Can this deck be played well without depths, willows, and tabernacle? I'm having a hard time finding those.
Yes, no and NO. You can replace Depths by Creeping Tar Pit. You need Grove to recur Punishing Fire. And please, don't play the deck without a Tabernacle because this card is a powerhouse.
Seems a solid keep to me. How would you play it out in the following situations?
(1) Lands on the play.
(2) Lands on the draw. Opponent plays T1 Scalding Tarn, pass.
(3) Lands on the draw. Opponent plays T1 Scalding Tarn, fetch Volcanic Island, casts Delver of Secrets.
Questions:
My real question is where the main priority is -- resolving Exploration or getting the Loam engine churning a turn earlier?
Am I correct that Crop Rotation should be held back to fill a need later? Or is it worth burning early for immediate additional Loam targets and colored-mana insurance, while leaving the reactive role to Intuition?
Thank you in advance!
1) Port, Mox, Loam
2) Port, Mox, Loam. If they play counters, play Exploration Daze and Pierce proof. If they play combo, keep Crop for DD/Stage or Bojuka Bog.
3) Waste, Mox, Loam. Play Exploration Daze and Pierce proof, no need to rush it. If UWR/RUG, Rotating for Tabernacle seems good. If UR, Rotating for Chasm seems better. Be careful with these light lands hand however, your Loam can be denied by soft counters a few turns enough for Delver to become a real threat.
Generally, you don't want to rush Exploration into soft-counters. And you don't want to play Exploration if you have no lands to follow.
I know this sounds like a very weird question for this deck, but what do you do when you can't draw anything but (non-useful) lands? I've tested a handful of games where I draw maybe a Port or Wasteland or two to buy time, but no business at all and no way to find it.
There is a powerful thing called mulligan. You should use it ^^
Granted, since you pick the cards out of the pack that you take one at a time it can easily make a Lurking Automaton 15/15 which is kinda ridiculous. In addition, you could pass a strong pack to someone and possibly knock them out of the drafting round. I like it, and think this is my favourite of the draft specific cards. It adds a fair amount of complexity without causing the memory issues of some of the other cards.
People trying to combo it with Lore Seeker or Lurking Automaton, I though there was only one draft affecting card per pack. How do you intend to do what you are describing?
On another note, what do you think of Commune with the gods in place of Intuition? It can dig for Exploration, and fill your graveyard with lands and potentially Loam in the first turns of the game. Ok it is pretty random compared to Intuition as it only digs 5 instead of your library but this could lead to a more enchantment based list like:
I have been playing this for a couple weeks. I've dropped blue completely so no Tolaria West. List is Gwrb but I did't managed to find room for Crop and feel like I am missing a way to tutor a specific answer at a particular time like Glacial Chasm or Tabernacle. Recycle is a nice draw engine, but each time I played it I decked myself or won with less than 5 cards in my library Not sure about Moat neither.
Man, every time I see Dredge do well I always think the deck is the coolest thing ever, rebuild my Dredge deck, goldfish it and get excited, take it to my weekly LGS Legacy tourney...
And promptly get matched up with either RIP-Helm Miracles or some guy with seven pieces of graveyard hate.
I agree with the commentators, though. Now's a great time to be playing Dredge or Reanimator.
Why is it a great time to play Dredge/Reanimator?
Because people think Deathrite Shamane is enought as grave hate when it is not. See the Dredge vs. Bug coverage where Bug has a lone Surgical and a lone Cage in Sideboard.
Capitalizing on your opponent being "dumb" feels like cheating to me..
I'm sure that's how every merchant feels when they trade a service or a product with you. It's completely voluntary. Sam didn't force you or blackmail you into doing anything, he simply asked a question. That's not the same as stacking a deck or doing some strange shuffles. To me, arranging your deck instead of randomizing your deck, that's cheating.
Again, we as the out-sider certainly can speculate what's in Sam Black's mind. We are not Sam. In an alternative universe, you can do a mock trial and get the lawyers to do cross-examination on Sam, but we cannot be mind-readers. The concrete evidence suggested that Sam asked the question, James fell for it.
James got next-leveled. I don't see this as cheating.
4.8. Unsporting Conduct — Cheating
Definition
A person breaks a rule defined by the tournament documents, lies to a tournament official, or notices an offense
committed in his or her (or a teammate's) match and does not call attention to it. Check.
Additionally, the offense must meet the following criteria for it to be considered Cheating:
• The player must be attempting to gain advantage from his or her action. Check.
• The player must be aware that he or she is doing something illegal. Check.
And please don't tell me Black was not aware of the situation..
In that second game of elves vs nic fit, what's the justification behind killing the teeg at that particular moment, when you aren't planning on casting any spells just yet other than a craterhoof for the win? Teeg is always in your favor if you don't have anything to cast that it's preventing.
Absolutely none. Black was still distracted by how he illegally stole the previous game
Wow major sam black cheating. No way he didnt know that because he had to combo off till the very end. Absolutely despicable. Probably get slapped on the wrist.
It's Not cheating. Sam DID ASK his opponent and his opponent answered incorrectly, creating an incorrect board state. Is it a shady Baiting? Yes. It's also James Hammes' fault for being careless, he could have look at his graveyard, staring at his Deed, before he could answer.
Capitalizing on your opponent being "dumb" feels like cheating to me..
Wow major sam black cheating. No way he didnt know that because he had to combo off till the very end. Absolutely despicable. Probably get slapped on the wrist.
Yeah I don't know what to think about that. Black attacking for the win with a elf that was obviously summoning sick. But his opponent agreed that it was not so...
Nice to see a SB with Thief and Drownyard.
Limited Resources does nothing if not back up by recursive Wasteland.
Yes, no and NO. You can replace Depths by Creeping Tar Pit. You need Grove to recur Punishing Fire. And please, don't play the deck without a Tabernacle because this card is a powerhouse.
1) Port, Mox, Loam
2) Port, Mox, Loam. If they play counters, play Exploration Daze and Pierce proof. If they play combo, keep Crop for DD/Stage or Bojuka Bog.
3) Waste, Mox, Loam. Play Exploration Daze and Pierce proof, no need to rush it. If UWR/RUG, Rotating for Tabernacle seems good. If UR, Rotating for Chasm seems better. Be careful with these light lands hand however, your Loam can be denied by soft counters a few turns enough for Delver to become a real threat.
Generally, you don't want to rush Exploration into soft-counters. And you don't want to play Exploration if you have no lands to follow.
There is a powerful thing called mulligan. You should use it ^^
Pulverize can also be played T2.
People trying to combo it with Lore Seeker or Lurking Automaton, I though there was only one draft affecting card per pack. How do you intend to do what you are describing?
Sneak Show playing T2 SnT into Emrakul vs. Reanimator dropping Griselbrand <3
That is some serious Magic <3
He wrote a report on The Source: http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?4020-Deck-43-Lands&p=806764&viewfull=1#post806764
On another note, what do you think of Commune with the gods in place of Intuition? It can dig for Exploration, and fill your graveyard with lands and potentially Loam in the first turns of the game. Ok it is pretty random compared to Intuition as it only digs 5 instead of your library but this could lead to a more enchantment based list like:
3 Enlightened Tutor
2 Humility
1 The Abyss
1 Moat
1 Recycle
1 Nether Void
with an heavy creatures sideboard like:
4 Dark Confidant
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
3 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Primeval Titan
I have been playing this for a couple weeks. I've dropped blue completely so no Tolaria West. List is Gwrb but I did't managed to find room for Crop and feel like I am missing a way to tutor a specific answer at a particular time like Glacial Chasm or Tabernacle. Recycle is a nice draw engine, but each time I played it I decked myself or won with less than 5 cards in my library
Simply brainstorming here, feedback welcomed
Because people think Deathrite Shamane is enought as grave hate when it is not. See the Dredge vs. Bug coverage where Bug has a lone Surgical and a lone Cage in Sideboard.
4.8. Unsporting Conduct — Cheating
Definition
A person breaks a rule defined by the tournament documents, lies to a tournament official, or notices an offense
committed in his or her (or a teammate's) match and does not call attention to it. Check.
Additionally, the offense must meet the following criteria for it to be considered Cheating:
• The player must be attempting to gain advantage from his or her action. Check.
• The player must be aware that he or she is doing something illegal. Check.
And please don't tell me Black was not aware of the situation..
Absolutely none. Black was still distracted by how he illegally stole the previous game
Capitalizing on your opponent being "dumb" feels like cheating to me..
Yeah I don't know what to think about that. Black attacking for the win with a elf that was obviously summoning sick. But his opponent agreed that it was not so...