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  • posted a message on Read this announcement at your own risk (it involves mtg)
    Quote from xaltair »
    I for one welcome our new Warhammer 40k overlords, it's time, magic has run its course and it needs to drastically adapt or perish.

    In what way has it run its course that it would need to pull in other franchises to adapt?
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  • posted a message on [TSR] Talrand, Walk the Aeons, Piracy Charm, Erratic Mutation and Bewilder— MTGNerdGirl previews
    Surprised Crovax is a mythic and not an extra turn spell in this day and age.
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  • posted a message on Read this announcement at your own risk (it involves mtg)
    Quote from Ryperior74 »

    actually you know what the mtg fans have blood on their hands why defend the mtg universe when recently vast majority of people are saying they hate the lore for sets since BFZ with the whole gate-watch thing

    Probably because there is more lore than just the Gatewatch, both before and after it.
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    Another problem I have with Paper Trading Card Games / Collectible Card Games like Universal Fighting System by Jasco games (re-branded as UniVersus) and Weiß Schwarz by Bushiroad is that instead of these licensed properties having their own Paper Trading Card Game / Collectible Card Game with it's own unique gameplay mechanics they're forced to share the same gameplay mechanics with other licensed properties within the same Paper Trading Card Game / Collectible Card Game that plays nothing like the source material they're based upon. It feels too watered down and generic with low learning curves for players who struggle with games being too complicated to learn. Less complexity equals more sales however something too complex won't sell at all as we've already seen with a lot of failed card games within the past couple of decades that missed the mark due to poor marketing and advertising. The sooner the Pay-to-Win business model changes from loot crates to something more convenient that isn't Online / Digital exclusive the better. Unfortunately we haven't found a real solution for it yet especially since now the ongoing pandemic has dramatically changed the paradigm.

    The interesting thing I find about Weiss is that they incorporated Adventure Time into their card game even though AT already had/has a card game with Card Wars. For the longest time I just thought that Weiss was just the "anime card game" in that you saw a bunch of various anime show up there, but then Adventure Time showed up and I had no idea what it was anymore.

    I don't believe Magic really needs to be doing this kind of crossover. As much as I hate TWD Secret Lair at the very least it was compact, I bought the MLP one and I figured that was fine as a strange one off, Hasbro owning both, their abilities are silly, and it was for charity, but it was pretty clear when TWD happened and how it was done (black border, eternal legal, etc) that this was going to happen more and more and that they had opened a box they shouldn't have. With the various rumors about them doing more SLs like that at the time (Harry Potter with Stryxhaven and others) this isn't surprising, but it is highly disappointing.

    D&D is one thing, and even I'm not 100% a fan of that per se, but at least they do share some similarities, but with Lord of the Rings, Warhammer, and who knows what other abominations will take place (I can already see a Yugioh card in Magic) this does not seem to bode well for the game.

    If the 40kommander decks are not filled with good reprints and strictly all about 40k then I will be skipping out on those decks for the first time in a long time. I'm just not interested in them and the same could be said about LotR, I have no real attachment to that franchise. If they did have ones with franchises I cared about I'd still not enjoy seeing them.

    I do wonder what the contracts with these cards are. During a tournament stream will WotC have to pay up for showing Gandalf blocking an Emrakul or when the announcers go on about how good "The Shire" legendary land is?
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  • posted a message on Read this announcement at your own risk (it involves mtg)
    I think the biggest thing that bothers me about entire sets of cards that are not Magic related is that it tells us the game can't stand on its own and now they need other IPs to help sell it. It makes the game feel cheap and rake like (look up rake for why I used that word.) If I wanted to play a LotR card game I would have played the actual LotR card game when it was out, if I wanted to play 40k I'd go spend $400 on painting supplies for one miniature.

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  • posted a message on Read this announcement at your own risk (it involves mtg)
    Quote from 5colors »

    Its not, the 2021 Commander decks are tied to Strixhaven. The Warhammer thing I believe is a separate thing.

    I didn't say this year though.
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  • posted a message on Read this announcement at your own risk (it involves mtg)
    Learning that the 40k stuff will take the Commander decks I am not thrilled by that. Those were a great way of introducing characters we have not seen in Magic to cards and now I get to sit here looking at a completely different series of characters that not only I don't know, but that I don't care about in the least. I mean I didn't care about Nahiri first appearing on a card, but at least that's a Magic character and not the trap/sex god of Warhammer.

    The issue with these two is only compounded by the fact that these will be yet another product that they will push in addition to everything they already have. Suddenly we'll have a set of 5-7 SLs on Tuesday, a Harry Potter set on Wednesday, a Modern set on Thursday, and Standard set on Friday and then by the next Monday the next SL will be getting spoiled and they'll be talking about the next Standard set 3 months before it comes out.

    The Magic news will never stop and the products will keep being spoiled like a shipment of milk in the sun. It won't be exciting and the game will burnout as it introduces Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Vintage worthy SL and One Night to Live non-Standard set as Arena Historic streams will be filled with Gonzo destroying everything on the field with an ETB as an indestructible Bugs Bunny is the only thing left that flips into a crossdressing rabbit if sent to the graveyard. Was what I said in this paragraph a clear slippery slope? Oh **** yes, but this slope sure seems to have a whole mess load of yellow caution signs that tell me of the chances of slipping that it didn't have a couple years ago.

    Between the constant bannings, double and even triple the products of years prior, and now the products branching out like an unplanned DC Comics cinematic universe my faith in Magic is dropping oh so very quickly, and it was dropping rather steadily over the last couple of years due to the various things they've done. (I say this in lieu of other colorful terms.)


    The first created the Ikoria cards and then decided to slap on the Godzilla "skins". With these projects they will create cards matching their identity, like they did with TWD

    We'll see about that, considering it hasn't happened yet, there's a reason they didn't have the official MTG name beneath the WD names and it's because they had no idea what the cards would be in the future. It shows a complete lack of planning.

    More so the issue then becomes as these "original" cards come to us we'll be sitting here waiting for them to rerelease, likely as some Secret Lair that they can go "Finally, you can collect the real cards, but at an extreme markup! Collect them all!" and all I can sit here is go "No, I don't want to pay $40 for $8 of cards."
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  • posted a message on Read this announcement at your own risk (it involves mtg)
    Well this better be like Godzilla and not like Walking Dead.
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  • posted a message on [STX] Commands, Mystical Archive, and the first look at Commander 2021
    I'm a little surprised they spoiled anything for Strixhaven considering Kaldheim just came out not even two weeks ago. It seems like they cannot let any set breathe anymore before the next bit of info is spilling out for the next set.

    The Commands are fine, none of them stand out amongst the others and overall seem a bit average.

    The CMC and "shuffle library" text seem a little strange. Sure "converted mana cost" could eat up a bit of space on a card, but it rarely mattered, though "mana value" is much shorter. Take out "your library" doesn't seem necessary, but again I do suppose it makes some things shorter.

    The Masterpieces makes me wonder if this was done because set boosters weren't doing well or as yet another way to try and sell them and why the Japanese versions were necessary, though they do look nice.
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  • posted a message on Innistrad booster box leak Japanese
    Quote from Flamebuster »
    So I'm still confused by this Innistrad inception. Is it the same set with two different angles? Or are they two separate sets?

    I need a drink...

    'buster

    I think it's two different sets, kind of like what some Japanese TCGs have done in the past. Why they chose to do this, who knows, but what I do know is that this is yet the third year in a row that we have a special booster of some sort being introduced. First it was collectors, then set, and now this.
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  • posted a message on (Leak) strixhaven house names and color combos
    Quote from Xcric »
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    i'm reminded of innistrad where everyone was oh so insistent that the set was banking off twilight's popularity as if werewolves and vampires hadn't existed prior to that trash.

    The thing with the Twilight focus, in my mind, wasn't so much about there being vampires & werewolves, but how just before that both of those things got super popular years prior between Underworld, Van Helsing, Twilight, & others and even more so than that was the whole vampires vs. werewolves, which I've never understood. They are not mongooses and snakes kind of rivalry, they are just mystical creatures that just so happen to hunt the same food. I find that "rivalry" the most boring part of Innistrad.

    As for Harry Potter coming through in this set it's not a surprise, while there have been many fantasy schools throughout literature and media WotC definitely will target the more famous parts of memorable "fantasy school" and it will feel like Harry Potter as that is really the most popular franchise one would think in this environment. There is no way for WotC to avoid that.
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  • posted a message on (Leak) Strixhaven confirmed to have commander 2021

    That’s what Chinese proxies are for. $3 instead of $40+.

    Or I could spend a scrap piece of paper and some ink from a marker and slip it into a sleeve, or just not put a card in a deck because you don't have to play pretend with game pieces.
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  • posted a message on (Leak) Strixhaven confirmed to have commander 2021
    mod: This post has been removed due to promoting counterfeit products.

    If something is expensive I just don't include them in decks.
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  • posted a message on [B&R] February 15 Banned and Restricted Announcement
    I'm a little surprised they decided to keep the cascade/split card interaction the same. Understandably they have the whole CMC is doubled thing, but you'd think with the "Cascade only cares about lower CMC" they'd just make it so you could only cast one side if its lower CMC than the cascade.
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  • posted a message on (Leak) Strixhaven confirmed to have commander 2021
    Not surprising with there being the five schools, or house, or whatever they are calling it in Stryxhaven.

    I hope these end up better than the Ikoria ones. While the Cycling deck was worth it the reprints were quite lacking and making them focus on the mechanics/themes of the set weren't great, especially with mutate.

    At $40 they are going to have to try real hard to show why these should be $40 while the $20 ones are floating around, they need reprints like Wurmcoil Engine and other high end reprints or cards that haven't seen reprints in a long while, or ever, like Oversold Cemetery (just as an example). Shocklands should really be in these as well by now (at least one in a deck), it's about time.

    since there are five decks the question is what will be the colors (mono, guild, or shard/wedge)

    Likely whatever the "house" colors are.
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