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  • posted a message on The 12th Annual MTGS Holiday Card Exchange!
    I like to wait a bit for people to receive theirs so we can all see them at the same time. I received from Mohawk Dan, and I have to say I find it super cool that you picked cards from your own EDH decks. Quote a few will find homes in my Vorosh deck already, while some others will find homes in upcoming projects!

    Thanks Mohawk Dan!
    Posted in: Community Discussion
  • posted a message on Sharktocrab
    Quote from knto »
    Quote from RedGauntlet »
    Sharknado has competition

    I literally thought the same thing after seeing this! Bad enough I thought it said Sharknado when I first read it!

    Syfy channel came out with "sharktopus" 3 years before sharknado. So really sharktopus just got some crab dna to help him take back the crown.

    Shartopus has the best trailer too:

    I may need to have the theme song ready on my phone for whenever I play this guy.

    I only wish it was legendary.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Sliver Overlord control against protection from colors
    Glad to see your question got answered! Please direct future rules questions to the rules forum, you'll get faster replies there too!
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on The 12th Annual MTGS Holiday Card Exchange!
    Quote from Stoogeslap »

    Apologies, I've been busy at a convention the last few days.

    Nope. This would explain why I didn't receive it from you. (also, if I had received it, I'd have had to re-pay postage to send it back, which would be quite obvious)

    I actually pre-sent the extra set of cards after waiting a while, that way you wouldn't receive them too far behind everyone else, which was one reason I had needed your address again. So... you'll actually still be receiving some cards fairly soon.
    Posted in: Community Discussion
  • posted a message on The 12th Annual MTGS Holiday Card Exchange!
    Quote from Stoogeslap »
    Haven't really heard much from BobtheFunny for when he is sending out all of the cards. Am also curious if my submission has been included.

    Bob, if you're out there, can you send Eagle Command a signal...
    Sorry about that Stoogeslap! For some reason I wasn't getting notifications on this thread. - I also thought I'd responded to your first message earlier. I am so sorry!

    I haven't received yours yet, but seeing as they went out late, and how crazy the mail is this time of year, that's to be expected.

    Due to some... complications... with the mail system, there is in fact a packet of cards waiting for you, so as soon as yours arrive, you will be included!

    Please send me a PM with your address, just to verify though.
    Posted in: Community Discussion
  • posted a message on Has anyone ever compiled a list of cards that could be used to help opponents without being straight-up group hug?
    The hunted series, such as Hunted Troll or Hunted Horror could hit into what you're looking for.

    The horror is the most risky, since you're likely running heavy black to get the BB on turn 2, but a 7/7 on t2 is pretty scary as is, and if you both pick on the same target, the pain ramps up fast.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on [Offtopic] Community Thread
    We've set up automated alerts so that as soon as one steps down, the other is messaged to put in an application.

    We're hoping to circumvent that manual process and have the system put in the application on their behalf, but the technology isn't there yet.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Unreleased and New Card Discussion
    Quote from Gashnaw »
    Quote from cyberium_neo »
    Maybe we will have Simic cards that let you cast creature spells by removing +1/+1 counters from your creatures?

    As cool of a mechanic that would be, very doubtful. Plus the idea of weakening a creature to cast another is not a very simic thing to do.

    And yet, the only thing that currently differentiates this from Monstrous is that it's repeatable - if you have a way to remove counters...

    If they don't play with a way to remove or move counters, then I'll be really upset they just made a second monstrous ability.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Who are the deck building geniuses of Commander?
    I think we've had a great showing from all of our primer writers. Early on, when I was looking at similar ideas to build my own decks, it always bugged me when decklists had only the cards with no explanations. We've come a long way now to having a full fledged set of primers with excellent discussions, both in the main list, and the thread that follows.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on The 12th Annual MTGS Holiday Card Exchange!
    Quote from grant1 »
    bobthefunny must not find out what nefarious plan I have come up with in conjunction with the Cult of Santa (anagram fun anyone!)to end holiday joy once and for all!

    Oh gosh, not I'm going to be trying to figure this out for all of next week...
    Posted in: Community Discussion
  • posted a message on A bit of math discussion: How many of X do you put in a deck before you will play Y
    Quote from Taleran »
    How many enchantments to run an Argothian Enchantress or Eidolon of Blossoms

    I have run a solid enchantress deck yet, but for these effects that require a card type for you to draw (although they then help you draw into more) I'd put the lower bound around 15-17 - assuming you're using self recurring pieces, such as rancor, in order to get multiple procs. If you're planning to just try and chain draw, it could be around 25 or so for a lower bound.

    How many 0 or 1 CMC artifacts before Trinket Mage gets a slot
    1 - skullclamp

    In all honesty, with a toolbox tutor like this, the number can be much lower - I've run him with as few as 2 or 3 a number of times - if some of those are very important, or very powerful. I HAVE run him solely to get skullclamp once. I've also run him with far more, including artifact lands - I think the most has been about 10-12.

    How many 4 or less R/W instants before Sunforger finds a home

    I typically run about 10. The lowest I'd consider would probably be 4. Sunforger is such a repeatable toolbox card though, that I don't really see any way that you'd run so few. At worst, you have Swords and Path for direct creature removal, return to dust for other permanents, Chaos Warp as a catch-all removal, Arcbond for mass removal, Teferi's Protection, Angel's Grace, Dawn Charm, etc for self protection,

    How many lands entering the graveyard or effects that do the same before Crucible of Worlds comes out.

    I'm a bad example for this. I am perfectly willing to put crucible in every deck.

    The lowest I've run though is... zero. It was a mono green deck, with many must answer lands, such as Cradle, which I knew would get answered. So Crucible was in there as inevitable recovery.

    Typically though, it'll be about 7-8, Buried Ruin is absolutely great, as the two protect each other, from there it's mostly fetches, and various Strip Mine effects. I tend to run 3 per deck. I also love Mirror Pool.

    This is probably even more personal and subjective than I think it is but in general do you have any guidelines or formulas you follow for this kind of thing?

    It's really a question of what are the chances of activating it, versus how important is it? Cards that are tutors, like trinket mage, are a guaranteed value. The only risk is whether you draw your tutor targets first. Having about 4 targets mitigates this. The next question is how often you plan to use/abuse it - do you have flicker effects, graveyard rez? My Chainer deck ran a lot of 4 cost targets because I had both the Transfigure and Transmute guys, which I planned to reuse a lot.

    For effects like the Enchantresses, the question is how much value you plan to get out of them, and how reliable you want it to be. In a 100 card deck, having 20 targets gives you a 1/5 chance on every draw to get another target. If you get 2 draw guys out, alongside your normal draw per turn, you should be able to keep the cards rolling fairly consistently.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on The 12th Annual MTGS Holiday Card Exchange!
    And we're off to a start!
    Posted in: Community Discussion
  • posted a message on The 12th Annual Holiday Card Exchange! (cross promotion)
    Hey all,

    A number of you may be familiar with the Annual Holiday Card Exchange that has been going on for more than 10 years! For those who aren't, it's a community run fun event, where people alter cards for the holiday, and mail them out to each other.

    The Commander forums have always been quite closely tied to the Holiday Card Exchange, so this year we're giving you all a short reminder that it's up and running!

    It's always a lot of fun, and Commander staples are always a nice talking point in each of these events. So anyways, feel free to check it out, and join in if you would like! We'd love to have you participate!

    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on The 12th Annual MTGS Holiday Card Exchange!
    Hey everyone! I have returned to host for the Holiday Card exchange once again! Some of you may know me from the Commander forums, some of you may have even gotten some of whatever I've made in years past. I'll even be participating once again this year! We have now passed the decade mark on this little exchange, and I see no reason to stop now!

    As always, exchange entries MUST be in to me by the deadline: December 11, 2018.

    For 2017, the MTGSalvation Holiday Magic Card Exchange returns for its ELEVENTH year!

    Here is an introduction for those of you new to this - or - a refresher for the old timers:

    How the exchange works

    The premise is simple. First, MTGSalvation members from all over the world* send me personally altered cards. Then, as Christmas approaches, I randomly send their cards to someone else who participated. It's a fun gift exchange that's always a blast.

    (*As of recent years, due to shipping prices, I will receive and send the US entries. For foreign parcels, I will help organize a round robin and set up so that you can each send to each other, and not have to ship overseas.)

    What do I mean by personally altered? Does that you mean you have to be as good as the people over in the official altered art thread? Not at all! What's important is that you personalize your cards. For example, here are just a handful of cards done over the past few years:

    As you can see, there is a lot of variation in what people choose to do. Featured is wide range of artistic talent, from doodles to full-blown alters. Just make it fun. In general, if you wouldn't be happy with receiving it from somebody else, you should alter it until you would be. Smile

    How to Participate

    Participating is easy! Just send me a PM with your address, and I'll send you mine back. All you have to do after that is send me your cards along with appropriate packaging and postage to mail your cards along to the next person. After that, just relax and wait for your return package to make its merry way to you. It's that simple!

    All participants must have their cards to me by December 11th, 2018. This means I MUST have the cards in hand by this date, NOT that you should mail it by this date.. They will be redistributed and sent off over the weekend, and hopefully everybody will have theirs by December 25th. Please remember to budget enough time for your cards to arrive. For reference, I live in Virginia, USA.

    Brand new accounts are excluded to avoid gaming the system. If you try and game the system to get more presents, I will catch you. Please don't do it. It will just result in a sad face for both of us.

    This event is not sponsored or endorsed by Wizards of the Coast in any way. It is purely something done for fun by people who love Magic, and is not for for any financial gain or otherwise.

    Tips and Checklist

    Over the past three years, previous exchange runners saw a lot of cards come through. Here are some recommendations to help make the holiday exchange fun for everybody!

    • Try and modify cool cards. They don't necessarily have to be rares, but it's great when somebody can play the cards they receive in a deck and then tell the story of how they received them! If you are on a budget, think an altered playset of playable commons, an EDH staple, or basic lands are great... as long as it's playable it's cool!
    • Stumped for cards to alter? Try sending cards related to your name, avatar, or signature! That way there's a connection between MTGSalvation and the card's you're altering.
    • What you receive is random and a gift from someone else to you. Regardless of how you feel about the quality of cards you received, please be grateful. After all, it's a gift!
    • Part of the fun is ripping open the package when it finally arrives to see what you received. Do not post the alters you did ahead of time - though vague hints can be fun. Wink We don't want to ruin the surprise!
    • Sending items such as letters, notes, or pictures along with your cards to the other person is not only allowed, but encouraged!
    • You might want to take a picture of your cards before you send them so that you can still show them off if the recipient has no way to upload an image.
    • You may submit as few or as many cards as you would like. Take your time and make some great alters!


    1. You absolutely must, must, must include a stamped envelope (NOT SELF ADDRESSED) envelope with enough postage for up to a 6 oz package. If you do not include one, I cannot promise you that you will receive any cards back. Make sure this envelope has enough postage to mail the stuff you sent. Again, DO NOT send a self-addressed envelope! You must provide an envelope that will be sufficient to mail your items further out.

    2. In the past, a couple of people have sent extra large/heavy items. This is great, and often these items are very cool! However, if you're going to do this, please include an extra envelope that is the appropriate size and/or has the right amount of postage on it. Please do include some real cards as well, that way your recipient can still have something to include in a deck!

    3. No proxies/fakes, no matter how cool. Sentiments on these vary across the entire range, but MTGSalvation does not condone this practice. While the gift exchange isn't directly affiliated with the site, let's keep this above the belt for the Holidays. Thanks!

    4. If you are an international participant, please tell me in your PM so we can discuss how international shipping will work out best in your case. The US Postal prices have done some crazy things in the last few years, and shipping times may be a concern.

    5. Along with your cards and Stamped envelope, please include a slip of paper with your MTGSalvation username. There will be a lot of cards coming in and if I don't know who sent me something I can't really let them know - which I'd like to do Smile


    1. Send me a PM with your address
    2. Check you inbox daily, I'm on all the time and will generally be quick to reply.
    3. Alter cards!
    4. Write your MTGSalvation username on a slip of paper.
    5. Send me your cards, that slip of paper with your MTGSalvation username, and a stamped envelope with enough postage to mail your cards, inside another envelope. Don't forget any of those steps!
    6. Time travel to later in December and check your mail. Enjoy your gift!

    Please post below.

    Myself! (obviously)
    Slavan K. Guiser
    Mohawkdan 2.0

    ==EU People==

    Posted in: Community Discussion
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