So I really wanted to make an Exalted EDH deck that had Nefarox and other colors besides the standard Rafiq deck. That led me into using Zur to win through Exalted and General Damage. Please let me know if you can help me cut cards, or have some strategy/combo suggestions (currently I am debating doing a land destruction/control subtheme, but not sure if that will remain). I will be putting a more detailed description later, but right now would love your feedback:
So I am trying to work on my zombie-themed Sedris deck. There are a few fun combos, namely involving cloudstone curio (i may need to add more ETB and Storm effects to take advantage, as well as artifact recursion). Any tips would be appreciated. Right now I need 32 cards pared out.
I just updated the deck. Still need to take out about 31 cards. I kept in Kiki-Jiki and splinter twin for the sake of Thrax's sacrifice ability, though I can prob cut since it does not fit the zombie theme.
Hm good point on the Sorin. However, I really do like the ability to set an opponent life total to ten. I realize the card draws a lot of hate, but it is my way of responding to a card that an opponent plays that deserves hate.
I was thinking maybe Shirei + Triskelion + Darkest hour? Though yeah it may not be worth including just for that. Didn't know about the Kokusho, thanks!
Well, among the lands, I'd cut (of the 41) Rupture Spire and City of Brass; you don't need them and they're just a pain to have to work with. If you must, also remove Orzhov Basilica because if it gets destroyed you're back like 2 turns.
That's to start. I like your list. Sounds pretty solid thus far, and with some cuts it will be excellent.
Oh, and for creatures: Kokusho is banned (as of current) and Shirei is not necessary unless you have a bunch of 1/1s (which I can't really see a lot of in this deck). Again, a start. There are probably more to cut but I am wary to do that until I see how many cards are actually in the deck. Could you provide that information? Thanks in advance.
I found so many great cards and ideas/combos for a Teysa deck, I don't even know where to start! I have about 50 cards to remove - I would really appreciate help on determining how to figure out what to cut.
If it is possible to still be competitive I would prefer the zombie theme. I do like diregraf captain + gravecrawler + grimgrin as a potential win condition, but thats just minor. I really like zombies and if it can be just as competitive I would love that.
So I need to trim this by about 40ish cards. ANy tips? I just found so many fun things I can do with Thrax I can't bring myself to take cards out. I am going for a zombie theme as well, though honestly I would rather have an awesome thrax deck than pure zombie...
Thanks for the tips! I incorporated several of your suggestions, and am 11 cards over. Any suggestions on strategy and how to determine what to remove?
I use Rhys and here are some things I would suggest.
Admonition Angel > Emeria Angel (Also landfall, but will get you flyers)
Caller of the Claw > Fresh Meat (Same concept but gets you 3/3 beast instead of 2/2 bears)
Champion of Lambholt > Juniper Order Ranger (Puts +1 counters on Ranger just like Champion, but puts +1 counters on the creature who enters also, just costs more)
Those are just some suggestions for replacements.
I am going to post my Rhys deck later today if you wanna take a look
Thanks for the tips! I am actually 19 cards over, but I really like your ideas with transmuting. I am going to definitely try to find a way to incorporate that.
For the first round of cuts I'd suggest looking at : Ludevic's Test Subject (too much investment for too little return), Rayne, Academy Chancellor, Scalpelexis, Mana Short, Twisted Image, Dream Halls (more than likely going to help your opponents more than you), Panoptic Mirror (is actually on the banned list) and Seafarer's Quay, which is cute but really useless when you have Sun Quan in play. I think in place of this you need more artifact ramp. I didn't count your cards, were you over 100? I really think you need to add in Sky Diamond, Grim Monolith and Sol Ring at least. Mana Crypt if you can swing that. Another suggestion I have is to add the blue transmute cards. Crookclaw Transmuter, Drift of Phantasms (finds Oblivion Stone and Capsize, that's enough for me), Ethereal Usher (finds a tucked Sun Quan, Arcanis the Omnipotent, Muddle the Mixture (finds Gilded Drake, mana artifacts, Spellskite) plus is a good counterspell on its own..also Tolaria West is a great land tutor. If you add Crucible of Worlds, it synergizes with Meloku decently.
1 Zur the Enchanter
Exalted Effects:
1 Akrasan Squire
1 Aven Squire
1 Dawnray Archer
1 Battlegrace Angel
1 Duskmantle Prowler
1 Duty-Bount Dead
1 Ethercaste Knight
1 Frontline Sage
1 Guardians of Akrasa
1 Knight of Glory
1 Knight of Infamy
1 Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis
1 Outrider of Jhess
1 Servant of Nefarox
1 Sighted-Caste Sorcerer
1 Sigiled Paladin
1 Sovereigns of Lost Alara
1 Sublime Archangel
1 Angelic Benediction
1 Ardent Plea
1 Cathedral of War
Enchantments:
1 Angelic Renewal
1 solitary confinement
1 necropotence
1 steel of the godhead
1 phyresis
1 diplomatic immunity
1 daybreak coronet
1 propaganda
1 ghostly prison
1 Animate Dead
1 Arcane Laboratory
1 Aura of Silence
1 Cloak of Mists
1 Copy Enchantment
1 daybreak coronet
1 dauthi embrace
1 Felidar Umbra
1 hyena umbra
1 diplomatic immunity
1 frozen aether
1 stasis
1 dovescape
1 false demise
1 flickerform
1 genju of the fields
1 glistening oil
1 greater auramancy
1 heart of light
1 intruder alarm
1 levitation
1 shade's form
1 spirit mantle
1 Sleeper's Robe
1 Steel of the Godhead
1 Teferi's Moat
1 True Conviction
1 kistmet
1 Underworld Dreams
1 Vanishing
1 Academy Rector
1 wall of denial
1 aven mimeomancer
1 sun titan
1 Hanna, Ship's Navigator
1 Umbra Mystic
1 Bruna, Light of Alabaster
1 Sun Quan, Lord of Wu
1 Thistledown Liege
1 Silent Arbiter
1 Jhessian Balmgiver
1 Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
1 Dream Halls
1 elspeth, knight-errant
1 Recall
1 Replenish
1 Retether
Alternate Beaters:
1 Tormented Soul
1 Scythe Specter
1 Serra Avatar
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Dromar, the Banisher
1 invisible stalker
Card Advantage:
1 Mulldrifter
1 Kor Spiritdancer
1 Dimir Cutpurse
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Brainstorm
1 jace beleren
1 Preordain
Counter/Control:
1 Ertai, the Corrupted
1 magus of the moat
1 rewind
1 foil
1 snap
1 Merieke Ri Ber1t
1 oblivion ring
1 pacifism
1 Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer
1 Azorius Guildmage
1 Ethersworn Adjudicator
1 journey to nowhere
1 Mana Short
1 Identity Crisis
1 Into the Void
1 Muddle the Mixture
1 Overrule
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Arcane Denial
1 Guile
1 Xathird Gorgon
1 Rootwater Matriarch
1 Catastrophe
1 Wrath of God
1 Counterlash
1 Undermine
1 Countersquall
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
Land Control:
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Armageddon
1 Catastrophe
1 Spreading Seas
1 Shimmer
1 Annex
1 Mana Vortex
1 Land Tax
1 Tithe
1 Excavation
Land:
1 Nimbus Maze
1 Volrath's Stronghold
1 urborg, tomb of yawgmoth
1 mystic gate
1 rupture spire
1 reliquary tower
1 command tower
1 skycloud expanse
1 azorious chancery
1 terramorphic expanse
1 evolving wilds
1 glacial fortress
1 seachrome coast
1 minamo, school at water's edge
Thanks in advance!
1 Architects of Will
1 Butcher of Malakir
1 Cemetery Reaper
1 Death Baron
1 Deathbringer Thoctar
1 Diregraf Captain
1 Drifting Djinn
1 Evil Twin
1 Flayer of the Hatebound
1 Gempalm Polluter
1 Geralf's Messenger
1 Geth, Lord of the Vault
1 Glen Elendra Liege
1 Goblin Marshal
1 Grave Titan
1 Gravecrawler
1 Gravedigger
1 Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
1 Havengul Lich
1 Havengul Runebinder
1 Jund Sojourners
1 Lich Lord of Unx
1 Lightning Reaver
1 Lim-Dul the Necromancer
1 Lord of the Undead
1 Macetail Hystrodon
1 Mulldrifter
1 Necrotic Ooze
1 Nightscape Familiar
1 Noxious Ghoul
1 Primoc Escapee
1 Puppeteer Clique
1 Ridge Rannet
1 Scion of Darkness
1 Sedris, the Traitor King
1 Shriekmaw
1 Slithermuse
1 Soulless One
1 Stalking Vengeance
1 Undead Warchief
1 Vengeful Pharaoh
1 Zombie Master
1 Zombie Trailblazer
1 Army of the Damned
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Brainspoil
1 Burn at the Stake
1 Capsize
1 Clutch of the Undercity
1 Counterspell
1 Countersquall
1 Crosis's Charm
1 Cruel Ultimatum
1 Damnation
1 Demonic Collusion
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Exsanguinate
1 Ghoulcaller's Chant
1 Hex
1 Muddle the Mixture
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Rise from the Grave
1 Shattering Spree
1 Spell Crumple
1 Spinal Embrace
1 Stifle
1 Terminate
1 Zombie Apocalypse
Enchantments
1 Attrition
1 Call to the Grave
1 Call to the Kindred
1 Grave Pact
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Rooftop Storm
1 Teferi's Veil
1 Tombstone Stairwell
Artifacts
1 Ashnod's Altar
1 Cloudstone Curio
1 Darksteel Plate
1 Deathrender
1 Dimir Signet
1 Grimoire of the Dead
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Nim Deathmantle
1 Obelisk of Grixis
1 Phyrexian Altar
1 Rakdos Signet
1 Sol Ring
1 Barren Moor
1 Crumbling Necropolis
1 Desolate Lighthouse
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Forgotten Cave
6 Island
1 Jwar Isle Refuge
1 Lonely Sandbar
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
10 Mountain Buy
1 Rakdos Carnarium
1 Rupture Spire
9 Swamp Buy
1 Tainted Isle
1 Tainted Peak
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Planeswalkers
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
1 Sorin Markov
1 Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded
1 Archon of Justice
1 Avatar of Woe
1 Belfry Spirit
1 Bloodghast
1 Brood of Cockroaches
1 Butcher of Malakir
1 Crusading Knight
1 Darien, King of Kjeldor
1 Deathbringer Liege
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder
1 Entomber Exarch
1 Geth, Lord of the Vault
1 Ghost Council of Orzhova
1 Grave Titan
1 Gwyllion Hedge-Mage
1 Hell's Caretaker
1 Hero of Bladehold
1 Hex Parasite
1 Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Karmic Guide
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Massacre Wurm
1 Mentor of the Meek
1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1 Nezumi Graverobber
1 Painter's Servant
1 Pestilence Demon
1 Phyrexian Plaguelord
1 Puppeteer Clique
1 Reassembling Skeleton
1 Reborn Hero
1 Reiver Demon
1 Reveillark
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Skeletal Vampire
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Soul Warden
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Sun Titan
1 Suture Priest
1 Teysa, Orzhov Scion
1 Twilight Drover
1 Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter
1 Windborn Muse
1 World Queller
1 Yosei, the Morning Star
1 Beacon of Unrest
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Corpse Dance
1 Curse of the Cabal
1 Damnation
1 Decree of Justice
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Dread Return
1 Hour of Reckoning
1 Identity Crisis
1 Lingering Souls
1 Living Death
1 Martial Coup
1 Mortify
1 Oblation
1 Plunge into Darkness
1 Profane Command
1 Sign in Blood
1 Storm Herd
1 Sudden Spoiling
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Unburial Rites
1 Urborg Justice
1 Wrath of God
Enchantments
1 Animate Dead
1 Attrition
1 Aura of Silence
1 Black Market
1 Darkest Hour
1 Debtors' Knell
1 Enduring Renewal
1 Field of Souls
1 Grave Pact
1 Land Tax
1 Luminarch Ascension
1 Marshal's Anthem
1 Necromancer's Covenant
1 Oversold Cemetery
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Tombstone Stairwell
1 Altar Of Dementia
1 Ashnod's Altar
1 Bonehoard
1 Cauldron of Souls
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Everflowing Chalice
1 Jade Monolith
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Nim Deathmantle
1 Orzhov Signet
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
1 Whispersilk Cloak
1 Worldslayer
Lands
1 Caves of Koilos
1 Command Tower
1 High Market
1 Kjeldoran Outpost
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 Phyrexian Tower
14 Plains
15 Swamp
1 Temple of the False God
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Vault of the Archangel
Planeswalkers
1 Elspeth Tirel
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1 Cemetery Reaper
1 Death Baron Buy
1 Deathbringer Thoctar
1 Diregraf Captain
1 Dominus of Fealty
1 Dralnu, Lich Lord
1 Dread Slaver
1 Evil Twin
1 Geralf's Messenger
1 Geth, Lord of the Vault
1 Ghastly Remains
1 Glen Elendra Liege
1 Grave Titan
1 Gravecrawler Buy
1 Gravedigger Buy
1 Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
1 Havengul Lich
1 Havengul Runebinder
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1 Lich Lord of Unx
1 Lightning Reaver
1 Lim-Dul the Necromancer
1 Lord of the Undead
1 Mindwrack Liege
1 Mortivore
1 Necrotic Ooze
1 Nightscape Familiar
1 Noxious Ghoul Buy
2 Phylactery Lich Buy
1 Priest of Urabrask Buy
1 Prince of Thralls
1 Sedris, the Traitor King
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Shepherd of Rot
1 Soulless One
1 Unbreathing Horde
1 Undead Warchief
1 Vengeful Pharaoh
1 Vesuvan Shapeshifter
1 Zombie Master Buy
1 Zombie Trailblazer
1 Army of the Damned
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Burn at the Stake
1 Capsize
1 Choice of Damnations
1 Countersquall Buy
1 Cruel Ultimatum
1 Damnation
1 Demonic Collusion
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Devil's Play Buy
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Exsanguinate
1 Ghoulcaller's Chant
1 Hex
1 Kaervek's Purge
1 Rise from the Grave
1 Spell Crumple
1 Spinal Embrace
1 Terminate
1 Turn Aside
1 Zombie Apocalypse
Enchantments
1 Attrition
1 Call to the Grave
1 Call to the Kindred
1 Elemental Augury
1 Elemental Mastery
1 Endless Ranks of the Dead
1 Heartless Summoning
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Rooftop Storm
1 Splinter Twin
1 Stranglehold
1 Tombstone Stairwell
Artifacts
1 Cloudstone Curio
1 Coalition Relic
1 Darksteel Plate
1 Deathrender
1 Dimir Signet
1 Grimoire of the Dead
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Nim Deathmantle
1 Obelisk of Grixis
1 Rakdos Signet
1 Sol Ring
1 Timesifter
1 Worldslayer
1 Barren Moor
1 Crumbling Necropolis
1 Desolate Lighthouse
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Forgotten Cave
6 Island Buy
1 Jwar Isle Refuge Buy
1 Lonely Sandbar
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
10 Mountain
1 Rakdos Carnarium
1 Rupture Spire
9 Swamp
1 Tainted Isle
1 Tainted Peak
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Planeswalkers
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
1 Sorin Markov
1 Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded