I'm not looking to hear about the overused tribes in EDH (... and Vampires)
Quote from CarstenHaeseOriginally Posted by dgschess
Would it be possible for a Head Judge or Tournament Organizer to run FNM that runs 20 rounds, even if there is only 8 players in attendance, as a way to abuse the new Planeswalker Points rating system?Unless the tournament has a fact sheet by Wizards stating otherwise, there is no restriction on the number of rounds except that a tournament of individual players must have at least 3 rounds in order to be sanctioned. I've never sanctioned FNM, so I don't know whether there's a fact sheet for FNM that specifies other requirements.
However, even if there isn't anything actually written prohibiting you from running a 20 round FNM, I imagine that a TO that uploads a single-day 20-round tournament would draw unpleasant attention from somebody at Wizards.
Originally Posted by dgschess
Would it be possible for a Head Judge or Tournament Organizer to run FNM that runs 20 rounds, even if there is only 8 players in attendance, as a way to abuse the new Planeswalker Points rating system?
Quote from audioxYes, they are on a similar power level, but in streamlined decks, it gives an extremely unfair advantage to the people that can afford moxes, and in non-streamlined decks it still creates negative tension due to jealousy. And that's the problem. It doesn't matter what else is in your deck, because just the sight of a Mox causes a negative reaction. With Sol Ring, the psychological impact is minimal. Most people will think, "What a lucky draw," and deal with it. But with Moxes, most people wil go, "That's not fair. I can never afford cards like that." That is overall an unhealthy thing for the format, so it's better just to ban them due to the negative stigma attached.
If the people you play against lack the maturity to handle losses, then they should probably pick up another game to play, like Candyland.
But in a group of strangers, it is disparaging to see a guy play a 5c goodstuff deck worth thousands of dollars with the full mox suite while everyone else can only afford Sol Ring.
Quote from audioxIf you have read the entire thread, you would know that this has already been addressed.
Moxes are banned because they are too expensive and should go in every deck, creating an unfair barrier to entry for most players, not because they are too overpowered. If they had continued to be printed past Unlimited and were readily available, you can bet they would be legal in EDH.
Basically, if moxes were legal, the mental process of the new player would go like this, "****! I need moxes to play this format!"
Whereas without them, they go, "Cool! I get to play Sol Ring in this format!"
Quote from xitaunI think the cool thing about the ring is that it creates a kind of archenemy game around the ring controller. it just feels great to play this sub-game.
Quote from ZoskMoxes meet the criteria. Sol Ring doesn't.
2. Its dollar cost is prohibitive for most players and the card usually detracts from the playing experience of everyone in the game [The Power 8].
Quote from KixarI love how there were several comments basically saying " You got to run hate against sol ring and thats stupid " .......Ummm this is EDH? Why in the world would you not run artifact removal? I can say that every deck someone plays, there is atleast 1 artifact in the deck. If your not packing the removal for artifacts then I think there's just an issue in the deck. It doesn't even have to be alot, just simple spells.
Quote from arctic79The EDH/Commander format is all about the politics, and most playgroups act as a democracy. Each individual group has its threshold of what is acceptable play and what isn't. A card should not be banned from a format because of one particular playgroup (or one person of a playgroup) has a problem with degenerate decks. A card or more specifically a Deck Type will be removed from a playgroup if the general consenus is that it is not fun.
One player should not decide on what is fun a group should.
This is what the format is about, if Wizards decides to sanction EDH/Commander and run a GrandPrix, well then I would say the gloves are off, but until then it is Kitchen Table Magic, nothing more.
Quote from arctic79An easy solution to those of you belly aching about fast combo decks is this, let him/her go off and win then say okay you win the rest of us are going to continue playing as if you weren't part of the game. I despise fast combo kills (I love combos though that I can build up to) and those that play them only care about winning not the fun of the game, so let them have their win and keep having fun without them.