MTG Salvation

Sweet, there are plenty of times where I just want to pick off a commander or three thats good enough for me, I like having less all in options, I can burn this dragon without leaving myself without a wrath just to kill some key targets.

The treasure dragon is also not bad, a dragon that ramps

I normally suggest Lazav, dimir mastermind but Gonti, lord of luxury is similar in that thier power scales with your opponent's power.

I mean doing something with unusual limitations also can help power you down... Like one card from every set ever or Chair or Beard Tribal decks that are a lot of fun to build.

I think all those three obscure tribal decks you suggested will work, I'd suggest snakes just because it has green it in and wont be so expensive to make

Yeah, it looks okay but I worry it will always be a late pick because it runs into a spirit token and dies.

I might do a strange flip around where I put in Audacious Thief for Jhessian Thief and put the Cloudkin Seer in that slot.

Tomebound Lich vs Shadowmage infiltrator Hmmm there can only be one....

Blood for Bones seems really strong despite the sac a creature cost, its kind of really good for the value reanimator deck rather than cheating things into play.

Black is getting so many great cards this set I am going to have do a reexamination of my black section I think.

Yeah the woodland champion makes the cut... I am trying to avoid making too many changes just because I haven't even obtained let alone tested the MH stuff.

I am just going to be looking for stuff with easy replacements for underwhelming cards I have a kind of mental note of cards that I wish I had something better in that slot.

Bloodthirsty Aerialist same stats as nighthawk but I do not have a life gain theme in my cube (just random lifelinkers) so I am not sure its worth it.
Vampire of the Dire Moon the best typhoid rats?

I am likely to run Empyrean Eagle over thunderclap.

I only have 3 slots for utility lands hard choice, but I think Cryptic Caves makes the cut.

Dragon mage is just way too expensive for the red in my cube.

Hmm Corpse Knight might finally be good enough to replace Maw of obzedat allowing you to just grind people outside of the combat step. Although I am not sure I have seen many people play Suture priest.

Ramp and beat your opponent to death with your commander.

Cards like Strata Scythe, Sword of the Animist, back up beaters like Dungrove Elder, Omnath. Locus of Mana,

All the mana doublers. caged sun gauntlet of power etc.

There are a few green card draw cards both burst draw based on creature power and ongoing draw based on casting large creatures you'll want to include.

And don't forget removal, you have artifact and enchantment removal and Beast within.

Anything you are picking up from Modern Horizons?

I had one draft and got both Nurturing Peatland and Scrapyard Recombiner. I wanted. The recombiner hits the gearhulks, Hangarback walker, (walking ballista) and Myr Battlesphere. For 3 mana its a kind of back up birthing pod.

I dropped reliquary tower because of the comments people were making in the main section about it and Burnished Hart because I frequently run out of basics to abuse it.

I hope getting featured on the front page/main section helped you a whole lot.

I am an aggro deck I want to draw a ton of cards but I don't want to play all those cards because then I am just overextending into wraths. I am using cards like edric and coastal piracy to draw those cards so I have a short window for card advantage before that advantage is cut off. So I need to hold onto my cards.

I also have it in my Glissa, the traitor deck and I probably don't need it but my deck is almost all artifacts so I just have a stack of utility lands. I have been stuck holding 26 cards in hand after getting milled into mass removal triggering the card return.

I think I did recently remove it from my UW control deck because that deck had a lot more stringent mana costs trying to cast things like Cryptic command and double white cards.

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My Zirilan of the Claw deck loves this I can now just mulligan to find lands and ramp and not worry about getting my best dragons trapped in hand. I was often just mulling to 4 just to find lands and ramp under the current system.

I expect we will have a lot less dead games now, but I think combo decks might get a lot more problematic, but combo abuse can be solved by individual groups

answers to combos will be even easier to find by mull combo decks will find their combo pieces.
It's what's been happening in legacy, and it's what's going to happen in EDH too. The increase in combo was the first thing everyone thought too. But answers are always easier to find.

It is the nature of this format that the threats are diverse and low cost moneywise while the efficient all-purpose answers are really expensive you have add them to all your decks regardless of theme plus their use in other formats. More causal playgroups just don't invest in more answers when it's so much more bang for your buck to get more threats that then leads to an arms race to combos (and there are so many low-cost combos). If you reduce the inherent randomness in the format when people are playing with threat dense but answer light decks you will run into problems. However, that is something that individual groups are going to have to work through if too many of their games are being ruined by too early combos.

:/ I play blink and don't intend to play Soulherder It just feels like its only good in blink while playing some UW ETB creatures with reasonable bodies of their own are much more universal.

On second thoughts I don't think I'll add Watcher for Tomorrow because it's super annoying to have a card under my card like that I like to avoid annoying mechanics.

Yeah but I don't like energy so I don't have scrapper champion. Also, it's specifically my artifact/equipment deck that is best able to get lots of different creature types which is always where a double striker is good. Its an interesting comparison with Auriok Edgewright.

Okay, you have convinced me I'll try out the slug, my black tends to be more defensive.

My Zirilan of the Claw deck loves this I can now just mulligan to find lands and ramp and not worry about getting my best dragons trapped in hand. I was often just mulling to 4 just to find lands and ramp under the current system.

I expect we will have a lot less dead games now, but I think combo decks might get a lot more problematic, but combo abuse can be solved by individual groups

Well I went to store championships and got completely obliterated 0-3 drop

So I am back to Pheonix but with some modifications



A lot more mythics in the Pheonix deck :s. I think I have a good set up against Narset now, that was frustrating me before. I am still struggling to play against Chandra since I don't actually win that fast against Red even if I can remove all their creatures. I am worried about the mid-range match up which has a lot of life gain and large hard to remove creatures, typically I have had to use two burn spells to remove some of their cards. But Kefnet is quite good both as an advantage and a recurring blocker.

Whoo full spoiler ooooh boy I have a lot of changes since I have a modern only cube.

White
Battle Screech - Promise of Brunei
Valiant Changeling - not sure on the cut but it's interesting I have no double-strikers atm.
Ephemerate - best of its type but I already cut cloudshift
Rhox Veteran - I like battle-cry as a mechanic.

Goldnight Commander, Imperial Aerosaur and Sandsteppe Outcast are on the weaker side.

Blue
Fact or Fiction - Forbidden Alchemy
Faerie Seer - Siren Stormtamer
Watcher for Tomorrow - Jhessian Thief (I need to focus more on wizards and less on rouges unfortunetly which also means no ninja's)

Black
Carrion Feeder - Gnarled Scarhide
Crypt Rats - Plague Mare
Sling-Gang Lieutenant - Moan of the Unhallowed (low power high synergy particularly with red)
Warteye Witch - Vicera seerer last day gem.

Red
Goblin Oriflamme - Madcap Skills
Goblin War Party - thinking about it replacing rolling thunder
Ravenous Giant - Smoldering Werewolf Its big

Green
Krosan Tusker :/ I think Shefet monitor is still better... I think
Nantuko Cultivator - high synergistic with my cube but I just don't know what to cut
Nimble Mongoose - Blossoming Defence I couldn't find a creature cut.
Springbloom Druid - another synergy card but the etb tapped does make it worse, I prefer the creatures I have.
Wall of Blossoms - I feel like my green is too aggro for this card its better in white.
overall my green section is annoyingly too strong.

Multicoloured
Good-Fortune Unicorn - Juniper Order Ranger

Artifacts
a bunch of almosts but I don't think so

Lands
Cycle lands - Desert cycle lands
Cave of Temptation - this is really good Foundry of the consuls, rouges passage or Stalking stones all of them have low pick counts probably rouges passage I think

I have issues with finding the right cuts in a few cases particularly for white and green.
http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/51100

I went 3-1 at standard showdown Tuesday so I don't really want to mess with it since its working so far. FNM tonight if I struggle I might switch it up for store champs on Sunday.


Proposed changes

- 4 discovery // dispersal
+ 2 Lava Coil
+ 2 Negate

Sideboard
+ 2 Ral, Izzet Viceroy
+ 2 disdainful stroke

The issue is that draw lava coil against control sucks but drawing discovery helps you hit land drops. Against aggro negate is sometimes still useful but not efficient to hold up.

Ral and Disdainful are for mid-range matchups (and not control since Teferei, Time Raveller makes counter magic suck)

Watcher of tomorrow looks good but argh! no space. How does it compare with Azure Mage? I have clashing blue aggro decks atm. I have wizards, +1/+1 counters and unblockable rouges :/ I think to fit in more wizards I might have to just cut the rouges.

Soul Herder is a really good engine piece but my other U/W cards pack more punch, it just feels too slow that the opponent will just kill it before it gets value. Mistmeadow witch can perform shenanigans like blinking out blocker.

I really want to play springbloom druid do I just straight replace actual Harrow, I feel like I could almost just replace all non-creatures in green for thier creature equalivents at this point.