bad example of busy work so it was only fine but the point of Rhand not moving the game was accurate.
I don't know. I think it's decent but not the immaculate record he claims. I'd weight it more than a random strong read but not a lock on it's own by any means.
The scum ping on Rhand was over the busy work about the mechanics. I felt that for Rhand it was slightly out of character and felt like presence for presence sake.
The town read on Wisp was for his flavor claim. He loves a claim but as scum I think he would have done something with it. As for you it was your frustration about mechanics. I think it comes across differently if you're in a scum chat.
I'd thought I'd formed this as a question and not a statement.
I wanted you to talk about what you thought a decider did and then dropped it when I began to more firmly town read you.
I'm not sure what else there is to explain. I got spooked by Pokechu's town read on me and wanted to unvote to slow the wagon on ZDS, then their explanation placated me but I didn't want to place a second vote back on ZDS right away.
? Do you mean Rhand or GJ? I was trying to bluff GJ since I thought he was scum and for Rhand I was trying to extend an olive branch because I didn't overly care where I claimed.
You can figure out Rhand vs GJ tomorrow. I'd lean towards GJ because I don't think ZDS/Rhand super make sense as partners because of RVS but that is very weak. But the voting now has a whiff of scum cross voting desperation to it (though makes less sense as I'd just signaled I was about to vote GJ).
You want to die.
Az (6): Highroller, Sloth, Tubba, Bur, Wisp, Tammy
Tubba (4): Cuth, BoomFrog, Bur, Wisp
Wisp (2): Highroller, Sloth
Bur (2): Az, Anak
Cuth (2): Tubba, Az
Anak (2): Vaimes, Tammy
Sloth (2): Vaimes, Cuth
Vaimes (1): BoomFrog
Highroller (1): Anak
Not Voting (3): Cantrip, Bessie, KJ
With 14 alive majority is 8.
Deadline for Day 3 ending is 0900 AEDT on the 12th. This is 5:00 pm EST on the 11th. This is in just over 24 hours.
FOS: ZDS