I haven't played much legacy lately so I don't know what decks are in my meta but one thing to note is that by having 2 threats (rack and quest) AND that they are of 2 different card types (art and enchant) they would have to choose which enchantment or artifact to destroy over the corse of the game. Obviously they will choose the chains during game 2 or afterthey find out what the deck is but it's always possible to draw out an enchantment destruction card early too...just a thought.
Does anyone think that Quest for the Nihil Stone has a place in here? I just saw it when I was reading about Megrim & Liliana's Caress and thought it was pretty much a slap in the face. But then again, it might just be overkill.
If you are at all condidering Megrim you should change that thought over to Liliana's Caress because it does the same exact thing but costs 1 less and its also loss of life instead of damage (not like it matters in this deck but still)!!
What about the addition of Trade Routes? If you wanted to addDaze you could always take out maybe 1x of each non-basic...maybe...just a thought. That's the best I can do right now.
I'd like to get the 4th Gamble but can't manage to choose what to take out. What d'you think?
AWESOME!! I'm so glad to see this finally coming to life. Its like my Frankenstein monster lol. What would it look like if we only ran 3 Chains or Anvils? Is it absolutely a necessity to run 4x of chains, anvil, bob, mox, hymn, TE? I might drop a TE for the last gamble..since you will probably be searching for it anyway. Might be worth a look at.
I'll be testing against the decks in my sig. Analysis coming!
Great! I'm really excited to see what this can do. I have been wanting to break this card for a really long time.
I'm still trying to figure out what the main benefit of Tortured Existence is. Is your plan to kill them with creature damage or to end up decking them?
Thanks for the posts! Great thoughts so far, I'm definitely glad to see the red version. It is looking a lot more balanced. Good call on the winds of change because with chains and anvil out that's a lock.
I always thought that using Teferi's puzzle box would be great but in fact it would hose me over just as much. It worked much better with underworld dreams
I'm wondering if howling mine might be better than anvil because there would at least be some card draw without discard on my end. I think that would be ok with the amount of discard in the deck.
Hey everyone, I have been trying to think of a way to make a viable, competition worthy legacy deck with Chains of Mephistopheles for several years. This is the beginning of the deck that I have developed.
AWESOME!! I'm so glad to see this finally coming to life. Its like my Frankenstein monster lol. What would it look like if we only ran 3 Chains or Anvils? Is it absolutely a necessity to run 4x of chains, anvil, bob, mox, hymn, TE? I might drop a TE for the last gamble..since you will probably be searching for it anyway. Might be worth a look at.
Great! I'm really excited to see what this can do. I have been wanting to break this card for a really long time.
I'm still trying to figure out what the main benefit of Tortured Existence is. Is your plan to kill them with creature damage or to end up decking them?
I always thought that using Teferi's puzzle box would be great but in fact it would hose me over just as much. It worked much better with underworld dreams
I'm wondering if howling mine might be better than anvil because there would at least be some card draw without discard on my end. I think that would be ok with the amount of discard in the deck.
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4x Dark Confidant
4x Vampire Nighthawk
3x Bloodghast
2x Squee, Goblin Nabob
Enchantment: (6)
4x Chains of Mephiststopheles
2x Words of War
4x Anvil of Bogardan
4x Chrome Mox
Spell: (15)
4x Burning Inquiry
4x Thoughtsieze
4x Hymn to Tourach
3x Innocent Blood
4x Badlands
4x Bloodstained Mire
4x Undiscovered Paradise
3x Swamp
1x Mountain
2x Dakmor Salvage
I was thinking that Liliana's Caress might be a good fit but not sure if it has a place or not.
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