There were a few chances to catch me. I'm not sure if people weren't paying enough attention, or if I'm good at distraction from weaknesses. My list of mistakes:
-overreactin to my partner's death
-making myself look scummy day 2 to try and draw out a cop that didn't exist
-makin a claim from a non-vampire show
-starting the cult chatter (although this and the cop one were calculated risks and not necessarily mistakes)
-scum-slipping a couple of times late-game
-allowing my out of game issues to interfere with my gameplay and tipping off poggy
Otherwise I feel like I played very well for 90% of the game, distracted everyone effectively, and stayed mostly townie.
I think Wuffles made the right call, but it was really awkward for me. In the meantime though, his mistake turned out to be my chance to win.
I enjoyed the set-up, although putting two huge polarizing roles in the game that are needed to counter each other made the game fairly swingy. As criticism, I would strongly encourage Wuffles to be more careful writing roles in the future. I know that at least myself, Foxlet, and Gricky were all confused by our roles and managed to misunderstand them.
On that note, I want to apologize to Foxlet. As the SK I abused her mod miscommunication to confuse her and get her lynched. As a player experiencing the same thing, I had sympathy. It is entirely probably that Foxlet had an ambiguously worded win condition, which is the technicality I abused to cause her death.
Artifice wasn't on my team. Only tordeck was. I wanted to roleblock Artifice and claim town credit for role locking a SK. When the roles switched though, it became a kill. Kind of a blow out.
I also do agree that getting the uber-mega power is the only way I could have won with Artfice and tordeck both dead. Otherwise Void would haw just found me in LyLo if not sooner.
I also enjoy all of the people chiming in that they found me then died. That was intentional. I was killing people who were on to me.
That's not the only snafu. At first I thought my ability didn work against watchers, so I asked Wuffles. He said I could be invisible to Watchers but couldn't frame them. Then Iso tried to take over the game (after I had targeted Gricky that Day) and Iso reeled it that my ability would fail against a Watcher. (which would make me immediately lose, because Void would then see me)
I freaked out and starte messaging Wuffles. When Wuffles got back, he asked me what framed result I wanted to give to you. I was like "lulwut? Ok, you are the boss. Totally framing Reya now"
It was kind of upsetting though to be unable to plan anything with my abilities being messed with and re-ruled all game. I literally felt like this game was me vs the mods instea of me vs the town.
I agree that my ability was completely overpowered. However, Voids role was insanely stron too. If I hadn't know who to mess with because of you guys all claiming, I would have lost the game by simple process of elimination. Voids role basically allowed him to create two bulletproof confirmed townsfolk, and my only chance to win at that point was by making you lynch each other.
So basically, I'm saying that I think my role and Void's role balanced way other out and I only came out ahead because Void claiming (and basically claiming who he targeted) gave me enough information to turn his ability against the town.
Btw, godfather doesn't begin to describe this role. As I eventually figured out, I was a godfather+ninja+framer. The whole void an tray fiasco was me changing voids results.
I also did my best not to lie, but I have no idea how to get past mass claim time without lying. After that, I let myself go in the last LyLo phase and lied my ass off.
Good game everyone. Now I'm safe to explain what happened. Basically, tordeck was NOT darla the sultry succubus. I started the game as her. Wuffles accidentally killed me instead of tordeck in the lynch scene on Night 1. That's why I lost my roleblock, because Wuffles killed my role. Through the Day phase we talked it out, and to try to salvage the game I inherited tordek's role and became him.
Tordeck and I were actually teammates. SKs that were aligned and could talk. After his untimely death, I used our quick topic as my personal journal and theory thread.
Digi has lurked for most of the game and made excuses for his votes instead of owning them.
I'll admit that I've made mistakes, but I did what I thought was best and what I thought would make us win. After the game I'll explain what happened with Wuffles. All I can say for myself is that I have done my best and that even though this is my last game on MTGS, at least for a while, that I still feel I've learned from it and enjoyed playing.
I think that you and I were selected to be last, JD, because we are both basically vanilla and have both shown inclinations towards thinking each other were scum at various points. It makes sense for the SK to keep two vanillas who want to lynch other like Digi has done. Whatever you pick JD, this was still a good game and we still got to have a lot of fun.
JD is confirmed as not SK as I suspected. That makes Digi the SK. The naked vote and continual Refusal to even bother to play almost makes this dappointing though. Good job lurkin this far Digi, but we have found the SK now. Since JD is confirmed town, there is no reason to hold my vote.
Vote Digi
It's in your hands now JD. Let me know how I can help.
I can't do my normal big quote response thing because I'm posting from my phone. I will attempt to reply in order though.
-starting at the vanillifier part, all I can say is that I am being completely honest about being a role locker and then losing it. I literally don't know what to say otherwise, because explaining the circumstances breaks the game. Wuffles screwed up, and to be perfectly honest, the game probably should have ended Day 1 in a stalemate instead of continuing to play with this mess.
-my roleblock failed because my power was removed before it fired. I assume that artifice didn't and/or couldn't shoot. At least not that phase.
-foxlet played like scum all game. She played against her win condition, did illogical things, lied, failed to get the necessary information to play her role from Wuffles, and posted scummy in general. I would have probably voted her even without the cult fears. I also stand by my theory that refusing to vote is anti-town.
-the "forced" post is partly because I was still upset from the recent activities and by seeing a role locker who wasn't me flip. How often do you see two in a mini? Bloody never. Why the hell would I counter claim a confirmed player anyway? That's stupid regardless. In fact, I would have lied just to avoid the counter claiming confusion if I wasn't following my rule. (since I was vanilla at that point anyway, I probably should have just claimed vanilla)
-my behavior changed because I lost my role. It's that simple. Since you obviously read cyberpunk, you can easily see there the marked change in my behavior after my ability was used up. I suddenly dropped all pretense of defense and starte aggressively attacking whoever I though was scum. Same concept except that I woul like to think in a better scum hunter now.
-yes, because asking someone at L-2 to claim before they get hammered, is fishing. Doubly so when I thought they were breadcrumbing cop and I wanted to try and avoid mislynching a stubborn cop.
-it's just good logic to lynch a suspicious vig late-game when you are SK hunting. That's the easiest way for an SK to hide. The other two were my primary scumspects.
-I was joking when I moved my vote. You are reading too much into it. I just forgot after moving it and didn't think it was a serious discussion point. Remind me not to make jokes outside RVS next time.
-I did change my mind on whether Digi should claim. After further consideration, it seemed like it woul be better to keep more info hidden there.
-I advocated hammering the non-compliant and anti-town poggydude, but then clarified that we should inish discussion first. It's merely a consideration f timing that I realized was unclear in my first post.
I'm tired, I'll probably respond more tomorrow. I would present a case against Digi, but he has basically lurked through this entire game. He made 0 impact and always stayed in the background.
But like I said, talk more tomorrow. I am starting to feel more confident about this. I think we can solve the game, especially if Digi contributes.
After rereading, JD seems more and more town all the time. His indignation feels genuine at multiple points, and he just seems like he is playing to the towns win condition.
Digi gave me no such vibes. His point system is a perfect scum cover up to generate artificial opinions instead of gut reactions.
-overreactin to my partner's death
-making myself look scummy day 2 to try and draw out a cop that didn't exist
-makin a claim from a non-vampire show
-starting the cult chatter (although this and the cop one were calculated risks and not necessarily mistakes)
-scum-slipping a couple of times late-game
-allowing my out of game issues to interfere with my gameplay and tipping off poggy
Otherwise I feel like I played very well for 90% of the game, distracted everyone effectively, and stayed mostly townie.
I enjoyed the set-up, although putting two huge polarizing roles in the game that are needed to counter each other made the game fairly swingy. As criticism, I would strongly encourage Wuffles to be more careful writing roles in the future. I know that at least myself, Foxlet, and Gricky were all confused by our roles and managed to misunderstand them.
I also do agree that getting the uber-mega power is the only way I could have won with Artfice and tordeck both dead. Otherwise Void would haw just found me in LyLo if not sooner.
I also enjoy all of the people chiming in that they found me then died. That was intentional. I was killing people who were on to me.
I freaked out and starte messaging Wuffles. When Wuffles got back, he asked me what framed result I wanted to give to you. I was like "lulwut? Ok, you are the boss. Totally framing Reya now"
It was kind of upsetting though to be unable to plan anything with my abilities being messed with and re-ruled all game. I literally felt like this game was me vs the mods instea of me vs the town.
So basically, I'm saying that I think my role and Void's role balanced way other out and I only came out ahead because Void claiming (and basically claiming who he targeted) gave me enough information to turn his ability against the town.
I also did my best not to lie, but I have no idea how to get past mass claim time without lying. After that, I let myself go in the last LyLo phase and lied my ass off.
Tordeck and I were actually teammates. SKs that were aligned and could talk. After his untimely death, I used our quick topic as my personal journal and theory thread.
Time for a write up.
I'll admit that I've made mistakes, but I did what I thought was best and what I thought would make us win. After the game I'll explain what happened with Wuffles. All I can say for myself is that I have done my best and that even though this is my last game on MTGS, at least for a while, that I still feel I've learned from it and enjoyed playing.
I think that you and I were selected to be last, JD, because we are both basically vanilla and have both shown inclinations towards thinking each other were scum at various points. It makes sense for the SK to keep two vanillas who want to lynch other like Digi has done. Whatever you pick JD, this was still a good game and we still got to have a lot of fun.
Vote Digi
It's in your hands now JD. Let me know how I can help.
-starting at the vanillifier part, all I can say is that I am being completely honest about being a role locker and then losing it. I literally don't know what to say otherwise, because explaining the circumstances breaks the game. Wuffles screwed up, and to be perfectly honest, the game probably should have ended Day 1 in a stalemate instead of continuing to play with this mess.
-my roleblock failed because my power was removed before it fired. I assume that artifice didn't and/or couldn't shoot. At least not that phase.
-foxlet played like scum all game. She played against her win condition, did illogical things, lied, failed to get the necessary information to play her role from Wuffles, and posted scummy in general. I would have probably voted her even without the cult fears. I also stand by my theory that refusing to vote is anti-town.
-the "forced" post is partly because I was still upset from the recent activities and by seeing a role locker who wasn't me flip. How often do you see two in a mini? Bloody never. Why the hell would I counter claim a confirmed player anyway? That's stupid regardless. In fact, I would have lied just to avoid the counter claiming confusion if I wasn't following my rule. (since I was vanilla at that point anyway, I probably should have just claimed vanilla)
-my behavior changed because I lost my role. It's that simple. Since you obviously read cyberpunk, you can easily see there the marked change in my behavior after my ability was used up. I suddenly dropped all pretense of defense and starte aggressively attacking whoever I though was scum. Same concept except that I woul like to think in a better scum hunter now.
-yes, because asking someone at L-2 to claim before they get hammered, is fishing. Doubly so when I thought they were breadcrumbing cop and I wanted to try and avoid mislynching a stubborn cop.
-it's just good logic to lynch a suspicious vig late-game when you are SK hunting. That's the easiest way for an SK to hide. The other two were my primary scumspects.
-I was joking when I moved my vote. You are reading too much into it. I just forgot after moving it and didn't think it was a serious discussion point. Remind me not to make jokes outside RVS next time.
-I did change my mind on whether Digi should claim. After further consideration, it seemed like it woul be better to keep more info hidden there.
-I advocated hammering the non-compliant and anti-town poggydude, but then clarified that we should inish discussion first. It's merely a consideration f timing that I realized was unclear in my first post.
I'm tired, I'll probably respond more tomorrow. I would present a case against Digi, but he has basically lurked through this entire game. He made 0 impact and always stayed in the background.
But like I said, talk more tomorrow. I am starting to feel more confident about this. I think we can solve the game, especially if Digi contributes.
Digi gave me no such vibes. His point system is a perfect scum cover up to generate artificial opinions instead of gut reactions.