Took a break from buying/selling back in June, and when I went to check some stuff on SCG today, prices were displayed... weird. Like they were on sale, but their regular price.
SCG has always priced cards ending in .99 or .49, but its not showing up like that. Is that something on my end, or did they change something?
Someone's offering $432 for the following. I'm thinking I'll do it.
2x NM Scalding Tarn $45
1 SP Scalding Tarn $40
3 Misty Rainforest $40
3x Arid Mesa $30
4x Verdant Catacombs
Flooded Strand
Marsh Flats
unless I could do better on Ebay or with trade . But honestly 430 in my Paypal now is really tempting
This looks pretty good. I'd do it.
Edit: Well, I miscounted on value; TCGMid is much higher than what you're getting (roughly $490). However, you're probably not gonna get that, partly due to fees and probably having to sell for more around TCGLow, so I think this deal is fine. Adding it up at TCGLow, you're getting it better than that by about $10 or so.
So he's getting TCG Mid minus 15% or so. How is that not a good deal?
It has always been my view that the forced legacy on Sunday to get your invitational points was crippling the series as a whole due to the price of entry being not just 1x standard deck = $500 but also 1x legacy deck which (if you want to win a serious tourny) will set you back 1000s.
700 people for standard and 300 for legacy? When they have to pay for staff and venue? It doesn't make smart financial sense to them.
SCG is slowly transitioning away from legacy. The player base just can't grow when the cost of entry is so high. P Sullivan might get super excited over it but many people simply aren't rich enough to play it even if they wanted to and that means they're not going to bother playing the standard portion either because you have to play both to get IQ points to go to the championship.
Although I'm not saying anything that you don't know, just selling a FOIL Japanese Polluted Delta and a Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale at a Legacy Open is probably 50% of what they sell during the Standard Open (although I know obviously that Legacy players also buy on Saturday).
It's not just what money they get in attendance. I've noticed an uptick the past half year in pimping out Legacy staples and it is incredibly expensive. I myself was spending quite a bit and selling other format's cards for it. I noticed that many FOIL staples have continued to go up until just around 3 months ago. Still, there are players who have 70% of their decks pimped and SCG Opens is a good place to get the final 30% when they have the funds. SCG makes a killing on these sales, much more than selling a Murderous Cut for $2.
It's all about inventory turnover, though. SCG is on record saying they'd rather sell 10 $10 cards than 1 $100 card. Also, they get to buy lower priced cards for a lower percentage.
I disagree completely, but I can see where you're coming from. I doubt there are more than a dozen Legacy players out of Australia so you know, what do you care about the format. It's probably like how I see Vintage - uber expensive cards solely for vintage and if I do build a deck, I can compete once every two years when the GP rolls into town...in a side event.
Legacy as a format isn't going anywhere. Legacy prices aren't going anywhere but up in the future. I'm not sweating this latest announcement and the ones who are are a little stupid. Nobody was maintaining a legacy deck to play in 2 or 3 SCG events that they can drive to easily a year and maybe earn a few IQ points...except maybe the 10 people who care about IQ points in a year. They're maintaining a legacy deck because they like to play legacy or have a large collection that happen to have those cards in them. It's a fun format and I'm tired of people saying it's expensive so let's kill it. I also don't care that legacy isn't growing as fast as broad Magic appeal. This is natural, due to the limited cards and the higher level of play and knowledge required to compete.
It has always been my view that the forced legacy on Sunday to get your invitational points was crippling the series as a whole due to the price of entry being not just 1x standard deck = $500 but also 1x legacy deck which (if you want to win a serious tourny) will set you back 1000s.
700 people for standard and 300 for legacy? When they have to pay for staff and venue? It doesn't make smart financial sense to them.
SCG is slowly transitioning away from legacy. The player base just can't grow when the cost of entry is so high. P Sullivan might get super excited over it but many people simply aren't rich enough to play it even if they wanted to and that means they're not going to bother playing the standard portion either because you have to play both to get IQ points to go to the championship.
The entire growth and price explosion of Legacy revolved around the exposure in the SCG Open Series. Prices will flatline for a while, but the writing is on the proverbial wall.
Moggcatcher is a big win, however. Moggcatcher and the related elf/merfolk counterparts will only get more powerful as more creatures of those types are printed.
I'm pretty bearish on Legacy at the moment after the new SCG announcement. It's clear that Modern is taking Legacy's place, little by little. Staples are going to drop across the board. Right now, you should be selling your Legacy holdings.
The time to sell Legacy was early this year, after the big spike. Right now, it's too late.
Edit: To clarify, I personally know people who don't play Legacy sitting on dozens of Duals are an "investment", because Legacy would "always be a supported format in the SCG opens". Well, i guess it is supported, but with no camera time.
Honestly any unlimited modern print run is probably a bad buy sealed unless you get it in a popular foreign language. There is simply way too much product printed these days to see a return to the "good old days," where buying sealed product doubled your money in a year or two.
Pretty much this. The Commander 2013 decks will still take a while to go up.
I've stated it before and I haven't changed my mind seeing the video: I won't be wasting 100$ on a product like this, too, not when 95% of it is junk (as far as money value is concerned) and I could buy the 4-5 singles I need (such as Jace's Counterspell and a couple of other utilities for less than 10$... Not to mention that building decks like Elves, Goblins or Chandra entirely to play them would cost only a few bucks...
Junk?
I didn't realize $300 worth of card value was "junk".
I already did a cost sheet on this card. The value you get in strict card worth is very high.
Unfortunately, it is local shops anyways, so we have another CA on our hands. Only winner here are the speculators and collectors. Players get shafted... again.
We all know that all this value is "false": 95% of the deck can surely be a 0.10 card each, but most players have all or most of them so you can take them as a 0.
I have just checked the prices of the singles on MKM (I'm Italian so that's the site I refer to most of the time). In Elves vs Goblins the most expensive card is Imperious Perfect, starting at 2.49 €, but you can buy the Lorwyn from 1.00 €; Jace vs Chandra has Ancestral Vision (3.20 €), Daze (2.00 €) and 2 Counterspells (1.55 €); Garruk vs Liliana has Liliana Vess (4.98 €, a much higher price than I expected because a couple of weeks ago it was about 2 €) and Garruk Wildspeaker (3.50 €), both of which can be bought for less than 2 € in another version; Divine vs Demonic has the only real pricy cards, Demonic Tutor (12.99 €) and Akroma, Angel of Wrath (6.49 €). Even leaving apart the "you-can-buy-them-in-a-less-pimped-version" speech, and the fact that some of these cards will lower their price when the box comes out, it's still less than 40$. Sure, we can give all the cards a much higher value looking at other sites even if we know that there are people selling them for much less, but I'm not going to do it just to justify why I'm gonna spend so much money on eight old (fun, but still old) decks that I could put up myself with my friends more or less for nothing...
I don't want to be unpolite with anyone, but the fact is that this price is far higher than a casual player could afford, and simply making a divided reprint of the four Duel Decks would have made a lot of people far happier...
Congrats, you found the cheapest possible site on the planet, without exception. Allow me to give you the midrange values across all registered cardshops:
I had a dream this morning that there was a timeshifted sheet (purple set symbol) in KTK block. Polluted Delta and Flooded Strand were on it. Does anyone think it's possible there will be a timeshifted sheet in this block?
Why not? The last set will be a large set. Might as well.
A contractual agreement was made when Magic:The Gathering's rights were completely sold off by Garfield Games to establish and fundamentally withhold a reserve list on printed cards to ensure the collect-ability of the game would instill the continuation of Magic:The Gathering as a lifetime game.
So why did the list go through a bunch of iterations? Makes no sense.
Took a break from buying/selling back in June, and when I went to check some stuff on SCG today, prices were displayed... weird. Like they were on sale, but their regular price.
SCG has always priced cards ending in .99 or .49, but its not showing up like that. Is that something on my end, or did they change something?
So he's getting TCG Mid minus 15% or so. How is that not a good deal?
$75 is pretty decent for today's prices.
It's all about inventory turnover, though. SCG is on record saying they'd rather sell 10 $10 cards than 1 $100 card. Also, they get to buy lower priced cards for a lower percentage.
It makes perfect sense to drop Legacy.
The entire growth and price explosion of Legacy revolved around the exposure in the SCG Open Series. Prices will flatline for a while, but the writing is on the proverbial wall.
The time to sell Legacy was early this year, after the big spike. Right now, it's too late.
Edit: To clarify, I personally know people who don't play Legacy sitting on dozens of Duals are an "investment", because Legacy would "always be a supported format in the SCG opens". Well, i guess it is supported, but with no camera time.
Pretty much this. The Commander 2013 decks will still take a while to go up.
This.
So you spend $100 to get $100 worth of cards + a bunch of chaff.
I guess it's not a bad product for collectors and completionists.
Why not? The last set will be a large set. Might as well.
So why did the list go through a bunch of iterations? Makes no sense.
He's fishing for offers.