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  • posted a message on [Primer] Affinity
    Sadly, unless its on a Darksteel Citadel, its REALLY bad in a Kolaghan's Command meta.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (9/28/2015 update - No changes!)
    Well, I'm not surprised but a little disappointed :/

    I still think Summer Bloom would have been one of the better bans, but obviously WotC doesnt agree with me and thats ok.

    Something this will help with, as with the other banlist announcements, is to help set precedent for similar situations that arise.

    So overall, not my favourite announcement but a lesson learned.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on [Primer] Affinity
    This is my list going into Friday's Modern FNM:



    If you look at the GP winning list, what I did is I cut the Spell Pierce's from the board, removed the spellskites main and put them in the board and added the Hangarbacks.

    The card has been stronger than the Spellskite main, as it gives resiliency and its a very good blocker. It makes it scary to attack because you block and get a bunch of Thopters, and since Path is at a low its quite strong.

    I havent played it as much as I would like, but I do think it will be strong.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on [Primer] Affinity
    The fact that 2 Affinity lists beat 2 Jund lists in the last GP should speak to our resilience vs that card.

    Hangarback walker will help a bit too
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on [Primer] Affinity
    With lists using Hangarback Walker, what are thoughts on using Arcbound Worker? Lots of synergy in the deck now and could be super powerful again
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (1/19/2015 - 7/13/2015)
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Quote from DXI-Edge »
    Nice to see our Mod is more worried with proving me wrong than addressing the CONSTRUCTIVE comment above. I'm done arguing, i've said what I said. Regardless, it comes down to what WotC thinks is fair, and I dont think Bloom is.


    I addressed your constructive comment in a constructive way. I'm not sure what's more constructive than pointing to some concrete numbers and trying to ground the discussion in actual results instead of just making claims without any support. Although I am sure you can point to instances where Amulet has won too quickly (winning through Jund and Burn as you talked about above), that kind of experience is just too localized and anecdotal to justify a ban. It would be one thing if those qualitative datapoints aligned with the quantitative ones, but they really don't anymore. They were more aligned in May, but June really challenged our understanding of both the deck and our format's ability to manage it.


    "Its very telling that this new bout of impassioned doom-saying is coming from someone who's signature includes a list of their modern decks...and it's empty."

    I was meaning this CONSTRUCTIVE comment. Apparently my sarcasm on the word constructive wasnt heard.

    Regardless, I'm done.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (1/19/2015 - 7/13/2015)
    Nice to see our Mod is more worried with proving me wrong than addressing the CONSTRUCTIVE comment above. I'm done arguing, i've said what I said. Regardless, it comes down to what WotC thinks is fair, and I dont think Bloom is.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (1/19/2015 - 7/13/2015)
    Quote from BatHickey »
    Quote from DXI-Edge »
    I'm talking a good case scenario, not best, and I'm talking an average case for opponents. I've seen Bloom beat Jund on turn 3 on the draw after being thoughtseized and a liliana plus.

    I've seen Amulet kill turn 3 after a burn player goes turn 1 Guide turn 2 Eidolon Turn 3 Swiftspear double bolt.

    I've seen Amulet kill turn 3 with having their turn 2 bloom being remanded.

    No interaction? Bloom can kill turn 2. With interaction? Can still kill turn 3. And even decks good case scenarios still beat them.

    I've also seen cards banned for less. If Bloom isnt banned I would be absolutely shocked.



    Its very telling that this new bout of impassioned doom-saying is coming from someone who's signature includes a list of their modern decks...and it's empty.


    Maybe scroll down if your going to attack me

    Modern
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    xRxAffinityxRx
    UUUMerfolkUUU
    BUGInfectGUB


    And I'm not doomsaying. I have given clear, thought out arguments. I am reinforcing those arguments with statements from WotC themselves.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (1/19/2015 - 7/13/2015)
    Maybe I don't know how to mulligan, but when I played the deck, I would estimate that turn 2-3 kills were around 1 in every 6-7 games. One out of six is 16.67%.

    Yesterday I put together Affinity and I was surprised about how many turn 3 kills that I got. I have played a lot of decks and (this was the first time I ever tested Affinity, although I've played against it a lot at my LGS) I can't fathom a better Game 1 deck in Modern right now. For reference, I used Frank Karsten's (from CFB) list. Now Affinity is obviously easier to interact with and I'm not trying to say something by this. I was just really amazed once I put together the list since it was the first time that I got to play over 3 games in a short period of time.


    Affinity is held in check by the fact that every single deck can interact with what its trying to do, and the hate is INSANELY efficient.

    While I would agree Affinity is very strong, it is not broken.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (1/19/2015 - 7/13/2015)
    I'm talking a good case scenario, not best, and I'm talking an average case for opponents. I've seen Bloom beat Jund on turn 3 on the draw after being thoughtseized and a liliana plus.

    I've seen Amulet kill turn 3 after a burn player goes turn 1 Guide turn 2 Eidolon Turn 3 Swiftspear double bolt.

    I've seen Amulet kill turn 3 with having their turn 2 bloom being remanded.

    No interaction? Bloom can kill turn 2. With interaction? Can still kill turn 3. And even decks good case scenarios still beat them.

    I've also seen cards banned for less. If Bloom isnt banned I would be absolutely shocked.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (1/19/2015 - 7/13/2015)
    Quote from CrimsonVision »
    Quote from DXI-Edge »

    It can consistently output turn 1/turn 2 kills.



    "Consistently" is a very loose word to use with the Amulet deck. The only one to "consistently" get turn 1/2 kills was proven to be a cheater.


    I meant to put Turn 1/Turn 2/Turn 3 kills. My mistake
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (1/19/2015 - 7/13/2015)
    Quote from ligaco »
    Quote from DXI-Edge »


    My criteria is as follows:

    1) Pro Tour results. It almost won a Pro Tour
    2) Many pros playing the deck to good results
    3) Highest MWP for the month of June
    4) Strong enough that people are playing cards in their sideboard specifically FOR this deck.

    The fact that Blood Moon is around the entire format and the deck can still win games regularily, I believe at one point it was the best deck in the format and the reason its not getting any publicity is due to next weeks announcement. I assure you, if summer bloom isnt banned next week, we are going to hear about it.

    In my opinion Griselbrand and Summer Bloom need to go, and Sword of the Meek will be unbanned.



    With that criteria, you could ban almost any good deck, you that, right?


    That was my criteria for a top tier deck. So yes, that criteria classifies a top tier deck. Thank you for reinforcing my point. Please read.

    My reasoning for why Bloom should be banned is simple: it breaks the number 1 rule of modern. It can consistently output turn 1/turn 2/turn 3 kills. Summer Bloom is the glue that holds that together. Remove it, and the turn 2/turn 3 deck becomes no more or opens way for FAIR turn 4 decks.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (1/19/2015 - 7/13/2015)
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Quote from rcwraspy »


    Highest mwp on mtgo according to this guy:

    http://modernnexus.com/matchups-and-win-rates-top-tier-decks-part-2/

    :-p


    It just doesn't see enough play though, so the MWP could easily be lowered if Amulet Bloom tried to scale up to get a bigger metagame share. So far, Wizards has used exclusively prevalence statistics to identify decks as "top-tier" (see BBE, DRS, Song, Pod, etc.). So long as Amulet stays underplayed, which it currently is, it's hard to make a case for it being top-tier. It's BARELY 5% of the MTGO metagame, and that's a historic stronghold for the deck!


    My criteria is as follows:

    1) Pro Tour results. It almost won a Pro Tour
    2) Many pros playing the deck to good results
    3) Highest MWP for the month of June
    4) Strong enough that people are playing cards in their sideboard specifically FOR this deck.

    The fact that Blood Moon is around the entire format and the deck can still win games regularily, I believe at one point it was the best deck in the format and the reason its not getting any publicity is due to next weeks announcement. I assure you, if summer bloom isnt banned next week, we are going to hear about it.

    In my opinion Griselbrand and Summer Bloom need to go, and Sword of the Meek will be unbanned.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on Current Modern Banlist Discussion (1/19/2015 - 7/13/2015)
    Re: Sword of the Meek argument:

    "When cards are banned from a format, Wizards investigates whether there is a banned card that, if not banned, might add new decks to competitive play. We look for cards that are unlikely to add power to existing top decks, but instead add new strategies or augment decks that are not currently as successful."

    Amulet Bloom is a top-tier deck that can kill on turn 2/3. It WILL be banned. As such, they will look into cards to be Unbanned. This will be at the top of their list.

    Lets take a look at what shells Sword of the Meek goes into:

    Tron Control
    UB/UW/Esper Control
    Big Mana decks
    Possibly a new Affinity list, but unlikely

    With Burn at such a high spot of the metagame, and Control and specifically white at a low point in the meta, and the fact decks have main deck shatters, I believe Sword of the Meek will be unbanned.
    Posted in: Modern Archives
  • posted a message on [Primer] Affinity
    I'm not going crazy over it but you cant just dismiss it without trying it first.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
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