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  • posted a message on [Basic Game] [#70] Innistrad Mafia - Game Over: Triumph of Cruelty
    This post is why I bussed Maokun. Read the part about me with the knowledge that we're both scum in this game and were both town in KotH

    Quote from Maokun
    This is my promised update on my take on everyone's lean, but first, a message of social interest:

    Quote from Phoenix Sun Rise
    Quote from infectiousbaloth
    Yes, PSR should full-claim since he is at L-2.


    I refuse to claim.


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    Circumstantially this feels like a town answer. I've never felt surer of a KK lynch than I do now.


    Yes. This, so much this. Let us think about this carefully: If PSR were scum, now it would be the perfect time to present a false/safe/whatever claim; totally warranted and in fact, requested, she could definitely help her case. A town only has things to lose by claiming, on the other hand: if she's a power role, she'd be signing her death sentence for tonight. If she's vanilla, not claiming may make scum suspect she has a power role and NK her, so sparing a true PR. I'm not going to say it's definite proof of townness, but it is definitely pro-town behaviour.

    Quote from EtR
    Welcome to Rhand.

    I think refusing to claim is anti-town. The only reason that claiming is a formality is so we don't lynch power roles by mistake. Refusing to claim, in my opinion, means VT or scum. I'm pretty comfortable with a PSR lynch now.

    Hi town IB Dance


    And here we have our now very expected post of EtR jumping in to contradict common sense with the feeling of his gut... which seems to be quite enamoured with KK (maybe he's a great cook?)



    Anyway onto my update (first post of this kind may be found here:

    Heavy Scum Lean
    KosaKosa: He was already in my scum list back then (around midpoint from the start of the game) and he has been very steadfastly inching his way up on my scum scale. I've seriously been trying to find holes in my own reasoning but then he helpfully makes another scum-stinking post and I'm left wondering why do I bother.
    EtR: I had a pretty null read on The Dark passenger but since EtR arrived, he's been strenuously defending KK with nothing but a-priori statements that are backed but by the feeling of his gut -as he had to admit- in lieu of any substantial evidence. At the same time, he's been pushing an anti-PSR agenda that seems but a desperate effort to distract from a KK's lynch and that has almost as little foundation as his KK case.

    Scum Lean
    Truk: He basically disappeared from the map following the KK debacle -maybe he blames himself for causing it or was fearing to become smeared by the spillover? I guess that since scum can only communicate at night he had no way to know that KK would fall so absurdly for what seemed like a trap for nooby town PRs. He's no longer my prime suspect as he was in my previous dossier (mostly because now I have better suspects,) but I sure as hell haven't forgotten the reasons why I initially suspected him. It's unfortunate that TEIN had to join basically in AFK mode.
    iPot: Back then, iPot's posts seemed erratic and purposeless to me and I just shrugged my shoulders rather than try to pry any lean from that. However, since EtR arrived, he seems to have found his way -which is subtly agree with him on most things. Whether this is because he's scum too or just because he truly believes EtR to be town and right is left to see, but since EtR is a strong scum lean for me, I'm suspecting iPot a bit too now.

    50%/50%
    PhoenixSunRise: In my previous post I said: "Some of his actions at the beginning seemed scummy but his posts have been great ever since, seems quite clever and aware. If scum, a great danger, if town, a great asset." This keeps being true almost exactly today as then. She sometimes has some posts that make me raise an eyebrow, but then some really clear, pro-town posts that set back my doubts. Right now, I'd say she's 51% town in my eyes.
    IB: Dammit, if I hadn't have a fresh experience dealing with him, I'd put him on the scum lean because posts that are basically a random quote and then saying "Hi town" or "Scum. Vote" are super unhelpful to town in my opinion as they provide 0 information and make him appear as though he can see things that others can't but should agree with him anyway. However, now I know that's his playstyle even when he's town so I'm trying really hard to keep an open mind about him.
    Rhand: I previously had a null read on HnS but afterwards he kept acting like a classical town noob. However, now he's been replaced, and Rhand swinging at first going by "his gut" following EtR's ways forces me to reconsider whatever town points HnS had gained in my eyes.

    Town lean
    MzztrTetris: Perhaps a bit overzealous, but definitely pro-town in all his posts. my opinion on him hasn't changed much.

    Heavy Town Lean
    The Most Curious Thing: I think we can all agree here?

    Null Read
    jdisawesomesauce: Most likely he'll be replaced. Let's hope he'll be the last one.
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  • posted a message on [Basic Game] [#70] Innistrad Mafia - Game Over: Triumph of Cruelty
    Good game, everyone. I bussed Maokun pretty hard because he implicated me as scum and I had to wash that off. I'll link the post later. Well played by everyone, especially Rhand.
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  • posted a message on [Basic Game] [#70] Innistrad Mafia - Game Over: Triumph of Cruelty
    Quote from KittyCupCake
    Quote from Wessel
    Or KCC, shall we lynch Shark first? I mean, I know you are less than certain on him

    That's a bit of an understatement. I am absolutely not voting for Shark. -Like ever.


    Is it wrong that I picture you singing this in a Taylor Swift-esque way?
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  • posted a message on [Basic Game] [#71] Unseen University Mafia - Day 3 - Age Before Beardy
    I can really get behind Iso being his crazy self. At the same token, McDo's posts are horrendous, bus as I've proven countless times, I can't read noobs.
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  • posted a message on [Basic Game] [#70] Innistrad Mafia - Game Over: Triumph of Cruelty
    I'm on board with a Shark lynch. I really have nothing to contribute. I'm so sorry that this had to happen at end game. But seriously, go back and re-read my Maokun case. In what world does that even make sense as a bus attempt?

    unvote; vote shark
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  • posted a message on [Basic Game] [#70] Innistrad Mafia - Game Over: Triumph of Cruelty
    Hi, I've mentioned that my new job has killed my time and that's why I'm "active lurking". Between college classes and work, I'm essentially not replacing out because if I do, DRey would not only be hard pressed to find a replacement, but his policy of modkilling the character after 2 replacements would autowin the game for the scum team.

    My gut says Shark is scum, and unless I can find some spare time soon, I've really only got that to go on.
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  • posted a message on [Normal Game] Famous Historical Figure Mafia (FHF) Game Over - Townie Victory!!!!
    Quote from swishh
    IB you're saying there's a doc, a town backup, and a doc backup?

    Quote from Rhand
    No and no.
    Why those questions?


    Because the only reason it wouldn't matter if you had another chance to prove your alignment is if (1) you were getting lynched today or (2) your alignment had already been proven.


    Assuming your claim is truthful? Yes, that's what my role PM says: town backup doctor.
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  • posted a message on [Normal Game] Famous Historical Figure Mafia (FHF) Game Over - Townie Victory!!!!
    Um yes. I'm the doc. That is a concern to me.
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  • posted a message on [Normal Game] Famous Historical Figure Mafia (FHF) Game Over - Townie Victory!!!!
    Ngo Dinh Diem town backup doctor, which makes me the town doctor now. Word.

    unvote; vote Voxx
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  • posted a message on [Basic Game] [#70] Innistrad Mafia - Game Over: Triumph of Cruelty
    Hi. I'm here, but I still don't have anything resembling a case. Interactions point to EtR and Kank for the remaining two scum, Meta tells me Eron is likely not scum. I can't find much for iPot/Shark being scum except for PoE.
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  • posted a message on [Basic Game] [#70] Innistrad Mafia - Game Over: Triumph of Cruelty
    Having read over some of Eron's posts, there may be something there, but it's largely based on the theory that Eron and Maokun decided early on to distance from one another. It's loose, and I've still got to read Kank and KCC again. I've got a ton of homework to still do (after finishing what ended up as a 13 page literature review) so I'm done for the night.
    I've got free time tomorrow.
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  • posted a message on [Basic Game] [#71] Unseen University Mafia - Day 3 - Age Before Beardy
    I did not invoke the vig, I was saying that your suggestion that if there is a vig for the vig to vig you (can I say vig again?) is inane because there would not be a vig, a bulletproof, a bodyguard, and a cop in a basic. I am more willing to bite on a bodyguard claim from a total noob, and I wouldn't put it past scumIso to run a gambit where he claims bulletproof to get the town protective role lynched.
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