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  • posted a message on Token Power Redux - trading in all my dollars
    KJ, funny, I was thinking the same about your comment.

    Like... since when should town not listen to dead townies? Are you advocating we just ignore everything Shadow and Cantrip said?
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  • posted a message on Token Power Redux - trading in all my dollars
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Yes. Osie was referencing Shadows reads. And Cantrips reads.

    Why does that matter?


    Why do reads of dead townies matter? Is that your question?
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  • posted a message on Token Power Redux - trading in all my dollars
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    You were also one of the strongest scumreads of a dead strong conf-town player, and hard scumread the other dead strong conf-town player.


    This is the quote you were responding to. Osie wasn't saying, "They killed Shadow because X", Osie was saying dead townie Shadow suspected you. And you answered with "Dead townies don't matter".

    Probably Rhand if I had to guess, given it seemed he was trying to push me weirdly yesterday for outing the "gambit" and laying off when he saw no traction from others based on that.
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  • posted a message on Token Power Redux - trading in all my dollars
    "Dead town don't matter" was your quote.

    As far as voting, I am still annoyed I ended up losing Secret Agent in part for not just pushing Eco when I got the feeling he was scum late Day.

    The fact that scum haven't jumped on to hammer makes me feel pretty good about my vote.
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  • posted a message on Token Power Redux - trading in all my dollars
    KJ, sure, but that is different than not listening to dead townies.

    And like 99% sure Anak was the one Shadow shot, so yeah.
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  • posted a message on Token Power Redux - trading in all my dollars
    I don't mind claiming. I am the motivator and held my shot last Night per the agreement I fire toNight.
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  • posted a message on Token Power Redux - trading in all my dollars
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    Vote Killjoy

    Dead town don't matter? Are you kidding me? That's the defense you are going with? Holy cow.
    It's wine. Do you really wanna debate "Did I kill Cantrip"? Because again it's wine.


    It isn't about the death of Shadow. It is that dead town Shadow suspected you for various reasons. Are you saying we shouldn't listen to what dead townies have said?
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  • posted a message on Token Power Redux - trading in all my dollars
    Vote Killjoy

    Dead town don't matter? Are you kidding me? That's the defense you are going with? Holy cow.
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Night 2 - Ignazio Ignited
    AUGH holy cow GJ has frigging 16 pages. F'ing hell.
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Night 2 - Ignazio Ignited
    @Tom, reading Mind's ISO, and you said you hated his read on Rhand/Etr. Could you explain why? Also, in Secret Agent you were sure that Rhand was scum and you were wrong there. Do you just not let mistakes bother you, or what?

    Anak's reads list doesn't have any strong scum or town reads, which feels off. Lean here, lean there.

    @Anak, you had a townlean on Vez. Is his jump on you enough to make you scumread him suddenly?

    Sir Chris can inherit DV's towny read. I played some game recently where Sir Chris was scum, he jumped onto me for something and I attacked him, and then he tried to placate me. Don't see him doing that this game with Tom. He's far more of a "DGAF, who runs the world? Sir Chris" mode here.

    Gonna reread GJ/Osie next.
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Night 2 - Ignazio Ignited
    PTAP, been reading along but not much time to pos.

    @Osie, let's say your slot is town. You need a viable counter wagon. Who is it?

    @Hr, why would scum KJ town claim GF so early when GF looked like a potential mislynch? Also, no but there's seemingly no traction for a Kami lynch.

    GJ/Osie slot and Tom definitely unaligned.

    Rod, you think Tom is town, but instead of going after people on his wagon, you shade me for calling it a bad wagon. Interesting tactic there. What do you think about the votes on his wagon?

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  • posted a message on Token Power Redux - trading in all my dollars
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    KJ - Hasn't done much apart from call out Cantrip's read on him and not pay attention to the game in whole. I don't see solving.


    Seriously, though? I don't think you're giving him enough credit here.


    Eh, just did a quick reread. You're right he is doing stuff, but it didnt really start until Page 3.

    Page 3 he gets into why he thinks Rhand is scummy, then...post 120 he implies Shadow is scummy, but I don't see that anywhere else. It kinda pops up out of nowhere. Then he reinforces it 127. Then, just to make sure, he re-reinforces it 133.

    Then more recently, just derping all over the place.

    Seemingly not caring about the mechanics feels weird for KJ, who I think is a good player and I would expect to pay more attention. And the sudden scum read on shadow throws me more.

    One thing I picked up: highly doubt that Rhand and KJ are aligned. I could see KJ'S separation being bussy, but Rhand's responses don't give me that vibe.
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Night 2 - Ignazio Ignited
    Quote from Rodemy »
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    @Rodemy, like... 90% of Tom's posts? Where is the case on Tom? Show me Tom misrepping, or going after confirmed townies, etc etc


    Nono, you don’t get to use a throw away percentage like that. I ask for specific posts. Plz and thank you.


    I will try to find some town!Tom posts tomorrow when I have time. In the meantime, feel free to find scum!Tom posts.
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  • posted a message on Token Power Redux - trading in all my dollars
    @Rhand,
    TOWN
    Me - Duh
    Shadow - I think his response to Osie's claim was towny. If he was sccum, I think he jumps on Osie for claiming right after he said not to.
    Osie - Miller claim which for now is fine treat as towny, and pretty talkative. Scum likely just accepts my townread without challenging? *shrug*
    Cantrip - Feels like town Cantrip from Secret Agent, if a bit calmer. Not familiar with Cantrip's scum game. @Cantrip, do you play differently as scum if your opinion?
    Anak - Pretty null. Need to see more, and w I'll move down if there isn't more.
    Rhand - Not sure why he harped on my post after I explained it. Feels like a reason to push me after widely townread Osie said Rhand and I were his scumreads. I could be OMGUS'ing, but scum lean so far.
    KJ - Hasn't done much apart from call out Cantrip's read on him and not pay attention to the game in whole. I don't see solving.
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  • posted a message on Death in the Family - Night 2 - Ignazio Ignited
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Quote from LnGrrrR »
    @Rodemy, like... 90% of Tom's posts? Where is the case on Tom? Show me Tom misrepping, or going after confirmed townies, etc etc
    FTR that's not how scumtom would really play the game, I don't think. Scumtom likes to do a lot of the thnigs town tom does, except he doesn't actually wanna solve the game, but wants to psudosolve and drive lynches. If you're looking for Rod to come up with this, it's gonna be either tom not actually doing that, or it's gonna be a huge stretch.

    Just my two cents here.


    But town Tom solves and drives lynches. So without flipped scum... how do you determine he is scum?

    You were one of the votes on that wagon who I am 99% sure is town. Convince me what makes him not town this game.
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