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  • posted a message on [Primer] R/W Prisons ("Sun and Moon" etc.)
    Any new cards catch the eye?
    Posted in: Control
  • posted a message on [Deck] White Stax
    Hi.
    Err, well as a player of Parfait (tax/scrack helm deck) and White Stax I have experience of both engines.
    The main issue will be the 1cc interaction with Chalice on one, it is a total nonbo, and Chalic eon 1 is where the deck normally tries to find itself.
    The other will the the low no of plains, - just 7 make Tax pretty ropey, esp with 4 Flagstones.

    The bits of deck might not talk to each other too much, but you don't know till you try.

    If the nonbo is too much you could try treasure map as a one of, slow though it is, and horizon canopy can draw cards repeatedly too.

    Riftstone portal is worth considering- now DRS has gone portal is golddust at making tombs tap for w or g.

    The City count really should be 4 (so often I have played 3 and it always sucks, even though cities trip themselves up sometimes they normally don't), and the crucibles should probably go to 3, with Trading post down to 2- you don't want to power into posts.

    I have found PWs like Elspeth and especially karn (mini) to help the deck a lot. You might too, and you wincons are low- no humility to make the goat tokens into 1/1s, no PWs.
    Thoughtknot is worth considering- at least for the 75, and inventor's fair could work well too.
    Only 2 stack is a bit low, Brown list run 4, the white ones perhaps have less need.

    Ghost quarter is often excellent- it can target your own flagstones too as well as basics- Geddon does not always resolve, trust me.......

    Maze of ith is also unusual to drop from white builds

    Other than that the brown and white aspects are good to go- Hero has been used in some builds before to good effect, there is plenty there to work with...

    Posted in: Developing (Legacy)
  • posted a message on Static ability on walkers confirmed not war of the spark exclusive
    I welcome this, but PWs still make the game all about combat, which is for me a huge issue. Limited by necessity has to be that way, although I have won a fair few limited games where I have not attacked. One of the reasons I would rather not play Mtg than play Standard, and spend time and effort to get people to stop playing Standard, has been their relentless focus on combat/creatures and PWs for most of the past few years, and their idea that players should not feel bad about anything, such as losing energy counters, having cards or lands dissappear or even being unable to attack rather than players not feeling bad about unintentional flood or screw, which is actually understandable. Of course they probably don't care about the player feeling bad when they try and sell their Std deck at SCG prices and no-one buys until they get a tenth of what they were asking for. Most people play Standard and realise it is a money treadmill, fair enough. But why does the money treadmill exclude so many traditional aspects of Mtg?

    This new design space just encourages more PWs. If they want a static ability that goes, why not use Saga type enchantments? Why make it about combat?
    I think they have realised how dull many of their pw designs of the same walkers became. There are only so many Gideons you can see, and I think they just needed to freshen up the space....

    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Something bugs me about WAR (semi-rant inside)
    The moment a world has just one environment, I am not interested in its stories.
    Lazy, bottom of the barrel writing will inevitably follow the creation of such a "world". WOTC need to showcase their story a little less, their showcasing is the artistic equivalent of asking if people want to see something cool and then when they say yes bending over and showing everybody your hemorrhoids.
    If you try and run a game by market research, don't be surprised when the audience does not like what it says it would like.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [Deck] Pillow Fort Prison- White-X Enchantment Control
    I like Chalice. Playing artifacts is a little hard if the enemy decks pack wear tear, and it does not synergise with certain catds like Starfield or Sphere of S, but other than a very few cases there is little punishment for playing an artifact.
    Our two slot is relatively weak in terms of the volume of options available.
    Personally I run Wr and in Enduring Ideal Wu with lotus blossoms.
    I am looking at doing Wb, nominally the weakest and potentially a fun exercise and one where 1cc discard can add a different dimension....
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on Help with New Phyrexia b/g infect
    Realistically you would be hard pressed to beat anything but the bye in Legacy with this, because the format is full of decks that kill t2/3, or have significantly hurt their opponent's resources by then that they can't execute their game plan.


    Infect in Legacy is viable-
    https://www.mtgtop8.com/archetype?a=98&meta=39&f=LE
    but sadly you would need a very expensive deck.
    A "budget" version would perhaps have 5-10 dollar shock lands instead, but you would still need fetch lands, force of will- which will set you back a bit.

    Without the ability to stop unfair decks winning t2/3, or to win yourself (Legacy infect can often kill t2, although it is risky often), decks can't hope to win.
    Your deck looks fun, but would be too weak for Legacy and Modern.

    If you wanted to build a Modern or Legacy infect deck you would use the basic shell of
    8 infectors (Glistener elf, Blighted agent normally in UG)
    4 inmoth nexus
    In legacy you add the "brainstorm engine" of 1 cc card drawers and fetchlands, plus force of will, and some pump spells. Then duals or, on a budget, shocks like Breeding pool.
    In modern its basically the same, but the pump spells are different and there is no Force of Will. BG Modern infect is possible, it has been seen every now and then in the rogue sections, and for that you exchange blue for black and play discard spells like Thoughtseize.

    Posted in: Developing (Legacy)
  • posted a message on Something bugs me about WAR (semi-rant inside)
    Honestly I don't care for the story at all. I am fed up with Planeswalkers doing the same basic thing, making the game combat heavy etc. The Sagas were a much better idea, and I hope we can lock the entire Bolas/Gatewatch up until 2050, because they have spent too much time thinking about showing the story on the cards and not enough time designing the game well, hence the ridiculous Standard bans these past few years.
    I guess the only way we can dump the whole lot is if the entire pile of PWs, Bolas included as I find him spectacularly dull, ended up flame grilled.

    I would like some new worlds, no planeswalkers and definitely no dragons, scheming or otherwise. I won't get this anymore than you will get what you want.......



    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [Primer] Stasis 2016- updated 2019
    Hoogland playing mono U stasis and UR Zarek stasis, which is more of a control list with Stasis, but hey. It has Stasis.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrDufUp9jCU

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZInplhqen7Q

    Edited the primer to include these lists, and tidied up a bit.
    Posted in: Developing (Legacy)
  • posted a message on [Primer] Stasis 2016- updated 2019
    I am honestly not sure about this type of Stasis deck, I have generally done low dude decks myself.
    Lavinia seems at odds with the free stuff.....
    Posted in: Developing (Legacy)
  • posted a message on [Deck] Armageddon Stax
    There is a white armageddon Stax thread rather more recent than this.
    Not many of us on there, but it is rather more recent!
    The answer is no, btw.
    Any pw has to do two things, space is so tight in stax - most cards have to be lock pieces- so PWs need to be win cons and control.
    Karn at 4 mana is better than this in most respects. Additionally, mono w geddon stax runs a lot of colourless sol lands, wastelands, ghost quarters etc, getting WW can be hard when lands, moxen get blown up often to stacks, 'geddon etc.

    There is not really a missing piece. Post drs White stax is much better, if anything the Walking Ballista made a huge difference, and Karn helped, but ultimately the only issue is other Stax strategies are more reliable,' Geddon on its own is situationally powerful, but the deck needs to get to 4, its 4cc slot is overloaded a bit compared to mono b stax and dragon stompy.....

    The PW itself is ok, its just not better than Karn.
    Elspeth/Gideon is probably better in grindier matches like Miracles, this card is brtter vs more combo strategies, but it is slower to set up the ultimate.

    Posted in: Developing (Legacy)
  • posted a message on WoTC English report without gender
    Quote from BP7 »
    Quote from drmarkb »
    I have to admit, as an English born native, with a classical education (I did more periods of Latin than English at school), and as a teacher, I won't accept singular "they" in work produced by my students. A primary school teacher will likely mark a schoolchild's work as being incorrect if they mix up their pronouns as much as they would if they misused a genative apostrophe or mixed their tenses, and they won't accept "they" for singular.
    I am aware of archaic uses of "they", but they are archaic. "Egregious" used to mean outstanding, not outstandingly bad. If I indicated a person's work was egregious, people would assume that I was using the modern rather than eighteenth century meaning. Language evolves, of course, but in this case it becomes confusing to use sungular they in the context of longer sentences involving both individuals and groups.
    I would rather a gender neutral personal pronoun be created; many years ago in the UK the pronoun "ze" was pushed as an alternative to he/she, which makes far more sense, as it has no masculine/feminine connotations.

    I don't really mind what Americans do, of course. Many of our words are rather stupidly francisised by addition of "u", hence our colour and Anerican "color", an attempt to make our language more sophisticated in days where emulating the French was de regeur, so we already have divergence before we even consider our use of S over Z in words ending in "ised".



    I know you were specifically talking about not accepting singular "they" in school work, but I think it's funny you used it yourself when talking about "a teacher" (singular) and "a schoolchild" of indeterminate gender. You can talk about archaic use all you want, but you're probably well aware that it's been reintroduced into common parlance as evident by your own use, which no longer makes it archaic.


    I know I used it! I also used "I", which is also a no-no in report writing, which are written in passive register in science.
    "I did this" turns into "this was done" for reporting events that have transpired. No "I" or "we" are used, except for introductory references to previous reports e. g. "We have previously reported", which is fine outside of the methodology, but only used in actual papers rather than experimental reports. Plenty of informal speach patterns are not acceptable in formal reports. If a student is writing informal speach that is different, but then they could also use "lol", slang or similar without correction.



    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Congrats everybody! We got WoTC onboard with format-bypassing cards
    It does confirm that Standard will forever be absolute arse-wipe, destined to be free of "unfun" experiences. The same vanilla draft experience scaled up into 60 cards.
    Planeswalkers- tick
    Creatures - tick, tick, tick
    Landkill err, what now
    Discard - err too unfun
    Counterspells - fine- on turn 3

    And the value of your cards? Congrats people, you just paid for me to go part time. Yes, you can enjoy paying for everyone else to enjoy Mtg at your expense. Enjoy your Mtg.

    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on WoTC English report without gender
    I have to admit, as an English born native, with a classical education (I did more periods of Latin than English at school), and as a teacher, I won't accept singular "they" in work produced by my students. A primary school teacher will likely mark a schoolchild's work as being incorrect if they mix up their pronouns as much as they would if they misused a genative apostrophe or mixed their tenses, and they won't accept "they" for singular.
    I am aware of archaic uses of "they", but they are archaic. "Egregious" used to mean outstanding, not outstandingly bad. If I indicated a person's work was egregious, people would assume that I was using the modern rather than eighteenth century meaning. Language evolves, of course, but in this case it becomes confusing to use sungular they in the context of longer sentences involving both individuals and groups.
    I would rather a gender neutral personal pronoun be created; many years ago in the UK the pronoun "ze" was pushed as an alternative to he/she, which makes far more sense, as it has no masculine/feminine connotations.

    I don't really mind what Americans do, of course. Many of our words are rather stupidly francisised by addition of "u", hence our colour and Anerican "color", an attempt to make our language more sophisticated in days where emulating the French was de regeur, so we already have divergence before we even consider our use of S over Z in words ending in "ised".

    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on [Primer] Mono Red Prison
    Stupid question, but why is this in developing?
    Man we need a sort out- threads like this should be in the main, alongside Miracles etc. Last I looked infect was lurking in developing as well.
    Why don't you pm a mod and get the deck moved to established (and call it dragon stompy as well as Mono Red prison, as that is what I have seen it referred to as most often)
    Posted in: Developing (Legacy)
  • posted a message on Soldier Stompy
    I think not.
    Her home is probably some D N T style list with vial, or humans style list with vial. We need Moxen and sol lands, and so UW is a big, big ask.
    Posted in: Developing (Legacy)
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