MTG Salvation

Yes there was. It removes your npc right now before you can use it for lategame sweeps. Remember, i dont trust you right now and it would be foolish of me with my limited health to allow you to keep an npc around.

As for your 'plan', no, you do not make summons you protect people and you will continue protecting people. If a summon for any reason pops up it will be considered scum summon. If you say its yours and you try attacking it and fail then i5 confirms you as scum period.

You protect me tonight sins thats the only thing i will consider townie at this point

Oh wow thats hilarious... so let me get this straight Night 9 you decide to protect Proph over me because he was the town read of yours, me being the guy who had been doing the most damage so far and was being talked about shooting people. N10 you flip it around and instead focused your protect on the guy now doing damage instead of the guy who had been heavily active and claiming to be at critical health...

Ok people if your really cant see it now i dont know what else to tell you... its clearly proph and sins and its driving me nuts that you guys arent seeing it.

@Proph a question to you: You are now aware that we have both a reviver AND a healer in the party, yet instead of attempting to Quicken them so they can be at their most effective you continue to go the Damage route, why?

Why do you show Quick so much disdain when the wording you have provided clearly shows that the effects are indeed worthwhile since they would be in effect on the FOLLOWING Night?, therefore if you where to cast Quick on Cythare on Night 11, he would then have DOUBLE Actions on Night 12

My complain with you is the same as my complain with Sins, you are clearly and intentionally playing with your role in the most subpar way possible, you had no way of knowing i would Die on Night 9, as such using Quick on me was the best move as well as the town approved consensus, you disregarded that consensus and instead decided to use Poison on a target that still ended up dying because of another player, i hope you understand how overall shady this comes out looking for you.

What is your current Health Status?

In regards to your list:
1. Why Sins above Kami?
2. Why KK below Kami? (keep in mind you yourself admit to both Sins and KK are "town cleared" because of vezok behaviorally so why is KK below Kami? a player you have not declared as "town cleared" with as much conviction?)
3. Why Bur after jskura? (This has to do with the fact that you behaviorally clear Sins and KK for Vezok/Hunger, but somehow dont town clear Bur because of how he cc'd Wheat)
4. Why Pizza above Bur?

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I also find it funny you are apparently unaware of why your attack got lowered...

Quote from MisterSins »

I protected Cythare last Night.

Why Cyth over Rhand? I want to get your thought process here.

@Sepi: what are you talking about with the random name and chosen name stuff for the dudes? I didn't quit understand your phrasing.

Re-read my posts, it becomes clear.

For the rest of your argument, by your hysteria, I'm afraid nothing I say will sway you, so I don't really care to write anything up.

1. Im not hysteric, I am pissed off and wanting to ensure i get my points across before anything happens.

2. Your 'im defending myself by not defending myself' comes of as super scummy.

3. You really should care about swaying the guy with a crap ton of damage....

Quote from MisterSins »

I chose "don't shoot" as the name. I forgot to name my first one, you dunce.

And if you had read 4514 you would have realized i became aware of that myself and have since corrected myself, the excuse itself isnt even a point in your favor, your name calling is funny tho.

Your defense argument with pizza boils down to AtE, and im more than willing to give leeway for emotion but you go above and beyond that, and at this point you are either scum or dead weight, you need to flip.

@KK: I like that you are admitting your waffle, i hope you understand why im keeping you in my 'the scum are hidden here' pile.

@KK: Thoughts on Proph and my rants? even a quick afterthought would be nice.

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Ok so DCIII's timeline makes things slightly less cut and dry, however im still confident that Proph has only told us Half-Truths about his N7 action, I DO believe that he used Quick and I DO believe that he used it on the Summoner, HOWEVER i believe he used it on the FIEND Summoner, a summoner who already made an excuse in their summons name being defaulted because he forgot to name it, a 'default' name that requires us to assume the Mod, who has been hellbent on keeping a modicum of flavor decided to Default a summon's name into a more 'bro-ish' name instead of an FF monster name (i would recheck DCIII's posts and claim here but im lazy as **** and you guys need something to do, so homework people, find that and see if you see what i see... because im tired of hand holding XD).

And JSKURA is right about Proph's 'modgaming night actions' bit, it makes no sense and its borderline fear mongering, i was hoping someone would point that out, you cannot MODGAME PLAYER night actions, you can only analyze them, the idea that you can infer the mod's mindset or preferences based on what a player will do is absurd

Quote from jskura »

Hey Sep, I dont think anyone has asked this yet, but when you were revived, did you get to do an action last night?

No otherwise i would have smacked Proph or Sins for 18.

Since you are here j do me a solid and check if Proph used Quick on the original DCIII or on the revived one.

Pizza, you there? lets talk a bit.

Look at my reply to proph, what do you think?

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Oh and fyi... im pretty sure sins said he did protect on proph so again thats super boggus...

Why would sins tell the truth about protecting his buddy?

Simple, he couldnt risk claiming protect on rhand because he knew that rhand was getting damaged that night, he couldnt risk protect on HP because strategy wise its useless to damage HP at all, the optimal strategy is to let her keep reviving people at 1hp and then mass kill them during day/night. It ties up the reviver and allows scum to fish long term.

He trying to defend it as 'well proph was my strongest town read' is also nonsensical it shows he isnt reading or taking the actual game state into account. In short he picked proph because it is one of the few options he had available to him that wouldnt auto net him scum status.

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Again i point out that jskura is NOT the enemy susmmoner that plus rhands flip means this push for jskura is entirely scum motivated and we need to direct our attacks at sins and proph

Quote from Prophylaxis »

Sepiriel: ..I only used Quick on DCIII N7 - every Night has just been me poisoning people. Why do you think that makes me scum?

i find it really surprising how you CANT see how your claimed actions dont look suspicious. Aside from what pizza has said the only instance of you using Quick was conveniently the same Night that DCIII died... in trying to remember if this was the original DCIII death or the revived one as i may have more to say based on that.

Listen - stop modgaming night actions like this. It's useless and doesn't help us find the last scum (or two).

you like to keep throwing this around, you make it sound as if any attempt at anqlysing night actions is futile, all it does it make it really apparent how nervous you are of people actually examining the 'thought process' behind claimex actions.

Sepiriel's "plan" has us attacking multiple confirmed townies (Sins/KK/me). Be smart, guys.

ok guys HERE is where all the scum always trip, look at the poisoning of the well as well as appeal to emotion in this part, i point out my plan and the scum lashes on to it like im a village idiot and therefore should not be heard, wheat did it, megs did it, and although imab was town he had a pro scum attitude so even he did it, you can see proph doing it here and its hilarious how the same trip is never caught by people.

FYI: none of sins/kk/you are confirmed proph, show me where it shows you have been confirmed because that mudsling was really desperate of you.

If you look at the interaction analysis I posted that should all that be needed to seal jskura as scum. His slot has multiple poor interactions with dead scum and he hasn't done anything especially townie since replacing in. If he's not scum or the game doesn't end then I'll re-evaluate, but this is the endgame and we should be concentrating on behavior and PoE instead of hoping to catch a scum via night action analysis.

omg so action analysis is bad but behavior analysis is good even tho action analysis gove your behavioral analysis a solid framework to stand on and gives credence to your behavioral assumptions?

Im going to let you in on a secret proph, your interaction analysis is what made me suspect you are scum to begin with, you act like its objective but you are clearly taking a subjective approach with it, then you act like its a sure thing and it clearly shows your bias towards players as you analyze it, in short your analyzis is too convenient and too far apart, outside from those posts which could just as easily come from a bussing mentality you have nothing to stand on, when we couple that with ACTION ANALYSIS you come out looking even scummier.

Oh and there is also that HP post where she pointed out she thought you scum during claims for your "why im town" section.

Guys do not attack jskura for a simple reason, he is not the enemy summoner, therefore the push to have him killed is entirely scum motivated.

Please listen to this Village Idiot (me), for once in your game lives listen to me.

In case i need to spell it out there is something i want to say before i sleep.

Sins you do NOT make single summon from now on. IF you make a summon it will be considered scum admission and get you lynched.

IF a summon pops up no one should attack it and if sins claims to not be the owner he should then prove it by attacking the summon. This is the only way he is cleared.

SINS you WILL protect me from now on, that is not a question or suggestion its an order.

We now proceed to pummel Proph to the ground and get him flipped. Following that we focus on KK then Sins then jskura. If for some reason the game hasnt ended then its pizza but i cannot imagine that ever being the case so im sure its proph and sins.

Ok im off to bed now.

Wether the town listened to you or not is not the point. Once you flipped the town would look back and see what you were saying a d reanalyze, im not trying to bring you down here man but you seriously need a chill pill and to take a step back. Your emotions are really impairing your game sense. Dont worry about how the town sees you right now. Worry about making sure they have enough information so they dont repeat the headless chicken run after you are gone.

I really would prefer your thoughts sooner rather than later but if you promise to follow up on it after proph posts then sure im gravy

You brought it up, but you didnt really do anything with that. I didnt see you follow up on anything... i understand you wanting to defend yourself but at this point you should have ignored the attacks and just concentrated on fishing out the odd things... IF you ended up flipping people would then look at what you had pointed out and follow through from there (and if i skip anything please requote it... i confess i was pulling my hair out most of yesterday so i may have skipped something).

Now be a dear and look at what i went rambl8ng posting a bit ago and give me your thoughts, do you agree/disagree? If y/n then what part and why?

Sigh curse hates me for going on posting spreez

With all due respect jskura you really handled it wrongly... i mean i have you as my town pile right now because of how dogged you were with imab that way of singling yourself out is just not enough reward to outweight the risk... i still think you are the outlier the one thing i could be wrong bu5 gosh darn it i felt sure yesterDay when we still had rhand and having sins be the only one when he claimed to be in critical before as well as not being picked when he was a boosted protect role is... well it jus makes no sense choice wise

With all due respect jskura you really handled it wrongly... i mean i have you as my town pile right now because of how dogged you were with imab that way of singling yourself out is just not enough reward to outweight the risk... i still think you are the outlier the one thing i could be wrong bu5 gosh darn it i felt sure yesterDay when we still had rhand and having sins be the only one when he claimed to be in critical before as well as not being picked when he was a boosted protect role is... well it jus makes no sense choice wise