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Quote from Wraithe »Quote from schindar »Am I reading this right? The +1 is usually just Beast Within. That's pretty ridiculous for UG, the color combo that is the utter worst at removal. Whaaaa? Blue and green are THE two colors of polymorphing effects. Virtually every card in Magic that transforms a card from what it is into a (usually vanilla) creature of some sort is either blue, green, or blue/green. Additionally, blue is the primary color of turning artifacts into creatures, including doing so to remove its text box to shut it off. While green is one of the major artifact-hate colors, along with red. Usually, the creatures blue or green turn a card into is a 1/1 (like a frog) or a 3/3. The +1 uptick effect on Oko is about as quintessential a UG form of effect as you can get for removal.
Quote from schindar »Am I reading this right? The +1 is usually just Beast Within. That's pretty ridiculous for UG, the color combo that is the utter worst at removal.
Quote from Buffsam89 »Quote from Carthage »Quote from Shadow345 »I'll probably receive a lot of hate for this, but I had a look over some of the decklists for the Commander product as far back as the original. I'll say it the overall value doesn't seem that different. The only real outliers are the Atraxa deck and the vampire deck with Teferi's Protection. And the prices on those are like all high Magic prices, based on hindsight. The originals were very high value, one came with flusterstorm, mimeoplasm was loaded with value, kaalia is super expensive etc Cyclonic rift is a 20$ card and came in the teferi deck, teferi is also a 30$ card. The only set of commander decks I kind of regret purchasing is the most recent one, and this set is not looking much better. Well, you listed Commander Originals, so, kind of not on topic here. Obviously there is value in the new cards, they’re new.
Quote from Carthage »Quote from Shadow345 »I'll probably receive a lot of hate for this, but I had a look over some of the decklists for the Commander product as far back as the original. I'll say it the overall value doesn't seem that different. The only real outliers are the Atraxa deck and the vampire deck with Teferi's Protection. And the prices on those are like all high Magic prices, based on hindsight. The originals were very high value, one came with flusterstorm, mimeoplasm was loaded with value, kaalia is super expensive etc Cyclonic rift is a 20$ card and came in the teferi deck, teferi is also a 30$ card. The only set of commander decks I kind of regret purchasing is the most recent one, and this set is not looking much better.
Quote from Shadow345 »I'll probably receive a lot of hate for this, but I had a look over some of the decklists for the Commander product as far back as the original. I'll say it the overall value doesn't seem that different. The only real outliers are the Atraxa deck and the vampire deck with Teferi's Protection. And the prices on those are like all high Magic prices, based on hindsight.
Quote from SonofaBith75 »Quote from schindar »Quote from Arwen_Spence »Seriously, there are times I don't know what would happen if Magic players were given nothing to whine about. Magic is releasing ludicrous amount of products in a year. Don't like these? Wait a few months and see what the Brawl decks look like and if there's anything you want out of those. At this point, when there's a product I don't really want I'm almost grateful because it means it's one less thing I have to worry about where my Magic budget is concerned. The level of entitlement from some folks is outrageous. Seriously, I don't know what would happen if there weren't people looking to whine about other people whining. The level of entitlement from some folks is outrageous. Gavin Verhey HIMSELF admitted last years decks were underwhelming in terms of reprints, so if a Wizards employee ADMITS a mediocre product, why can’t you? You confuse “entitlement” with REASONABLE expectations to not receive yet another mediocre product. Gavin Verhey himself also acknowledged the players complaints were heard and indicated that would be remedied this year, and so far, we’ve not seen ANY evidence of this, although there’s still quite a bit to reveal. There are plenty of midprice staples that could use more printings. NO ONE IS ASKING FOR, OR EXPECTING $25 or $30 singles. There are however tons of staples in the $7-$12 range that people would love to see. Path to Exile Lightning Greaves Mystical Tutor Skullclamp Solemn Simulacrum Phyrexian Arena Chromatic Lantern Shattering Spree Propaganda Aura Shards Though Vessel Expedition Map Sword of the Animist All the Battlebond dual lands. The Medallion cycle. And in the $20ish range: Cyclonic Rift Mirari’s Wake Strip Mine Rhystic Study You say people are entitled. I say, have higher standards and stop settling.
Quote from schindar »Quote from Arwen_Spence »Seriously, there are times I don't know what would happen if Magic players were given nothing to whine about. Magic is releasing ludicrous amount of products in a year. Don't like these? Wait a few months and see what the Brawl decks look like and if there's anything you want out of those. At this point, when there's a product I don't really want I'm almost grateful because it means it's one less thing I have to worry about where my Magic budget is concerned. The level of entitlement from some folks is outrageous. Seriously, I don't know what would happen if there weren't people looking to whine about other people whining. The level of entitlement from some folks is outrageous.
Quote from Arwen_Spence »Seriously, there are times I don't know what would happen if Magic players were given nothing to whine about. Magic is releasing ludicrous amount of products in a year. Don't like these? Wait a few months and see what the Brawl decks look like and if there's anything you want out of those. At this point, when there's a product I don't really want I'm almost grateful because it means it's one less thing I have to worry about where my Magic budget is concerned. The level of entitlement from some folks is outrageous.
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