MTG Salvation

Doubtful.

And checking on Twitter it seems Donald is having a fit over McCain talking about the Yemmen raid "Mattis TOLD me it wasnt a fail guys so all cool, McCain knows ***** he is just a big old loser" - paraphrased.

I believe TYT had a graph recently that showed the amount of money that the Senators who voted on DeVos' confirmation have received either from DeVos directly or from her family (not sure if they got it from Politico or The Post).

So yeah the fact that they could still vote even though they had a clear conflict of interest there is why I dont expect anything to make sense for the next 4 years.

I dont get your last post skura, how is Kami able to have cleared you? from his post it seems he either succeeded or didnt get a notification to say otherwise so i dont see how he would have confirmed your usage of Stealth. I may be missing something here but i dont really get it...

Im going to stick to my guns here

attack koolkoal

Night actions im not sure yet i may shoot around at skura, i may shoot at kami, or i may nail KK for what i think is lethal ill see what my gut tells me.

@jskura: actually i have no idea what you are talking about... what deleted modgaming post? I remember Sins mentioning a post was deleted ut i dont recall its contents (ill look back and see if its still deleted).

Irregardless you are wrong, i am not basing having you in my choices because of that deleted post. I have you at the bottom of my choices because its the only choices we have left. And if you recall i have a bit of a "last fiend must have started as melee" theory going on.

If cyth has no problem locking his action and assuring he will go to jskura then ill do the same, it is not the best choice of night actions in my book but i also cannot ignore the fact that if we dont do this now toMorrow and every Day onwards will just be the same tune.

@jskura: talking about where the best choices are does not mean that all those choices are scum, its merely talking where the best strategic choices are.

Look at my posts and you can clearly see im moving around and flipflopping on a group of people but the group is consistant and i even stress why my thought process places them in my groupings even when i dont believe the players are likely scum.

If you cant see that then you are clearly getting to personal.

I hope you are aware jskura that i have been the biggest pusher for both KK and Sins at any given point this game, as well as being the one person who still finds you unlikely to be scum... so yeah a chill pill is really recommended here.

And again... no comments on my breakdown/assumptions of N11?

Actually HP had mentioned before his Health when he claimed, and if i recall there are at least... 2-3 instances i think when you didnt use Steal? so from that mindset it makes sense for you to have used Meteor in those days (im not saying its you but its not like the theory has no merit whatsoever).

No points or comments on how i survived N11? or on the actions i claimed? or on my thoughts regarding scum night damage?

i was thinking that maybe sins is scum and that the NPC had an attack action last night, but then i realized that Sins also made another NPC last night and that means it could not have been solely Sins thats responsible if at all.

This sadly brings me to Jskura as a possibility because of his claimed meteor.

The problem is jskura having killed the malboro... under a "1 last fiend" scenario it makes no sense... under a "2 fiends remaining" scenario however it makes sense... (this refers to skura being scum)

KK is still a solid choice in my books (aside: i got no idea what your ttyl means... im working under the assumption of "Take That You Loser"... in which case... rude...)

At this point im confident i can shoot most people down to a win, the fact i wasnt auto killed and my current health status is what makes me think both KK and Skura are good choices...

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Ok here is my gambit, if someone catches something please let me know:
1. When i revived i knew i would have only 1HP (check HP's Life claim)
2. Seppel message me telling me because of OoA i should be allowed to spend my SP
3. I insta bumped my HP and Attack (so I would revive with 11HP and 4Attack, with 60 Max HP)
4. HP status was critical
5. On Night 11 i bumped HP and Attack so i would be Max HP: 70, 5 Atk and 21 current HP if nothing had happened to me, my status would also have been upgraded to Poor
6. Day 12 arrives and my stats of Night 11 are accurate (i only cant account for the current HP)
7. That means i was at 70 Max HP, 5 Atk and Poor condition, this tells me that scum either didnt try to hit me or tried to hit me for what they thought was enough to kill me, and that was not enough to change my status from Poor to Critical (at 21 current HP i would have needed at least 4 damage to go into critical since 25% of 70 is 17.5).
8. This is why im thinking those of you with low spells such as skura, Kami, Pizza or KK could be the likely scum.

Thoughts anyone?

For full disclosure im still at Poor but i did bump HP last Night.

@KK: i find it interesting that you didnt use Flare when Bur stated he was going to use his Enemy skill.

@Cyth: You did NOTHING last night? i thought you had Cure...

@Kami: State your Night Actions

For it to be sins it requires that he had some way to double summon (malboro was level 1 and dont shoot level 2), and assuming proph didnt lie about his targets then i cant see how that was possible without a 5th fiend in the mix...

Assuming 4 fiends only then Jskura cant be the summoner and kami is proven to have doubled that day so he is also not a choice(he did double that night right?), HP revived Chris that Day also... that leaves us with KK, Pizza, Cythare and Bur.

Considering the vezok kill i have to scratch cyth out for now... so KK, Pizza and Bur... KK and Bur for best chances then?

attack KoolKoal

Yes im aware of that. Im also trying to acciunt for the whole "vezok is also the summoner" bit that got thrown around... honestly dude chill im aware you arent the summoner doesnt clear you fully since we dont know if there is a fifth fiend but i am summoner hunting now so even if you are in the pile you are not my choice for the day.

The only way i feel i could bee wrong is if megs started as a fighter and mc into WM... i dont reslly feel this is right tho considering he smacked me several days in a row and it took a while for the damage to actually change my status and since i never bumped HP until later on it feels like him starting as a WM makes more sense.

However IF Megs started as a Fighter... hmmm i think HP or Jskura are most likely for buddies... i have no real evidence/conviction for this however and its mostly gut and flavor

@jskura: If i work under the assumption that KK is telling the truth Pizza, you and Bur make the most sense... i am not entirely convinced with KK but at the same time his defense isnt scum-inspired enough to prompt me to swing on him... im trying to recall who claimed to have done what on the day the malboro showed up tho... i dont know... i really feel the last fiend started as a melee class role

@KK: ok thanks for correcting me, hmmm then Kami, Jskura, Pizza or the options... i really dont see Bur as a choice but i could put him as the outlier

In regard to the 'impossible' i was referring to the fact that 1 damage would not be showcased on the hp status barring very specific circumstances and even then could not be attributed to you alone, as for you trying to prove it, again i didnt miss that you 'claimed' to have tried but again unless im misremembering Bur pointed out first what he did and THEN you came in saying 'well i used flare on you because i thought you would be using enemy skill', follow that with pizzas interference which apparently resulted in 0 damage dealt it again puts you in the realm of the unconfirmed.

I actually am more willing to give Bur a pass on his low activity due to Wheat than anything else, can you reallu put suspicion on Bur given he cc'd Wheats TM claim? I really dont think the fiends had duplicate roles in their ranks early game. Look at the scum so far... if we work under the assumption that vezok was not the summoner because like you said he was able to full claim flare then that means that the last fiend MC into bm. Look at the inital claims and cross out the BMs then cross out Bur and HP due to the flipped scum that means the last scum is a 'melee' class... rule me out due to prior flip and cythare due to vezok... kami, you, jskura and pizza are the places i csnnot help but looking at... but i dont feel pizza could be a choice at all he has invested too much effort and bussed to many buddies. That means its kami, jskura and you.

Tell me where you disagree in the logic for that 3 grouping and why.