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  • posted a message on Mono-W/Wx Aggro
    Quote from hoser2 »
    This Boros list made the Monday 5-0 dump:
    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1650149#paper

    It leans midrange and I thought it could grind and take a Chainwhirler and keep on trucking. I tweaked (worsened) it a bit to match my existing Arena collection and am just 1-2 on ranked Bo3. Early days, but it seems to lack the explosiveness of the 'whirler-be-damned version I have been grinding on ranked Bo1.


    tbh that list looks even more soft to chainwhirler with all the x/1s.

    I feel like there is a consensus that mono red is a bad MU for this archetype, but I've found it to be the opposite. Either my Sb strategy is better or I'm just lucky, who knows.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on Mono-W/Wx Aggro
    I tried different splashes but like mono white the best. I don't think Deputy is particularly strong outside of the mirror match. Counterspells also seem like a trap to me. Ajani is nuts in many post board games. I don't care if I flood on them from time to time, I'm sick of seeing 0 in the games I need them.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on [Primer] Blue Moon: UR Blood Moon/Shackles Control
    Played the deck on stream too: https://youtu.be/lH1YJUmqafc
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Primer] Blue Moon: UR Blood Moon/Shackles Control
    just kidding, this is my current list:
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on Grixis Control
    Back to grixis for now:
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Primer] Blue Moon: UR Blood Moon/Shackles Control
    I've also found Blood Moons to be worse and worse. After UW fell off the map it has been very hard to justify the plan.

    However, I also like Things. I'm currently experimenting with a fair grixis control list that plays four Things, and while probably underpowered, the deck at least feels better than other options I've tried in the past. Post belongs to grixis control thread but w/e
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on Mono-W/Wx Aggro
    Quote from hoser2 »
    This list 8-0ed the Standard MOCS on 11/24/18:
    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1486563#paper


    You can have a look at how the matches went for me: https://youtu.be/OWcqsixiRno

    Not playing Benalish Marshal might be insane, but I can't help my biases. The mono white version is insanely advantaged in the mirror.
    Posted in: Proven (Standard)
  • posted a message on [Primer] Blue Moon: UR Blood Moon/Shackles Control
    Quote from multikiosken »
    I'm not sure I follow the Drake vs TiTi arguments.

    TiTi improves the bad matchups, Drake improves the already good matchups?

    If that premise holds, wouldn't we run TiTi main, and then have cards like Drake, Keranos etc. in the board?


    In my opinion the fair MUs are the difficult ones. I'm referring to Jund, BG etc. Against decks like Humans and Spirits it's not so clear cut, but I'd say Thing is more crucial there. Against UWx control whichever threat you run feels inconsequential, but having too many expensive spells would be a disaster. (EDIT: then there's burn - a difficult MU, but having Things makes a huge difference IMO. If you see Hardened Scales as a fair deck, then that's one more MU where Thing takes the cake.)

    Whether you agree or disagree, I don't see Drake being a SB card. Keranos is also an overcosted clunker IMO. To be frank, I find the MUs BGx completely unsalvagable, and would have my focus on other decks. Modern is littered with linear aggressive decks anyway, so thinking about how to beat the fair decks is not that relevant.
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Primer] Blue Moon: UR Blood Moon/Shackles Control
    I agree Drake is real, and I'm not planning on cutting it. I decided to cut 2nd Moon from the main to allow myself to play with two Drakes and three Things, for now. I found it that the ability to bounce the opponent's board is very valuable because you're getting a strong unique effect for a low opportunity cost. Instead of playing more wraths like Anger to help against Dredge and Scales, or more spot removal to deal with Sai, you can just use Thing. This is good because at least I'm starved for additional SB slots.

    Izzet Arclight might be a better Thing deck, and more competitive deck overall, but that's besides the point.

    EDIT: I think overall it boils down to tailoring your threat suite against the perceived metagame. Drake is a lot better against fair decks, Thing is better against the fastest linear decks like Burn, Dredge, Scales etc. I'm feeling ok with the split atm.
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on Grixis Control
    I've been off grixis for a short while now, but I messed around with Nicol Bolas and afterwards Crackling Drake a bit.

    I think both cards are great additions, and Drake is definitely the more powerful card. The most crucial element of these cards is not the card advantage they give, but the fact they are flyers with 4 toughness - that's a huge deal. Nicol Bolas was kind of awkward though, because so many modern decks don't even mind discarding cards and operate well with very few resources. Against decks like Humans I usually was able to cast Bolas only after they had already emptied their hand! For these reasons Drake's ETB gets the nod from me. Also, Drake is actually a brutal clock, whereas the flip ability of Bolas should never ever come up in a competitive modern game.
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Primer] Blue Moon: UR Blood Moon/Shackles Control
    Just board Molten Rain, it goes well with our Surgicals too.

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    This is my current list:



    Drake has been fantastic in most MUs, but the utility Thing gives us is too important. The ability to bounce opponents' creatures is very valuable against various archetypes, even stuff like KCI where opponents will board in Sai which can be tough to deal with efficiently. I might play a second drake if I find a decent cut.
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Primer] Blue Moon: UR Blood Moon/Shackles Control
    If the modern gp isn't enough to satisfy you, I'm streaming the modern challenge, currently 3-1: https://www.twitch.tv/tiemuuuu
    I'll later upload a recording to youtube where the time between rounds will be cut.

    EDIT: https://youtu.be/4Rg9tEmDloA
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Primer] Blue Moon: UR Blood Moon/Shackles Control
    video from yesterday's stream is up. I think the matches were pretty good overall; I made some mistakes and nice plays as well. I would definitely suggest checking out the g2 against BW: https://youtu.be/7iVkycs3_To?t=5626
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Primer] Blue Moon: UR Blood Moon/Shackles Control
    Quote from quasar890 »
    Good Job! I also wondered if opts are better than Thought Scour, but i think the synergy with Thought Scour is to good to drop. Hieroglyphic Illumination is a nice option. I also thought about the new Jumpstart Draw 2, since you can mill it with Thought Scour, but its probably to weak.

    Could you maybe stream some leagues with the deck and upload it on youtube? Would like to see you playing this deck.


    I'm mostly concerned about not having enough fuel for Harvest Pyre, but haven't felt like I'd need more closing speed with the Drakes. We end up having plenty of instants and sorceries the yard anyway. Small sample size though.

    I'll definitely upload some gameplay soon.
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Primer] Blue Moon: UR Blood Moon/Shackles Control
    played a couple more leagues. Went 3-2, losing to two dredge decks, and then won my second trophy! I added more efficient grave hate to board and experiment with Illuminations.
    Posted in: Control
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