Doesn't hurt to ask. They might say no, but if you don't ask, they'll never say yes. It's also a chance to have a bunch of fun. I'd recommend recording key events that happen in your games, or at least things that stood out to be memorable. When Sheldon started testing a Kokusho Unbanning test, I talked my playgroup into trying it too, and created a Chainer Deck to give it a shot (which also ran Grisel). I know that Cryogen runs a bunch of banned cards in his EDH cube, and one of the fun things he does is keep track of how many cards the Library of Alexandria draws each game. I also run a Grimlock, Dinobot Leader Commander deck which is technically not legal, but it's also a Dinosaur tribal pile of jank, so no one cares.Quote from benjameenbear »Depending on how many people share and what types of experiences they had with him, I'm going to attempt to convince my playgroup to unban him, if only just to give me a chance to play him in a Commander deck for a single game haha.
Well, he did actually get to be played for quite a while, as I recall running him in my Kokusho unbanning test deck. He didn't really get much of a chance to shine or do degenerate things since I rarely saw him in the 99, and the one time I played him in the Command zone... well... Stigma Lasher happened on turn 2 (my turn 1).Quote from cryogen »This kind of explanation makes me wince a little. You make it sound like you had already made up your mind without giving him a chance to see how he is played. I don't contend how stupid strong he is and probably should have been banned ASAP (I say probably because I dont honestly remember if I ever saw a game with him before getting axed), but when almost every card on the list gets into heated debates based on actual experience, this feels like an odd exception. I would much rather the official explanation be that you anticipated how broken it would be and had discussed it as something to keep a watch on, and sure enough the feed back you got was instantaneously negative.
What I can say, was that getting him to stick was quite often a degenerate amount of advantage. Even simply drawing a new hand every turn due to his lifelink was often more than enough fuel to suddenly take on the entire table.
Tried to find a game recap, but I don't seem to have recorded one, or at least not one I can easily find. I can say that no one was upset when he left though.
To be entirely honest - I'm getting quite fed up with Razaketh the foulblooded, myself. I find him to be very similar, and play very similar as well. The extra creatures are not an issue, and the two life per card, instead of 1 per 1, is hardly an issue since you just get what you want, instead of having to dig for it.
Quote from Sheldon »Hrm...I'm pretty sure at least I (maybe not the rest of the RC) said that I knew Worldfire would be going at the first opportunity. It was a long time ago now and I don't specifically remember saying it, but I do recall the feeling that it's a poster child for interacting poorly with the format.
I think it was rapidly discovered here too, that float mana, Worldfire, Zo-zu from Command zone was going to be quite dumb, and was very much not the intent of the card.