Mistvein Borderpost's alt cost for mana fixing without duel lands might work well.
I am kind of surprised you don't run a few tutors. I think it would help being able to grab the thing that would shut down a deck that is giving you problems. I know Mindlock Orb is intended to shut down Tutors but maybe add Lim-Dûl's Vault which doesn't "search" the library.
This deck is well built for what it does but seems like it would do better one v one rather them Multiplayer. I know it's very strongly control but still controlling 3 + people would be more challenging. I'm also not sure how liked this deck would be. Possibly wining you the game but it might lose you 3 + friends :p.
But still I don't know what to take out to put Painful Quandary in
I think I will add Liliana of the Veil once she drops some. I think I would use her to replace Slaughter Pact as creature removal. I just wish her -2 ability read each player sac a creature. I do also like her +1 ability and that it is all players. I think most of the time she would become creature removal but I know flexibility is good in EDH.
Some other people suggested Copy Enchantment and I think it would be good in the deck (would still like to play test it to be 100% sold). Again I don't know what to remove.
A lot of the rest of the deck is things that support the wheel effects and Tutors that can get the wheel effects.
I am not running infinite win combos (I use to, but have come to realize how lame they are) I am also not trying to make everyone start top decking with mono discard (and hate me for it) the only exception is Myojin of Night's Reach which is too good not to run. I can use Myojin as a bluff not to attack me and I can potently kill a player if a discard punisher is out
Commander Gwendlyn Di Corci
I don't always cast my Commander but when i do i prefer Gwendlyn Di Corci
Jokes aside Gwendlyn really isn't necessarily to cast for this deck. Just something to do with extra mana.
I am kind of surprised you don't run a few tutors. I think it would help being able to grab the thing that would shut down a deck that is giving you problems. I know Mindlock Orb is intended to shut down Tutors but maybe add Lim-Dûl's Vault which doesn't "search" the library.
This deck is well built for what it does but seems like it would do better one v one rather them Multiplayer. I know it's very strongly control but still controlling 3 + people would be more challenging. I'm also not sure how liked this deck would be. Possibly wining you the game but it might lose you 3 + friends :p.
Oppression seems alright but I would probably rather run Bottomless Pit for the random once a turn aspect or Painful Quandary. I would lean towards Painful Quandary because with Liliana's Caress on the field it becomes if you play a spell lose 5 life or discard a card and lose 2 life.
But still I don't know what to take out to put Painful Quandary in
I think I will add Liliana of the Veil once she drops some. I think I would use her to replace Slaughter Pact as creature removal. I just wish her -2 ability read each player sac a creature. I do also like her +1 ability and that it is all players. I think most of the time she would become creature removal but I know flexibility is good in EDH.
Some other people suggested Copy Enchantment and I think it would be good in the deck (would still like to play test it to be 100% sold). Again I don't know what to remove.
Thanks for the input.
A lot of the rest of the deck is things that support the wheel effects and Tutors that can get the wheel effects.
I am not running infinite win combos (I use to, but have come to realize how lame they are) I am also not trying to make everyone start top decking with mono discard (and hate me for it) the only exception is Myojin of Night's Reach which is too good not to run. I can use Myojin as a bluff not to attack me and I can potently kill a player if a discard punisher is out
Commander Gwendlyn Di Corci
I don't always cast my Commander but when i do i prefer Gwendlyn Di Corci
Jokes aside Gwendlyn really isn't necessarily to cast for this deck. Just something to do with extra mana.
1 Abyssal Nocturnus
1 Barbed Shocker
1 Consecrated Sphinx
1 Dragon Mage
1 Guiltfeeder
1 Gwendlyn Di Corci
1 Jace's Archivist
1 Kederekt Parasite
1 Magus of the Jar
1 Myojin of Night's Reach
1 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
1 Psychosis Crawler
1 Sangromancer
1 Sygg, River Cutthroat
Planeswalker (3)
1 Chandra Ablaze
1 Liliana Vess
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Sorcery (11)
1 Beseech the Queen
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Decree of Pain
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Ill-Gotten Gains
1 Incendiary Command
1 Increasing Ambition
1 Reforge the Soul
1 Urza's Guilt
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Windfall
Instant (11)
1 Comet Storm
1 Counterspell
1 Crosis's Charm
1 Evacuation
1 Forbid
1 Lim-Dul's Vault
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Perplex
1 Dream Salvage
1 Terminate
1 Wheel and Deal
1 Copy Enchantment
1 Bloodchief Ascension
1 Dissipation Field
1 Liliana's Caress
1 Megrim
1 No Mercy
1 Phyrexian Tyranny
1 Propaganda
1 Psychic Possession
1 Spiteful Visions
1 Underworld Dreams
1 Wound Reflection
Artifact (9)
1 Anvil of Bogardan
1 Coalition Relic
1 Geth's Grimoire
1 Library of Leng
1 Memory Jar
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Thran Dynamo
Land (40)
1 Bojuka Bog
1 City of Brass
1 Command Tower
1 Creeping Tar Pit
1 Crumbling Necropolis
1 Darkwater Catacombs
1 Dimir Aqueduct
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Grand Coliseum
1 Graven Cairns
2 Island
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Lavaclaw Reaches
3 Mountain
1 Rakdos Carnarium
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Rupture Spire
1 Spinerock Knoll
1 Sulfur Falls
1 Sulfurous Springs
1 Sunken Ruins
6 Swamp
1 Temple of the False God
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Underground River
1 Vivid Crag
1 Vivid Creek
1 Vivid Marsh
Inspired by http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXUR7BQqRtY
Cards I own that I'm thinking about adding but don't know if I should / what to replace
Cards that I'm looking to acquire for the deck
Change Log
- Teferi's Puzzle Box + Gilded Lotus
- Island + Minamo, School at Water's Edge
- Slaughter Pact + Copy Enchantment
I would really appreciate advice on what I should cut / add.
please critique and comment