So there's not even a lot of discussion in this thread recently and as one of my favourite decks of all time I've been looking for a way to give scapeshift an edge again vs the current meta (which is quite hard I feel).
My solution has been to look back at past metagames and see which brands of scapeshift were successful then.
My eye was drawn to the 'goyf'shift version that went 11-0 at a GP a couple of years ago. It's quite possible that while in the interim, that kind of tempo/combo list hasn't been very good (very meta dependant) it's probably quite good right now.
I'm going to build a current version of goyfshift (or tarmoshift) and give it a whirl in my fairly cutthroat combo-heavy meta.
Hmm, ive been hovering the forums for ages. I agree that the meta isnt very good for it at the momen . I was wondering what I could do to change it up slightly. Im not rich enough for goyfs. 250 ea. Wowzaaaaaa.
I was thinking of moving some more threats to the mainboard, such as PrimeTime or Keranos. Thoughts?
Thanks heaps! I was just curious because if I was at a tournament I would hate to have gotten a game loss (done so with the old morph ruling when khans came out ) Will play more focused from now on when using Courser
I have seen some threads about courser and not revealing the top card, when the opponent notices then the judge just makes the player reveal it because it is a simple gamestate fix.
However, at FNM the other week I forgot to reveal it. My opponent also didn't notice it, and my next turn came around and I drew my card and continued play as usual via revealing top card etc.
At my LGS we have a winners table that is being recorded and this is how I noticed my error at this point. With the match finishing with neither player noticing the error.
IF my opponent picked up that I had drawn my card without revealing (because he noticed me reveal the top card again) what would be the repercussions because I am unable to prove what card was actually on top of my library?
Both rulings for FNM and tournament play would be helpful also
You need to have 4 Hellriders in the deck if you are going for super quick aggro, it is a must.
I'm not experienced enough to tell you what to take out. But I just know there needs to be 4.
Personally I don't think Boros Elite should be in there. Boros Reckoner, I'm not familar enought with either.
Thalia is iffy, because you are low land with 12 spells. you will most liekly never get to play them spells with a Thalia.
I played Skaarg Guildmage at the pre-release, and I'm wondering if there's a way to fit it in the deck somewhere. Because paying 3 and animating a land and hitting for 4 was a very strong play the whole night. Although with the format being so removal heavy... maybe not, I dunno.
Remember thats limited, hardly any removal.
You'll end up getting your land killed. Don't do it.
Ummmm, everything in there is as cheap as it's going to get for a venser blink deck :S
Unless you wanna swap out the Blade Splicer for some Fiend Hunter's I don't think it will get any cheaper. It can only get better and more expensive from the point your deck is at.
May I suggest Cloudshift for extra blinkage? Get rid of the Divination, sorcery speed is really bad is this type of deck.
Thanks for bringing up Acidic Slime. He's been in the back of mind for a bit now. I'll follow WRR and put a one-of for GSZing in my next build.
Updated the top with more test results.
EDIT:
Does anybody know off-hand any creature tutors other than Green Sun's Zenith? Maybe something that could pull white OR green?
Conjurers closet was mainly for acidic slime. Also it acts as a vigilence giver for a creature you control each turn. Attack with restoration angel. Closet at end. Flicking itself then a slime. Giving a fresh angel or blocking and a destroy land.
The deck I'm building is based around acidic slime and a Stonehorn Dignitary lock. I've also added a couple Sigarda, Host of Heron for another win con.
Hey guys. I've been testing my deck and it seems to do quite well. Just wondering about my sb. My meta has pretty much everything so I'm trying to keep it broad. Thanks for the help.
Hey guys. First attempt at my pod deck. I though junk would be better over GWU because you only really play that color for the images.
With my build so far forget the land as I haven't put too much though into it.
I am unsure if I want 4x o-Rings or 2 and 2 GO for the throats.
Hmm, ive been hovering the forums for ages. I agree that the meta isnt very good for it at the momen . I was wondering what I could do to change it up slightly. Im not rich enough for goyfs. 250 ea. Wowzaaaaaa.
I was thinking of moving some more threats to the mainboard, such as PrimeTime or Keranos. Thoughts?
However, at FNM the other week I forgot to reveal it. My opponent also didn't notice it, and my next turn came around and I drew my card and continued play as usual via revealing top card etc.
At my LGS we have a winners table that is being recorded and this is how I noticed my error at this point. With the match finishing with neither player noticing the error.
IF my opponent picked up that I had drawn my card without revealing (because he noticed me reveal the top card again) what would be the repercussions because I am unable to prove what card was actually on top of my library?
Both rulings for FNM and tournament play would be helpful also
His deck is extremely Strong. However I'm not convined with the Lilianas, perhaps cut them for 2 Garruks and replace the Thragtusk
I'm not experienced enough to tell you what to take out. But I just know there needs to be 4.
Personally I don't think Boros Elite should be in there. Boros Reckoner, I'm not familar enought with either.
Thalia is iffy, because you are low land with 12 spells. you will most liekly never get to play them spells with a Thalia.
Remember thats limited, hardly any removal.
You'll end up getting your land killed. Don't do it.
Unless you wanna swap out the Blade Splicer for some Fiend Hunter's I don't think it will get any cheaper. It can only get better and more expensive from the point your deck is at.
May I suggest Cloudshift for extra blinkage? Get rid of the Divination, sorcery speed is really bad is this type of deck.
Think about Sun Titan, many different interactions. Brings back O-Rings, Ghost quarters[/CARD,] Evolving WIlds, Blade Splicer
You could even go for a Phantasmal Image interaction. So many different combos will BLue/White Blink decks. It's hilarious.
Conjurers closet was mainly for acidic slime. Also it acts as a vigilence giver for a creature you control each turn. Attack with restoration angel. Closet at end. Flicking itself then a slime. Giving a fresh angel or blocking and a destroy land.
The deck I'm building is based around acidic slime and a Stonehorn Dignitary lock. I've also added a couple Sigarda, Host of Heron for another win con.
6x Forest
5x Mountain
4x Copperline Gorge
4x Rootbound Crag
4x Inkmoth Nexus
2x Kessig Wolf Run
Creatures [16]
4x Primeval Titan
2x Inferno Titan
3x Solemn Simulacrum
2x Acidic Slime
1x Thrun the Last Troll
1x Birds of Paradise
3x Huntmaster of the Fells
4x Rampant Growth
4x Sphere of the Suns
3x Beast Within
2x Green Sun Zenith
3x Slagstorm
Planeswalkers [3]:
2x Garruk, Primal Hunter
1x Karn Liberated
4x Ancient Grudge
2x Thrun the Last Troll
2x Grafdiggers Cage
2x Sword of Feast and Famine
2x Sword of War and Peace
2x Naturalize
1x Beast Within
With my build so far forget the land as I haven't put too much though into it.
I am unsure if I want 4x o-Rings or 2 and 2 GO for the throats.
As follows.
6x Forrest
4x Swamp
2x Plains
4x Woodland Cemetary
4x Sunpetal Grove
4x Isolated Chapel
Creatures [26]:
1-Dorks
4x Birds of Paradise
1x Avacyns Pilgrim
4x Viridian Emissary
3-CMC
2x Blade Splicer
2x Fiend Hunter
4-CMC
2x Solemn Simulacrum
1x Phyrexian Obliterator
1x Phyrexian Metamorph
5-CMC
3x Acidic Slime
1x Archon of Justice
1x Wurmcoil Engine
1x Sun Titan
1x Grave Titan
7-CMC
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1x Sheoldred, the Whispering One
Spells [10]:
4x Birthing Pod
4x Oblivion Ring
2x Unburial Rites
8x Forest
3x Mountain
4x Copperline Gorge
4x Rootbound Crag
4x Inkmoth Nexus
2x Kessig Wolf Run
Creatures [17]
4x Viridian Emissary
4x Primeval Titan
3x Solemn Simulacrum
2x Acidic Slime
1x Inferno Titan
1x Thrun the Last Troll
1x Birds of Paradise
1x Huntmaster of the Fells
4x Rampant Growth
4x Beast Within
3x Green Sun Zenith
3x Slagstorm
Planeswalkers [4]:
2x Garruk, Primal Hunter
1x Garruk Relentless
1x Karn Liberated
4x Ancient Grudge
2x Thrun the Last Troll
2x Grafdiggers Cage
2x Sword of Feast and Famine
2x Sword of War and Peace
2x Ratchet Bomb
1x Wurmcoil Engine
I hear my meta is full of aggro/zombies/control.
8x Forest
4x Inkmoth Nexus
3x Mountain
4x Copperline Gorge
4x Rootbound Crag
2x Kessig Wolf Run
Creatures [16]
4x Viridian Emissary
4x Primeval Titan
3x Solemn Simulacrum
2x Acidic Slime
2x Birds of Paradise
1x Huntmaster of the Fells
4x Green Sun Zenith
4x Rampant Growth
4x Beast Within
3x Slagstorm
2x Garruk, Primal Hunter
1x Garruk Relentless
4x Ancient Grudge
3x Thrun the Last Troll
4x Sword of Feast and Famine
2x Tree of Redemption
1x Slagstorm
1x Karn Liberated