Ty for all the advice. I'll have to see if I still own Quest for Renewal and pick up Eesha and Kirtar for testing. I'll drop Bastion Protector for mana Selvala seeing as I own a copy (forgot she was legendary honestly).
I want a chance to playtest Teeg though seeing as I recently traded a promo fatal push for it and I kept high drops at a minimum on purpose with him in mind.
Oddly enough I recently traded away my Tooth and Nail for Shared Animosity for my other new deck though (Edgar Markov).
As far as dropping Paradox Engine due to its degeneracy, it'll probably stay. I'm used to being public enemy #1... my other decks are Narset, Animar, Ghave, and grixis Marchesa.
This is a work in progress. I am admittedly not used to a toolbox deck like this and can use all the advice and suggestions I can get. Thanks in advance.
I've tried not to go with the Enter the Infinite route. High risk but high reward but it's the high risk that worries me because I don't need to hit infinite turns before everyone enters their scoop phase.
So I went 2-1 again this week for a total of 6x Fatal Push. Sitting at 6-2 for the month.
If you want to be extra gross and feel like you're cheating... try Reconnaissance. This card allows you to be hyper agressive and attack all-out while avoiding any unfavorable blocks (this is the 'fair' use).
This card also allows you to untap any first stike vampires like Edgar Markov or Drana, Liberator of Malakir after first strike damage is dealt but before normal combat damage is dealt. (handy for getting +1+1 counters from Drana to your whole team)... obviously busted with Stromkirk Captain. This card also allows you to untap after normal combat damage is dealt for pseudo vigilance as the creature is considered an 'attacking creature' all the way until the end of combat stage.
@ Trigunner - Ok valid point on the echo cost. I didn't realize it said when it etb pay the echo cost next turn. Only reason I eyeballed it is haste and any land but yeah it won't work how I wanted it to.
@ Monsieur Penguin - I guess I'll drop Bontu's Last Reckoning for Herald of Secret Streams when Ixalan comes out.
Went 2-0 today and won both games on turn 4. I'm loving the saltiness and b****ing from my opponents (I'm sadistic like that and apparently had no masochistic opponents). 80% win-rate for the month. 1 full playset down and 3 weeks to go!
Omg, ALL THE YES (x100), I'll take Gaea's Cradle #2!
I need to make a cut for this beauty, any suggestions?
My first thought is Food Chain which is an amazing card, but I rarely have dudes I want to sac. It does keep those 30 minute game-ending turns going when I need it to though, so I'm on the fence here.
Walking Ballista is another possibility... again an amazing card but it sucks to flip off of Maelstrom Wanderer (which seems to happen more often than odds should allow).
Last consideration I have is Rhystic Study... amazing draw power thats usefulness fades as the game progresses.
Cuts are getting really really hard here, suggestions please!
That blue mana doesn't change anything... it has the same activation cost as the card they're talking about replacing (Glen Elendra Archmage) but has a lower mana cost to play.
I still personally prefer glen elendra though as the siren can only counter stuff targeting you or a creature you control whereas archmage is less situational.
I want a chance to playtest Teeg though seeing as I recently traded a promo fatal push for it and I kept high drops at a minimum on purpose with him in mind.
Oddly enough I recently traded away my Tooth and Nail for Shared Animosity for my other new deck though (Edgar Markov).
As far as dropping Paradox Engine due to its degeneracy, it'll probably stay. I'm used to being public enemy #1... my other decks are Narset, Animar, Ghave, and grixis Marchesa.
Anyways, for now -
Out: Bastion Protector
In: Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
4x Captain Sisay
Creature: 30
1x Kytheon, Hero of Akros
2x Eight-and-a-Half-Tails
2x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
2x Gaddock Teeg
2x Saffi Eriksdotter
2x Grand Abolisher
2x Tocatli Honor Guard
2x Kataki, War's Wage
3x Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
3x Reki, the History of Kamigawa
3x Rishkar, Peema Renegade
3x Thalia, Heretic Cathar
3x Aven Mindcensor
3x Sanctum Prelate
3x Mangara of Corondor
3x Hua Tao, Honored Physician
3x Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist
4x Yeva. Nature's Herald
4x Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker
4x Linvala, Keeper of Silence
5x Seedborn Muse
5x Karametra, God of the Harvests
5x Sigarda, Heron's Grace
5x Sigarda, Host of Herons
6x Sun Titan
6x Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
6x Dragonlord Dromoka
7x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
8x Avacyn, Angel of Hope
9x Iona, Shield of Emeria
2x Sylvan Library
2x Oath of Ajani
2x Sterling Grove
3x Growing Rites of Itlimoc
3x Song of the Dryads
3x Bow of Nylea
3x Aura Shards
5x Doubling Season
5x Mirari's Wake
Planeswalker: 7
3x Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
4x Garruk Wildspeaker
5x Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury
5x Ajani, Mentor of Heroes
5x Garruk, Primal Hunter
6x Elspeth, Sun's Champion
6x Ajani Unyielding
Artifact: 9
1x Sol Ring
2x Lightning Greaves
2x Swiftfoot Boots
2x Umezawa's Jitte
2x Sword of the Animist
3x Thousand-Year Elixir
3x Champion's Helm
3x Rhonas's Monument
5x Paradox Engine
Instant: 7
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Path to Exile
1x Enlightened Tutor
2x Heroic Intervention
2x Eladamri's Call
3x Beast Within
3x Teferi's Protection
2x Time of Need
Land: 36
1x Gaea's Cradle
1x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1x Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper
1x Hall of the Bandit Lord
1x Yavimaya Hollow
1x Kor Haven
8x Plains
6x Forest
1x Command Tower
1x Reflecting Pool
1x City of Brass
1x Mana Confluence
1x Gavony Township
1x Savannah
1x Temple Garden
1x Horizon Canopy
1x Sunpetal Grove
1x Windswept Heath
1x Wooded Foothills
1x Flooded Strand
1x Marsh Flats
1x Verdant Catacombs
1x Misty Rainforest
1x Arid Mesa
Wants: Eiganjo Castle, Dark Depths, Miren, the Moaning Well.
In: Gilded Drake
So I went 2-1 again this week for a total of 6x Fatal Push. Sitting at 6-2 for the month.
Well aren't you a fart smeller.. err smart feller. I get flying dinosaurs and that's what matters here lol.
This card also allows you to untap any first stike vampires like Edgar Markov or Drana, Liberator of Malakir after first strike damage is dealt but before normal combat damage is dealt. (handy for getting +1+1 counters from Drana to your whole team)... obviously busted with Stromkirk Captain. This card also allows you to untap after normal combat damage is dealt for pseudo vigilance as the creature is considered an 'attacking creature' all the way until the end of combat stage.
Anyways, here's my decklist... feel free to leave feedback or suggesions. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/edgars-dega-vampires/
*edit* Posting the list to page 2. The list on the 1st post will always be updated. The list here will remain updated until posts reach page 3.
1 Animar, Soul of Elements
Non Creature Spells: 12
1 Glimpse of Nature
1 Worldly Tutor
1 Crop Rotation
1 Hardened Scales Foil
2 Sylvan Library
2 Earthcraft
2 Survival of the Fittest
2 Heroic Intervention
3 Cloudstone Curio
3 Food Chain
3 Fabricate
3 Equilibrium Foil
Creatures: 53
1 Birds of Paradise
2 Cloud of Faeries
2 Phantasmal Image
2 Fauna Shaman
2 Spellskite
2 Stratus Dancer
2 Ainok Survivalist
2 Den Protector
2 Bloom Tender
2 Gilded Drake
2 Sylvan Caryatid Foil
2 Rattleclaw Mystic Foil
2 Beastcaller Savant
2 Walking Ballista
3 Rhonas the Indomitable Foil
3 Thassa, God of the Sea
3 Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
3 Shaman of Forgotten Ways
3 Somberwald Sage
3 Imperial Recruiter Foil
3 Fierce Empath Foil
3 Eternal Witness
3 Rishkar, Peema Renegade Foil
4 Stunt Double
4 Clever Impersonator Foil
4 Ogre Battledriver Foil
4 Temur Sabertooth Foil
4 Phyrexian Metamorph Foil
4 Solemn Simulacrum
4 Vizier of the Menagerie
4 Oracle of Mul Daya
4 Purphoros, God of the Forge
4 Ancestral Statue Foil
4 Dack's Duplicate
5 Xenagos, God of Rebels
5 Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
5 Momir Vig, Simic Visionary Foil
5 Urabrask, the Hidden
5 Peregrine Drake Foil
5 Garruk's Packleader Foil
6 Primordial Sage
6 Soul of the Harvest
6 Prime Speaker Zagana
6 Pathbreaker Ibex
7 Palinchron
7 Great Whale
8 Craterhoof Behemoth
8 Maelstrom Wanderer
9 Void Winnower Foil
10 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
11 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
12 Blightsteel Colossus
1 Volcanic Island
1 Tropical Island
1 Taiga
1 Arid Mesa
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Flooded Strand
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Bloodstained More
1 Windswept Heath
1 Polluted Delta
1 Command Tower
1 Ancient Ziggurat Foil
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Exotic Orchard
1 Mana Confluence
1 City of Brass
1 Stomping Ground
1 Breeding Pool
1 Steam Vents
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Kessig Wolf Run Foil
3 Mountain
4 Forest
4 Island
@ Monsieur Penguin - I guess I'll drop Bontu's Last Reckoning for Herald of Secret Streams when Ixalan comes out.
Ty both.
Omg, ALL THE YES (x100), I'll take Gaea's Cradle #2!
I need to make a cut for this beauty, any suggestions?
My first thought is Food Chain which is an amazing card, but I rarely have dudes I want to sac. It does keep those 30 minute game-ending turns going when I need it to though, so I'm on the fence here.
Walking Ballista is another possibility... again an amazing card but it sucks to flip off of Maelstrom Wanderer (which seems to happen more often than odds should allow).
Last consideration I have is Rhystic Study... amazing draw power thats usefulness fades as the game progresses.
Cuts are getting really really hard here, suggestions please!
"Narset Degenerates out there unite! Stop being shamed into silence... be oppressive and proud of it!"
Oh, wait that was me! But seriously, let's get some discussion going on here.
I still personally prefer glen elendra though as the siren can only counter stuff targeting you or a creature you control whereas archmage is less situational.