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  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    If you are running a full 12+ eldrazi then maybe boreal but even then I have a hard time justifying it over hierarch or maybe also birds. Casting your colored spells on time is pretty huge.

    My only experience with vraska is in arena and she's fine but rarely great. She does help a lot in the very late game. Her plus is brutal
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    I went 3-1 at FNM with my normal list. My assassin's trophies were in the mail I just got them Frown SO I will at least get to test them out this friday. I lost to sultai in R1 which cut me outa top 4 contention Frown Here I wish I had trophy as I was staring down a kalitas with a cast down in hand...I beat mardu pyro, 8 rack and something else I forget. Here's my new list, I only have 3 trophy currently. I'm undecided if 4 trophy is better over a pulse. probably?



    another possible version of this list with no oaths although I've been enjoying them. more consistent I guess but can and will suffer a little more to top decks. SB still up for debates. My meta has a lot of midrange in it but smatters of a bunch of other things. Elves seems to be on the uptick.



    One last version with mana dorks. I'm not sure I would play this version as the discard has been pretty important but if I'm expecting more midrangy matchups I would probably want the dorks over discard.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Well forgot to post last few weeks for my testing at FNM. No changes except added a torpor orb in the SB to help with humans and spirits. Sadly, spirits feels like an abysmal matchup. I played a whole bunch of games vs bant and UW spirits and lost every single one but 1. I'll get to this in a bit. I went 3-2 then 2-3 and went 3-2 again on friday. I lost to elves, humans x2, spirits x3 and kci. Every one of my losses except to elves (chained multiple shaman of the packs every game)and kci were due to fliers and not even close. I have no idea how to even stop fliers to be honest. I think trophy will help a little but then again not really as decay is basically the same thing but better. Any tips on how to better manage fliers that double as counters I am all ears. Perhaps I need a bontu's or something but I feel like that's just bad. Humans at least I can fight and have proven that but jeez the turns they just slam t2 rider into more of them just kills me every time.

    Kci still feels fightable but that has also proven to basically feel unwinnable for me. My opponents just always gets it no matter what I do to them. They either just always find a claim and explosives always. Not sure GB has the tools to reliably beat them. I know I can do more, like have more surgicals but still. Leyline I'm sure would help a bit but I'm know it's not enough but maybe it's better than surgical. The issue is surgical also works well with field and trophy...
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    I'm gonna test 1 vraska. I would only want her for late game. My meta has a ton of midrange and other gbx or control decks and there's plenty of times I just don't draw relevant things. My biggest problem with vraska is she doesn't pressure opponents. Outside that, she has relevant removal and can usually draw a card. I'll start with in the main but most likely a SB card. Even then maybe Ob is better but we shall see. I guess it depends how relevant abrupt decay is in the meta. Being able to plus on oath, clues and lands is pretty cute.

    On the flip side my worst matchups are the more aggro matches and fliers. I get wrecked by fliers a lot.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    I think Pelt Collector could be a serious consideration for this deck depending on the build. With mine for instance, I can't poop out a bunch of dudes and make him huge very quickly but every one of our guys are huge. It's possible that it being a bad top deck is enough to not include it but I will test a couple. Things could go either way with it.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    I would agree. Without tireless trackers or something to give you enough fodder, vraska doesn't seem worth it. I would love to try her as a 1 of but I'm not confident in what she does. It's sad I was super hoping for a playable GB or G or B walker but I'm not sure she is the one. Perhaps in other GB decks but this one doesn't have the tools to make the best use of her.

    Perhaps out of the SB for really long control or midrange matchups. I can see her being relevant where a TKS would be bad.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    depending on your build it's still worth playing 2. The card is just so good regardless if it's just a bad doom blade vs many decks. The ones where it kills a teferi or other 4cmc thing is worth it. Being able to catch manlands and artifacts and enchantments gives us a good bump g1 vs some of our tougher matches. I don't think the card is a 4 of tho.

    depending how the meta shakes out tho, giving them a land may not matter when we have smashers and the like. The bigger issue is for combo decks and things like burn or aggro. But these probably free up the fulminator mages in the SB for other things.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    wow that new assassin's trophy is insane. That will change things in my list for sure. What exactly to cut I'm not sure. I know probably decay and cast down can immediately go. possibly a collective brutality. I feel like I want 3 of these. 3 of these and 3 field of ruin seems awesome. It's possible I want 4 fields and 3 trophies. Hmm.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Forgot my updates for past 2 FNMs. I went an unspectacular 3-2 in both. I guess that proves it's a modern deck because that's what all modern decks score.

    I played poorly in a couple of matches 100% so I think should I have been a better player they would have gone differently. I lost to 2 deskai tempo/control decks. I had wonderful starts from both and then I just, I dunno, stopped drawing stuff and petered out. I'm not going to assume the UWx decks are easy. Maybe I need a choke or cavern or something in the SB...just not sure on another good SB card for control. Pithing needle could help, it's a good catch all too. I also lost to elves due to not playing a land t2 for some reason, smh. I also lost to UW spirits. That also seems like a hard matchup. It's beatable but every guy having evasion is what makes it so hard. Not sure what to do for that deck.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on Abzan / The Rock
    I'm sure it is being played. I think the problem is GBx is not particularly well positioned at the moment. if the wind blows in one direction you will never know the deck was even at an event but if the wind blows the other way it can top 8. /shrug
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on Abzan / The Rock
    I beat UW control in the quarters of the PTQ today. Was a close but long match as expected. It is certainly tough matchup but he got kinda land screwed so I guess that was good for me g3 and my spells lined up well. I think I played decently enough. I then spoiled it by making a total BONEHEAD play in g3 of semis vs humans. Board was as follows: he has 2 buglers in play with a vial on 3 and I play a TKS with yahenni's expertise in hand. He reveals 2 reflector mages, mantis rider and a hostage taker. I stupidly take the mantis rider as that card is his best card vs me. Turns out I totally miss assessed hostage taker like an idiot and forgot that when he casts it He thoughtseizes me. Well he ticks up to 4 plays taker and casts my tks taking my yahennis. I'm totally boned from here outside a damnation. I'm disappointed in myself for doing that, it was totally dumb but I learned the hard way. oh well what can you do. It also happened that he drew all of this 3 toughness guys as I had flaying tendrils in hand.

    Overall the deck performed well as it has been over the last year of me playing it. Dodging the blood moon matches (there were very few) this deck is a house. Had I played better I know I would have ended up winning especially considering I would be playing counters company in the finals. Still I went 5-1-1 over all so I have no complaints and I hope I gave this variant a little exposure.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    No streaming of it. I beat UW control in the quarters. Was a close but long match as expected. It is certainly tough matchup but he got kinda land screwed so I guess that was good for me g3 and my spells lined up well. I think I played decently enough. I then spoiled it by making a total BONEHEAD play in g3 of semis vs humans. Board was as follows: he has 2 buglers in play with a vial on 3 and I play a TKS with yahenni's expertise in hand. He reveals 2 reflector mages, mantis rider and a hostage taker. I stupidly take the mantis rider as that card is his best card vs me. Turns out I totally miss assessed hostage taker like an idiot and forgot that when he casts it He thoughtseizes me. Well he ticks up to 4 plays taker and casts my tks taking my yahennis. I'm totally boned from here outside a damnation. I'm disappointed in myself for doing that, it was totally dumb but I learned the hard way. oh well what can you do.

    I have no interest in standard but given the PTQ top 8 was at the same time as the GP if the players didn't finish before r3 they get an auto game loss. How effed up is that. Didn't matter to me tho but it's still pretty stupid. Overall the deck performed well. Dodging the blood moon matches (there were very few) this deck is a house. Had I played better I know I would have ended up winning. Still I went 5-1-1 over all so I have no complaints I hope I gave a little exposure to it.

    4 discard has been fine. Not much to say about them. I would like another but to be honest I'm not sure another discard is better than anything else in my list. They also play a little weird with TKS as if I have too much TKS is actively medium. He's basically my discard 8-10 and brutality effectively filling in where needed.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on Abzan / The Rock
    Played in my first real deal PTQ in many many years at GP Providence. Had 128 people. Here's my report:


    r1: Humans
    g1 he flooded some and I was able to capitalize and he was too far behind to come back. g2 was close but he ripped a second mantis rider to finish me off. g3 was a slaughter. bunch of removal into a big scooze and tracker then a yahenni's to wipe his board and net me a goyf.
    1-0

    r2 martyr proc
    2 games and both were easily won. He has tiny dudes and a bunch of spells which were all nabbed by discard and then steamrolled over. I haven't played against this much but it felt very good for me.
    2-0

    r3 G tron
    g1 I was able to field of Ruin him off tron long enough to have a smasher into a second smasher get me there. g2 I should have lost honestly he bricked pretty hard for a while but when he did draw stuff I had answers for them and was able to scrape it out in the end. He had tron for basically the entire game. Goyf and eldrazi were MVP as was FoR. I had to battle through a wurmcoil, karn and 2 Oblivion stones.
    3-0

    r4 hollow one
    g1 I have a couple discard and his hand is pure garbage with 2 bloodghast and something else. He rips faithless looting binning both, plays a land plus cycles wraith and plays a hollow boi. Just like that my hand of discard and stuff was completely garbage and I lose. He only saw 2 of my lands so he just assumed I was straight GB, obviously. g2 I am on the eldrazi plan and just straight steam roll him. He was obviously not expecting that. g3 he has the adept but I have removal after he tries to slam in for like 8 with it. I push it and he plays a hollow one which I untap and play a 5/6 goyf. He plays tasigur making my dude a 1/2 but I have a rec sage for the hollow boi and then a pulse for tasigur. From there it was easy.
    4-0

    r5: counters company
    I was in 8th and there was 9 undefeated UGH. I beat him down g1 with a bunch of removal and into huge goyf and TKS. I then play some discard into smasher and that was that. From here the other undefeated player lost to so we were in the clear to ID into top 8! I think this match is pretty good for me especially being up a game going into game 2. I was confident I could have gone 5-0.

    We play top 8 tomorrow 9am at GP Providence Smile 3 more matches and it's off to the pro tour, imagine that! The meta here was seriously like 50% humans. There was an absurd amount, it was really stupid. Outside of that it was really diverse as one would expect. I would say UWx was the next most represented deck but no where near the numbers of humans.
    Posted in: Midrange
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    Played in my first real deal PTQ in many many years at GP Providence. Had 128 people. Here's my report:


    r1: Humans
    g1 he flooded some and I was able to capitalize and he was too far behind to come back. g2 was close but he ripped a second mantis rider to finish me off. g3 was a slaughter. bunch of removal into a big scooze and tracker then a yahenni's to wipe his board and net me a goyf.
    1-0

    r2 martyr proc
    2 games and both were easily won. He has tiny dudes and a bunch of spells which were all nabbed by discard and then steamrolled over. I haven't played against this much but it felt very good for me.
    2-0

    r3 G tron
    g1 I was able to field of Ruin him off tron long enough to have a smasher into a second smasher get me there. g2 I should have lost honestly he bricked pretty hard for a while but when he did draw stuff I had answers for them and was able to scrape it out in the end. He had tron for basically the entire game. Goyf and eldrazi were MVP as was FoR. I had to battle through a wurmcoil, karn and 2 Oblivion stones.
    3-0

    r4 hollow one
    g1 I have a couple discard and his hand is pure garbage with 2 bloodghast and something else. He rips faithless looting binning both, plays a land plus cycles wraith and plays a hollow boi. Just like that my hand of discard and stuff was completely garbage and I lose. He only saw 2 of my lands so he just assumed I was straight GB, obviously. g2 I am on the eldrazi plan and just straight steam roll him. He was obviously not expecting that. g3 he has the adept but I have removal after he tries to slam in for like 8 with it. I push it and he plays a hollow one which I untap and play a 5/6 goyf. He plays tasigur making my dude a 1/2 but I have a rec sage for the hollow boi and then a pulse for tasigur. From there it was easy.
    4-0

    r5: counters company
    I was in 8th and there was 9 undefeated UGH. I beat him down g1 with a bunch of removal and into huge goyf and TKS. I then play some discard into smasher and that was that. From here the other undefeated player lost to so we were in the clear to ID into top 8! I think this match is pretty good for me especially being up a game going into game 2. I was confident I could have gone 5-0.

    We play top 8 tomorrow 9am at GP Providence Smile 3 more matches and it's off to the pro tour, imagine that! The meta here was seriously like 50% humans. There was an absurd amount, it was really stupid. Outside of that it was really diverse as one would expect. I would say UWx was the next most represented deck but no where near the numbers of humans.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on BG Eldrazi Midrange
    @D90Dennis14 if you are playing green to play ancient stirrings black adds nothing to the archetype. It's sad but any good black cards make stirrings bad. Which is why I'm playing Oath of Nissa, it digs less but proves WAY more advantages all of which are extremely relevant. I'm pretty sure a GB dedicated eldrazi deck just can't exist and be good.

    @Deadkitten -1 goyf is a meta call and I'm glad I made it but it's not a permanent thing I don't think. If anything I'll cut a tracker for another goyf but my meta has a lot of decks that either I NEED the gy hate or they don't fill their gy at all or goyf is a consistent 2/3. Goyf is always great late game so I always want to see at least one. Tracker I dare say is one of the best cards ever printed. She's different than goyf though and provides a much needed advantage. Is she better? I dunno. I will never cut smasher, ever, he is always the best card in my deck.

    My philosophy on this deck having played it consistently for over a year is that I want to be playing GB archetype and not trying to push eldrazi on an archetype that doesn't really support it. The GB archetype is proven and is very strong and I love playing it. My manabase is currently solid, not overly painful and always lets me cast my cards. What my version adds over typical GB is larger top end while still doing the things GB wants to be doing. The line of discard into threat/removal or discard on legs into unanswerable smusher has won me a lot of games.

    I miss reshaper a lot I'm not gonna lie to you but reshaper only gets value when he dies and if he dies but also means you need to have a manabase that can support him. A GBC manabase is sketchy as hell and or very painful. If the board gets stalled tracker turns flooding into cards, gets bigger doing nothing and provides revolt randomly while drawing a card. The biggest issue of tracker vs reshaper is speed. There are certainly some matches where reshaper is just better where I need the speed. If I can find a way to play reshapers and trackers together sign me up for that.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
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