while it's true the mafia may be trying to hit the doctor, it's also a fairly sure bet to assume they're going after those who're highlighting them - we should look at emerys' vote record, see whom he pressured. that kind of info can be valuable to the town.
i'm going to have to lend my support to notstevie here - i've voiced my concern over lynching imhungry here before, and i'm going to do it again: he just doesn't strike me as mafia. stupid townie, not mafia. it's fairly apparent as to why everyone is voting for him, he's annoying and this day has dragged on for far too long. hell, even morris is voting for him: he hit a townie last night in his investigations, and (i suppose) he just wants to finish this day. not much would be lost by lynching imhungry, but it just seems like such a throwaway move.
batman, again, is scummy - he's been lurking, and was slightly jumpy when pressured - but this seems to have been resolved a while ago.
heywould... again, i think this was resolved.
ahhh, i don't know where to go now. as notstevie said, most mafia will tend to be slightly lurkerish in this game, so we should look towards those people. (batman is now looking like a better target)
Like I said, it was really really stupid, but if u must know, I thought that MAYBE Morris, Imhungry, and Heywood were all also mafia, because morris would come out 100% confirmed townie, but then i realized, that would mean no cop, which makes no sense, bc that would mean no doctor, and no vig, which makes no sense at all, why would a blind game be a very basic setup?
i thought this was a 'no noob' game - maybe unsan was desperate?
I can think of a few reasons why BBtiger might possibly withold information. If there's a way he can safely share that information without risk, that would be wonderful, but putting a gun to his head and forcing him to reveal might not work out for the best.
Age has nothing to do with it.... All you have to do is read the daliy news (cause bushs mistakes are getting to frequent(you could read just the headlines if you dont like reading or watch the new...)). I agree ith that 100%.
Back to mafia..... has anyone heard from our new lurkers? Amnesiac,and Batman are the 2 that havent posted in a while (and I thought the lurkers returned....).
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hay look i'm an uninformed 13 year old (bush sucks LOLOLOLOL)
ON TO MAFIA: bbtigger needs to post; morris brought up a good point
Umm as for that yes both parties are corrupt but 1 is much more stupid and crazy than the other*. I want to hear why BBtiger thinks that Heywood is mafia (I have my resons and want to know his).
*Source look at who they nominate to run in these important positions.
hay look i'm an uninformed 13 year old (bush sucks LOLOLOLOL)
Calm down, guys. Play mafia and don't make personal attacks against people.
hey shut up fatface
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I hadn't added anything to my argument because I did not need to. I tried to clarify any details that might have not been clear, but that is all.
My argumant is there for everyone to see and agree with, or not.
If someone does not agree with my argument, then move on.
If they don't agree with my reasoning let them come up with their own line of reasoning, look for coroborating evidence in the posts and then present it themselves.
In fact, I encourage than to do so.
the problem is, notstevie thinks he refuted your argumentation. you should respond to his assertions in kind. otherwise, no one will take what you say seriously
HunterDuck - You must have been waiting all game to do that. I hope it felt good.
At this point in the game they are trying their best to look as much like a reasonable townie as possible WITHOUT posting anything that could be constued as scummy. That means there is going to be a lot of posts with little or no content, various attempts to engage in discussions that add nothing to the effort to really identify the mafia, lots of throw away lines, ala I was trying to figure out if Imhungry is faking, that never get followed through on and if a line of reasoning does come up that might actually help find the mafia they will subtly try to squelch it.
notstevie92 has done all these things and has on two occations tried to squelch ideas that could very well help narrow down the mafia's options.
my problem with that is that there are TOWNIES who post like that - those who're simply not as good at mafia as others, or are uninterested in the game. for whatever reason, though, it isn't a 'OMG MAFIA TELL' if someone posts without content.
ok, my opinion in this is that neither emerys or notstevie strike me as mafia: notstevie just looked like a bit of a spammer in the beginning, and now just seems generic, whereas emerys is just a... well... fanatic, i suppose. he seems like a misguided townie, and notstevie is just defending himself.
emerys, you can hardly claim every single one of your posts has been without fluff - nearly everyone (townie AND mafia) has fluff posts; there are times when one just can't think of something to add
on heywould yougivemehead: i think the way he reacted was over the top; he defenses after that were abrasive (suspiciously so), but i really can't say he's mafia. i don't want to vote - yet - but i want to keep an eye on him.
considering that you were the first person in the game to vote for rikos, i think it's working just fine ;)this is a very akward attack. as mozart might say, the hint of desparation is setting off my scumdar
since i don't believe in foses i will vote hey would you blow me
Hey im back from my trip, lots of fun, always fun in the forge
Anyways ive been thinking alot this week, are we POSITIVE that morris isnt mafia? in one of my games from before we ratted out 1 mafia to make it look like we had a cop, then we got lucky and hit their cop the next night, and the setup looked good for 2 cops. But since no one has counter-claimed morris, i believe him, i just wanted to bring that to the table.
I think it would be best to lynch imhungry, but i want the day to drag on for another RL day or two, so im gonna hold off on actually voting him until we hear from everyone else.
HR
except if we find a second cop, we'll lynch morris: this setup is not ripe for two cops (at most, there's a deputy involved)
oh and unvote imhungry; never actually thought he was scum, and morris's last few posts have confirmed that. he's just an idiot.
If you want to say lynching a townie is always bad, knock yourself out. It's not always bad.
It is almost always inevitable and since it is such an intergral part of the game I see no reason to pretend that it is anything that can be deliberately avoided with consistant success. All we can do as towns folk is to play in the most effective manner as possible. Consciously working to ensure that every post, action, fos and vote is done in such a way to ensure that the town gains information that will help identify the mafia.
This is especially true for the lynching of a townsman. The only time that lynching of a townsman is a "bad" thing is if that lynch results in no net increase of information for the town. Any lynch that results in information, either immediately or down the road, that helps to identify the mafia is a sacrifice that, imo, is worth making and as such could be considered "a good thing", or at least a "not so bad" thing. That is of course as long as it does not put us in a numbers situation that will put the towns survival in jeopardy. That is one of the reasons why early lynches of towns folk are much more common then later ones.
I am certainly not suggesting that it is a good idea to actively and/or knowingly encourage lynching a towns person. I am stating the obvious in that it is most of the time, when it happens, it is unavoidable. Understanding this allows us to use the situation to our benefit. A chess game played so that you do not lose a single piece is highly unnusual. The norm is a game where each piece that is lost is a calculated scarifice. Each sacrifice made with the intention to gain an advantage to be used to win.
I still say this statement is wrong.
you're changing your argument from 'lynching a townie is sometimes usefull'
to
'lynching a townie is sometimes not so bad'
you're also beign awfully ambiguous with the definition of the word 'bad' - lynching a townie is bad because, well, you didn't lynch mafia. the mafia is one step closer to winning the game.
that isn't to say it never happens, it's more that we should avoid it (or not do it on purpose)
sorry jesus
school just started and i'm loaded with work
but yes, yes - i'll get on it
@lurkers: goes without saying
quick imhungry note: ha, told you so. town.
batman, again, is scummy - he's been lurking, and was slightly jumpy when pressured - but this seems to have been resolved a while ago.
heywould... again, i think this was resolved.
ahhh, i don't know where to go now. as notstevie said, most mafia will tend to be slightly lurkerish in this game, so we should look towards those people. (batman is now looking like a better target)
i thought this was a 'no noob' game - maybe unsan was desperate?
whatever, i'm frustrated by this game.
is he a cop?
no.
i can't think of anything else
ON TO MAFIA: bbtigger needs to post; morris brought up a good point
hay look i'm an uninformed 13 year old (bush sucks LOLOLOLOL)
hey shut up fatface
the problem is, notstevie thinks he refuted your argumentation. you should respond to his assertions in kind. otherwise, no one will take what you say seriously
it felt very good
my problem with that is that there are TOWNIES who post like that - those who're simply not as good at mafia as others, or are uninterested in the game. for whatever reason, though, it isn't a 'OMG MAFIA TELL' if someone posts without content.
emerys, you can hardly claim every single one of your posts has been without fluff - nearly everyone (townie AND mafia) has fluff posts; there are times when one just can't think of something to add
on heywould yougivemehead: i think the way he reacted was over the top; he defenses after that were abrasive (suspiciously so), but i really can't say he's mafia. i don't want to vote - yet - but i want to keep an eye on him.
on imhungry: misguided townie.
so if he posts like a townie, he's mafia?
so, despite your PBPA... you're leaving your vote where it is. no suspicion on notstevie or anything - what?
awkward
btw, i agree with you. overreaction.
except if we find a second cop, we'll lynch morris: this setup is not ripe for two cops (at most, there's a deputy involved)
oh and unvote imhungry; never actually thought he was scum, and morris's last few posts have confirmed that. he's just an idiot.
you're changing your argument from 'lynching a townie is sometimes usefull'
to
'lynching a townie is sometimes not so bad'
you're also beign awfully ambiguous with the definition of the word 'bad' - lynching a townie is bad because, well, you didn't lynch mafia. the mafia is one step closer to winning the game.
that isn't to say it never happens, it's more that we should avoid it (or not do it on purpose)