Quote from cryogen »Quote from bobthefunny »no, not that. You said 7 years ago... which would be about 2012. Thats close to when I joined MTGS.
The join date under your name says otherwise....
Quote from bobthefunny »no, not that. You said 7 years ago... which would be about 2012. Thats close to when I joined MTGS.
Quote from Macabre »I'm pretty much done with this topic. My main group has already adjusted the banlist to our own level.
Quote from cryogen »Seven years ago today I started arguing into the void and asserting my correctness in EDH. Good lord that seems.so long ago.
Quote from Macabre »The issue it causes players is when the pilot is slow at math, not what the card adds to the game. The fix to this problem is helping your friend, not banning a card.
I have yet to see or hear a single good excuse for unbanning painter. There are other cards on the banlist that can be set free. The before mentioned panoptic mirror, which is terribly slow compared to what kefnit+turns is capable of doing now. If they want to keep the list short, then unban braids, because banning a card using mtgo as an excuse was silly. Why not gifts ungiven (because intuition isn't), biorhythm when we have shaman of forgotten ways, or coalition victory which fails to a creature removal spell or strip mine and we have approach the second sun which is far easier to control?
Really why did they choose painter when there are multiple other safer options.
Quote from cyberium_neo »I'm sure it's legal to advertise new forums in this forum, but it still feels kind of wrong. You could've advertise this on EDHREC, which I'm sure many of us visit anyway, at least then it would be a neutral ground for people to pick and decide. Posting it here, alongside with a negative outlook, you're actively contributing to the "last gasp" by luring people away, while benefiting your new home.
Quote from Hermes_ »so, I couldn't figure out where this fit perfectly:
It seems to me that the cEDH group wouldn't be happy unless a clear cut statement like "We don't take into consideration competitive EDH because that's not what we're into" or something to that effect to put out there. I understand the following "Competitive balance is not our mission." to be an explanation but others do not.
The goal of the ban list is similar; it does not seek to regulate competitive play or power level [...]
Quote from Muspellsheimr »Wow, that update to the philosophy list is a ******* mistake. The entire thing essentially reads 'I do not like this card, and so no one is permitted to use it'.
Discussing the 'wins out of nowhere' clause, their first invocation of it is in error. Not only does the card they have chosen to ban reportedly because of it not fit, they are ignoring the painfully obvious example of what does qualify.
Each game is a journey the players share, relying on a social contract in which each player is considerate of the experiences of everyone involved--this promotes player interaction, inter-game variance, a variety of play styles, and a positive communal atmosphere.
Quote from schweinefett »I think the philosophy should really emphasise the local meta being more active in determining how they want to play the game. Sorta like setting a local vision in the grand scheme of EDH-ness. I've been testing painter for a while, and it's really not been a problem at all, but every time i mention that it's in a deck to people outside my playgroup (and even on MTGS), people act like i've said something sacrilegious.
It seems like by shortening the philosophy, and reducing specifics, i guess it's the intention of the RC to give local groups a larger ability to interpret what the vision is (and therefore be more inclusive to cutthroat competitive and chuck-in-draft-fodder-types).
Quote from JqlGirl »Uh, that article is from 2017.