Hello! Been a while since I posted or lurked, and so..
I present to you guys Nin, the Pain Artist's card draw chaos!
Basically this deck aims to let opponents draw cards together with you and punish them for that, through cards like Sudden Impact and copy effects such as Reverberate. How chaos-y the deck can be depends on what spells your friends have on their hands or what they play.
I thought of including cards like Fiery Gambit and it's ilk, but it doesn't stay on theme with nin's ability, which is real card draw and damage.
I'm looking for suggestions that can help create chaos that is relevant to the card-draw theme and cards that punish or exploit the cards in everyone's hands.
I am aware that my playstyle of letting opponent's draw is giving them answers to my set ups. That is my goal. To promote interaction and if the table is able to foil my plans I accept it so. I am not interested in Niv-Curiosity combo for my RU edh, which is partly why I avoid including Niv-Mizzet in. My playgroup avoids infinite combos, but is okay with Bloodchief Ascension-Mindcrank combos. Also I am a mid range budget player so I won't consider cards like Volcanic Island, thanks!
Cards I am considering to add: Rite of Replication, Solemn Simulacrum, Font of Mythos, Browbeat, Deep Analysis, Shattering Spree, Increasing Vengeance, Bulwark
Do give me your thoughts and opinions to make it able to interact with my friends and not go for degenerate stuff! I hope you enjoy this brew.
Updated the deck. Won't be using Mirror Entity anytime soon because of the price. Still looking for cards! Do I need board wipes? What are good ways to recover lost board presence? What are good removals for the deck?
I wouldn't really want to use Karona because I'm damn sure my playgroup will use it to attack only me just to mess with me.. and I don't want to include the vows just to prevent that. Or rather how can I get past that?
EDIT: Might consider using progenitus... unless someone can teach me on how to prevent getting kill by my own Karona.
Hi guys, I recently went on hiatus on EDH because I was focusing on studies and when I came back, it just didn't feel engaging and interactive anymore with my Yeva or Bruna. I chanced on allies and used to think it's too much of a hassle to keep track of these, but now LETS DO IT.
Help suggest me some cards and combos (maybe update me on some juicy RtR cards that can do well here?) Thanks in advance for helping as I missed out since M13.
I'll update the deck as I chance upon more interesting cards. Basically I want to build a deck that has nice interactions not douchey decks that make my friends groan :/
EDIT 23/11: Updated some cards here from suggestions!
EDIT 24/11: Need help with cuts.
I'm trying to keep on a budget so I'd stay away from Genesis and Sword for now, but thanks for the drumhunter suggestion and Seton's explanation. When I get the deck in the mail I will alternate between both and see which commander appeals best to me.
How do I recur my druids if I were to use Seton? Even when I'm using Kamahl, I'm kinda lost on Gilt-Leaf Archdruid and his ability after a wrath. Any ideas anyone?
I decided on Kamahl because he is an Overrun that can be recurred from the command zone, but yes I know how powerful Seton could be. But aside from the mana generation, it isn't a good finisher, in my opinion.
Updated the list. Took out Primeval Titan because it wasn't a druid, and it was also in my mayael deck and I don't want to fork out another $15 for it. What are some cheap tribal support cards I could use in this deck?
I have made some changes to the deck and I guess I won't be including stuff like T&N or any card over $8 so I wouldn't break the bank. Any other suggestions I could get from you guys? I was considering Creeping Renaissance..
Managed to squeeze in Krosan Restorer. What could I cut for Descendant's Path? Lurking Predators perhaps? But I have a copy of LP with me and LP triggers more often than DP. I choose to keep beacon in because of it's shuffle effect.
Hi guys, recently my playgroup has finally dawned upon the major problem in EDH, and that is our meta has been changing near to the extent of infinite combos. So we have banned infinite in our meta, and I came around to try and build a fun deck and at the same time able to hold it's own.
I decided to build a tribal druid deck (my first tribal actually) around Kamahl, Fist of Krosa and I'd really appreciate it if I could have suggestions for cards that synergize with the Tribal theme and druids, while at the same time be able to use Kamahl to protect my board from wraths. My main goal to win with this deck is through token-producing stuff like Rampaging Baloths and making from 1/1 insects to 6/6 wurms to overwhelm, and a druid tribal. This is kinda like a community building a deck thing again, so I'd appreciate it if you guys would help me out.
In my meta I face an Oona, Queen of the Fae mill/exile, a Kaalia of the Vast aggro beats, an Olivia Voldaren goodstuff and a Hanna, Ship's Navigator proliferate artifact deck.
EDIT: I came up with a rough list. Did I miss out any key cards or auto-includes?
I present to you guys Nin, the Pain Artist's card draw chaos!
Basically this deck aims to let opponents draw cards together with you and punish them for that, through cards like Sudden Impact and copy effects such as Reverberate. How chaos-y the deck can be depends on what spells your friends have on their hands or what they play.
I thought of including cards like Fiery Gambit and it's ilk, but it doesn't stay on theme with nin's ability, which is real card draw and damage.
You will see very fun combos like Nin, the Pain Artist + Repercussion, which enables Blasphemous Act to be a finisher. Or trick your friends with a Trade Secrets into Cerebral Vortex. Or a janky combo such as (Any huge draw effect) + Windfall + Psychosis Crawler/etc.
I'm looking for suggestions that can help create chaos that is relevant to the card-draw theme and cards that punish or exploit the cards in everyone's hands.
I am aware that my playstyle of letting opponent's draw is giving them answers to my set ups. That is my goal. To promote interaction and if the table is able to foil my plans I accept it so. I am not interested in Niv-Curiosity combo for my RU edh, which is partly why I avoid including Niv-Mizzet in. My playgroup avoids infinite combos, but is okay with Bloodchief Ascension-Mindcrank combos. Also I am a mid range budget player so I won't consider cards like Volcanic Island, thanks!
Cards I am considering to add: Rite of Replication, Solemn Simulacrum, Font of Mythos, Browbeat, Deep Analysis, Shattering Spree, Increasing Vengeance, Bulwark
Do give me your thoughts and opinions to make it able to interact with my friends and not go for degenerate stuff! I hope you enjoy this brew.
1x Anger
1x Charmbreaker Devils
1x Clone
1x Darksteel Myr
1x Djinn Illuminatus
1x Goblin Electromancer
1x Iron Myr
1x Jace's Archivist
1x Mindclaw Shaman
1x Mnemonic Wall
1x Mulldrifter
1x Nin, the Pain Artist
1x Nucklavee
1x Psychosis Crawler
1x Scourge of Kher Ridges
1x Silver Myr
1x Sphinx of Magosi
1x Stuffy Doll
1x Trinket Mage
1x Viashino Heretic
1x Whirlpool Warrior
Artifact (10)
1x Chromatic Lantern
1x Darksteel Ingot
1x Darksteel Plate
1x Illusionist's Bracers
1x Izzet Keyrune
1x Izzet Signet
1x Library of Leng
1x Rings of Brighthearth
1x Sol Ring
1x Teferi's Puzzle Box
1x Cast Through Time
1x Dual Casting
1x Mana Flare
1x Repercussion
1x Training Grounds
1x Vicious Shadows
1x Wild Evocation
Instant (18)
1x Blue Sun's Zenith
1x Capsize
1x Cerebral Vortex
1x Chaos Warp
1x Counterflux
1x Delay
1x Echoing Truth
1x Evacuation
1x Fork
1x Hinder
1x Mnemonic Nexus
1x Mystical Tutor
1x Reiterate
1x Reverberate
1x Runeflare Trap
1x Sudden Impact
1x Turnabout
1x Wild Ricochet
Land (35)
1x Cascade Bluffs
1x City of Brass
1x Desolate Lighthouse
1x Evolving Wilds
1x High Market
15x Island
1x Izzet Boilerworks
1x Izzet Guildgate
12x Mountain
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Aftershock
1x Blasphemous Act
1x Blatant Thievery
1x Inner Fire
1x Molten Psyche
1x Spiraling Embers
1x Time Warp
1x Trade Secrets
1x Windfall
Maybeboard (8)
1x Browbeat
1x Bulwark
1x Deep Analysis
1x Font of Mythos
1x Increasing Vengeance
1x Rite of Replication
1x Shattering Spree
1x Solemn Simulacrum
Link to deck @ TappedOut.net
I wouldn't really want to use Karona because I'm damn sure my playgroup will use it to attack only me just to mess with me.. and I don't want to include the vows just to prevent that. Or rather how can I get past that?
EDIT: Might consider using progenitus... unless someone can teach me on how to prevent getting kill by my own Karona.
1x Karona, False God
1x Agadeem Occultist
1x Akoum Battlesinger
1x Bala Ged Thief
1x Bojuka Brigand
1x Graypelt Hunter
1x Hada Freeblade
1x Hagra Diabolist
1x Halimar Excavator
1x Harabaz Druid
1x Highland Berserker
1x Joraga Bard
1x Jwari Shapeshifter
1x Kabira Evangel
1x Kazandu Blademaster
1x Kazuul Warlord
1x Makindi Shieldmate
1x Murasa Pyromancer
1x Nimana Sell-sword
1x Ondu Cleric
1x Oran-Rief Survivalist
1x Sea Gate Loremaster
1x Seascape Aerialist
1x Tajuru Archer
1x Talus Paladin
1x Tuktuk Grunts
1x Tuktuk Scrapper
1x Turntimber Ranger
1x Umara Raptor
1x Clone
1x Mirror Entity
1x Shapesharer
1x Cairn Wanderer
1x Taurean Mauler
1x Reya Dawnbringer
1x Acidic Slime
1x Necrotic Ooze
1x Mirror Entity
1x Evil Twin
1x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1x Shard Convergence
1x Genesis Wave
1x Rite of Replication
1x Patriarch Bidding
1x Diabolic Tutor
1x Cultivate
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Rampant Growth
1x Distant Melody
1x Titanic Ultimatum
1x Living Death
Enchantments (10)
1x Conspiracy
1x Mana Echoes
1x Steely Resolve
1x Equilibrium
1x Mana Echoes
1x Prismatic Omen
1x Xenograft
1x Maelstrom Nexus
1x Mirari's Wake
1x Splinter Twin
1x Aura Shards
1x Parallax Wave
Planeswalkers (1)
1x Venser, the Sojourner
Artifacts (12)
1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Darksteel Ingot
1x Chromatic Lantern
1x Armillary Sphere
1x Coldsteel Heart
1x Fellwar Stone
1x Gilded Lotus
1x Cauldron of Souls
1x Prophetic Prism
1x Crystal Shard
1x Mimic Vat
1x Minion Reflector
Instants (11)
1x Join the Ranks
1x Ghostway
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Cackling Counterpart
1x Crib Swap
1x Mystical Tutor
1x Path to Exile
1x Momentary Blink
1x Turn to Mist
1x Cloudshift
1x Saving Grasp
1x Snap
1x Command Tower
1x City of Brass
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Rootbound Crag
1x Jungle Shrine
1x Arcane Sanctum
1x Crumbling Necropolis
1x Savage Lands
1x Seaside Citadel
1x Drowned Catacomb
1x Exotic Orchard
1x Sunpetal Grove
1x Glacial Fortress
1x Ancient Ziggurat
1x Shimmering Grotto
1x Vivid Creek
1x Vivid Grove
1x Vivid Marsh
1x Vivid Meadow
1x Vivid Crag
1x Evolving Wilds
1x Terramorphic Expanse
3x Mountain
3x Plains
2x Swamp
3x Forest
3x Island
Help suggest me some cards and combos (maybe update me on some juicy RtR cards that can do well here?) Thanks in advance for helping as I missed out since M13.
I'll update the deck as I chance upon more interesting cards. Basically I want to build a deck that has nice interactions not douchey decks that make my friends groan :/
EDIT 23/11: Updated some cards here from suggestions!
EDIT 24/11: Need help with cuts.
I decided to build a tribal druid deck (my first tribal actually) around Kamahl, Fist of Krosa and I'd really appreciate it if I could have suggestions for cards that synergize with the Tribal theme and druids, while at the same time be able to use Kamahl to protect my board from wraths. My main goal to win with this deck is through token-producing stuff like Rampaging Baloths and making from 1/1 insects to 6/6 wurms to overwhelm, and a druid tribal. This is kinda like a community building a deck thing again, so I'd appreciate it if you guys would help me out.
In my meta I face an Oona, Queen of the Fae mill/exile, a Kaalia of the Vast aggro beats, an Olivia Voldaren goodstuff and a Hanna, Ship's Navigator proliferate artifact deck.
EDIT: I came up with a rough list. Did I miss out any key cards or auto-includes?
1x Chameleon Colossus
1x Gilt-Leaf Archdruid
1x Seedguide Ash
1x Baru, Fist of Krosa
1x Citanul Woodreaders
1x Civic Wayfinder
1x Arashi, the Sky Asunder
1x Patron of the Orochi
1x Eternal Witness
1x Living Hive
1x Seedborn Muse
1x Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
1x Silklash Spider
1x Brawn
1x Nullmage Advocate
1x Krosan Restorer
1x Seton, Krosan Protector
1x Zoologist
1x Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
1x Yavimaya Elder
1x Citanul Hierophants
1x Verdant Force
1x Llanowar Elves
1x Farhaven Elf
1x Ant Queen
1x Wolfbriar Elemental
1x Terastodon
1x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1x Mul Daya Channelers
1x Ondu Giant
1x Hornet Queen
1x Adaptive Automaton
1x Krosan Grip
1x Constant Mists
1x Beast Within
1x Noxious Revival
Planeswalker (1)
1x Garruk Wildspeaker
Sorcery (11)
1x Harmonize
1x Recollect
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Explosive Vegetation
1x Crush of Wurms
1x Desert Twister
1x Rampant Growth
1x Howl of the Night Pack
1x Soul's Majesty
1x Cultivate
1x Genesis Wave
Enchantment (10)
1x Eyes of the Wisent
1x Centaur Glade
1x Vernal Bloom
1x Gaea's Touch
1x Mana Reflection
1x Helix Pinnacle
1x Beastmaster Ascension
1x Awakening Zone
1x Asceticism
1x Parallel Lives
29x Forest
1x Mosswort Bridge
1x Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
1x Temple of the False God
1x Treetop Village
1x Strip Mine
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
1x Khalni Garden
1x Mystifying Maze
Artifact (7)
1x Gauntlet of Power
1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Oblivion Stone
1x Eldrazi Monument
1x Caged Sun
1x Swiftfoot Boots