- Iso
- Registered User
-
Member for 12 years, 9 months, and 14 days
Last active Sun, Feb, 11 2024 19:55:31
- 26 Followers
- 30,225 Total Posts
- 853 Thanks
-
1
Azrael posted a message on The Mafia Council & Helpdesk ThreadPosted in: MafiaQuote from Iso »Not sure why I'm still listed as a Mod for this sub, but
You're retired when we all say you're retired, damn it! -
1
Rhand posted a message on Sign-ups: Realm of the Elderlings Mafia (18/18) Game thread posted!Posted in: Old Sign-upsQuote from Azrael »Quote from Silvercrys3467 »Actually gonna have to /out, sorry
Good, this game has no room for weaklings.
Is that why you didn’t /in? -
1
CropCircles42 posted a message on Sign-ups: Realm of the Elderlings Mafia (18/18) Game thread posted!That reminds me.Posted in: Old Sign-ups
@GrapeyBoy: I would like a daykill in this game, please. -
1
Bur posted a message on Sign-ups: Realm of the Elderlings Mafia (18/18) Game thread posted!Posted in: Old Sign-ups -
1
Killjoy posted a message on Voldemort's Throne Room Mafia Signups | 20/20 PlayersPosted in: Old Sign-ups
This is the place to do that! Welcome to MTGS. - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
1
That's okay, we don't like that guy, anyway.
1
1
1
If you would like to keep in touch, I am Iso#5336 on Discord. I will be leaving the MTGS Mafia Discord once the site is shut down.
With regards to maintaining the community, I believe migration to a different Mafia site altogether is the most tenable option. I may pop in here and there to make a cameo in the rare, occasional game when I catch the itch, but aside from that, I'm putting Mafia behind me. I hope you all find what you're looking for.
4
2
You seem to be under some drastic misconceptions about the way Mafia and MTGS site rules operate. Let me clear this up for you (though shadow did an okay job of this on the last page).
There are three entities as far as rules are concerned within the Mafia subforum. In this way, we're a unique structure within MTGS.
1. Site Moderators+. Mods govern actions that are against site rules. Currently, shadow, Cythare, and I are the Mafia mods. We card posts that are reported or that we happen to spot that are in violation of MTGS's rules. I opt not to leave public warnings in posts, because WITHOUT FAIL, any time I did, I received multiple PMs from people whining about how one person got carded but another didn't, when the other post was not reported and I did not see it, or because the other post was not in violation of the site rules, and arguing with users about who does and doesn't deserve cards is not how I like to spend my time, and arguing with users about who does and doesn't receive cards is not their business. There is also a statue of limitations wherein if we miss a post that deserves a card after 2 weeks, we do not card it, as doing so in the past (in other parts of the site, as well) has looked like targeted Moderation and received cries of discrimination from the affected users. (Contrary top popular belief, we can not read every post on the site every day, and more often than we would like, things slip through the cracks. This is the downside of having a very human team of volunteers under whom the site is run.) I guess you misunderstood what I said when you PMed me about your reports (where if a rule was violated, I issued a card, otherwise, I declined the report), but hopefully my language here is less open for misinterpretation or ambiguity. The short version is that Mods are enforcers of site rules. We do not decide which players are and are not allowed to play Mafia. The Mafia Council does. On that note...
2. Mafia Councillors. Mafia Councillors dictate the specific rules of the subforum beyond the basic site rules. Because of the nature of Mafia, a little more leeway was requested with regards to flaming matters. There's a clear difference between calling an argument bad and calling the player making it bad. Mafia Councillors have the power to put players on probation, blacklist players, determine the Mafia Secretary/Secretaries, and implement programs (such as the Mafia League or when to run FTQs and the like), but will generally elicit feedback from the playerbase before making a decision of this nature. Mafia Councillors do not have site Moderator powers, unless that Councillor is explicitly also a site Moderator (as I was, before, and shadow is, presently.) Mafia Councillors can request that, if a player circumvents a probation or blacklist order, or is otherwise completely toxic to the playerbase, that they can be banned from Mafia, and, if that order is violated, a site suspension or ban will be issued, to be carried out by a senior staffer of MTGS Moderation. Again, MTGS staff, in this capacity, acts as an enforcer.
3. Mafia game hosts. Hosts have the ability to forcibly replace or modkill players they feel are violating the spirit of the game, or are explicitly breaking the rules set forth in their game's OP. This is in addition to whatever penalty MTGS Moderation decides to hand out per site rules, whether it be a blanket "Play nice and behave," in-thread, or carding a user, and is a completely separate decision from any site staff's intervention. Hosts and MTGS Mods can and will collaborate regarding particularly problematic users - i.e. if I see a player I've just given 2 warnings to toeing the line, I may bring it to the attention of the host so that they are aware of how that may affect their game, and they may choose to speak to the player privately, or post a warning of their own in-thread, i.e. "any further flaming will be met with modkills". Again, this is independent of MTGS staff actions.
So, to sum it up, no, nothing about the rules is "kept secret". When users sign up for MTGS, they agree to abide by the site rules. The players who are misbehaving in violation of site rules are receiving cards as they should, and are fully aware of how their actions are against the rules. Any further action regarding whether or not that player is eligible to participate in future Mafia games can and should be brought up to the Mafia Council by either the hosts of games where this player was a detriment to the enjoyability of the game overall, or by fellow players who were on the receiving end of such actions of their co-players, as that responsibility falls on them given the unorthodox nature of the way Mafia governs itself in our community.
1
1
Let's get this game back up and running!
1
1