Quote from bLatchBUT, what you are failing to see is that we (the "shouldn't" group) think the best way to address the situation is to correct the thinking first, and THEN build the cultural center. By doing it the other way around, you are pissing someone off and only making your purported goal harder to accomplish.
Look you JUST, RIGHT HERE, admitted you are twisting my posts and discarding my points... why should I debate with you? You aren't interested in a rational debate or an exchange of ideas...
You aren't pointing out where my reasoning is flawed by twisting what I say and calling me a racist. If you have to use racist logic yourself to twist what I said into some semblance of racism, then you are be a giant hypocrite.
No, I meant not all Arabs are Muslims. You took my statements about a specific sub-group of Muslims and tried to claim I was being racist against all Arabs (or in your words, brown people.) I was pointing out that in no way was my comment about a sub group of Muslims a comment on Arab people, and the only way someone could see it in that light would be to be a giant racist.
Yes, it would be offensive. (I am consistent). I guess I'll address point 4 next, since I pretty much jsut destroyed your point 3.
I never said he was doing it purely to upset people. I said he's (supposedly) trying to build a cultural outreach to reach out to the surrounding culture. The surrounding culture that his actions are knowingly offending. He's either monumentally stupid, or he's intentionally antagonizing the very people he claims to be trying to reach out to. by all accounts he's not monumentally stupid.
? You started out by calling me a racist. I pointed out that you were twisting what I said, and only by the use of that twisting and racist logic could you come to the conclusion that wahat I said was somehow racist. You then agreed with me that that is waht you were doing.
And now you're upset that I pointed it out?
The big difference is that no one is saying muslims can't build mosques. We're only saying they shouldn't build one near Groud Zero. That's all. It's not about racism or having anythign against Islam. It's just about pointing out this is a very sensitive location to pull a stunt like that.
1) why are you so obsessed with calling me a racist? I haven't said anything racist and yet you are consistently digging in everything I say trying to find something you can twist into me beign racist?
2) Not all arabic people are muslims. If I'm talking about muslims I'm not necessarily talking about arabic people. (Now whos being racist?)
3) If I'm talking about a specific sub-group of muslims (in this case the grou erecting the cultural center) I'm not talking about all muslims, I'm talking about the sub group.
4) Theres no question in my mind that he knew it is an antagonistic move to build an islamic cultural center where he plans on building it. That makes it an intentional action, and therefore he is being "intentionally antagonistic."
In Sum: You're digging through everything I say looking for something you can twist into something else so you can call me a racist and thereby discard my (valid) points without addressing them. In order to do this you are having to apply racist logic yourself. You are not only being a poor debater, you are also being a hypocrite.