Quote from Creedmoor »I always thought that Ravnica seemed more like a collective of worldviews and civilizations blended into one "urban" world. It never seemed like it was taken from one culture only to me, so I don't see where people get that from.
Quote from ilovesaprolings »Quote from Dom4419 »Fiore is already based on Rome. Maybe not the time of gladiators and such but i doubt they'll make two planes based on the same real world location just different eras.
Fiora is based on Italy during Renaissance (and particularly Firenze). While that is certanly linked to the roman empire, it's not the same.
Quote from Dom4419 »Fiore is already based on Rome. Maybe not the time of gladiators and such but i doubt they'll make two planes based on the same real world location just different eras.
Quote from H3RAC71TU5 »It's not so much wrong as it is less precise language, something we usually tolerate in colloquial contexts. You're right that people wont ever learn to be more precise if they aren't corrected, that is, assuming that they need to be corrected and aren't just using broad language.
Quote from user_938036 »It is explicitly not an opinion that Ravnica is not Roman but Slavic. Being wrong isn't a crime but being smug and wrong should be.
Quote from Creedmoor »Once again, another forum corrupted by the bickering of nerds.
Quote from Xeruh »If you want to claim they built Ravnica to be a Rome plane feel free, but unless you're going to actually cite where WotC did that at best you're arguing something to the effect of subconscious influences which is very wishy washy territory.
Quote from Xeruh »And I'm not really sure why referencing Gladiators/Spartacus somehow invalidates my "Empire/Gladiator" bit with regards to pop culture.
Quote from H3RAC71TU5 »This argument seems to ignore the fact that the phrase "Greco-Roman" pretty much exists in the first place because in popular culture they're largely conflated, a conflation of those cultures which occurs because of their perceived similarity, and the point that Theros can be characterized as purely Greek in its source material is the kind of nit-picking detail that the general audience doesn't care about. Probably why people were calling Theros "Greco-Roman" to begin with.
Quote from Xeruh »You're really only making my case as most people probably wouldn't view Ravnica as very Rome-like, and most of your examples are probably not very heavily noticed in pop culture.
Quote from Xeruh »Ravnica is clearly not a Rome inspired plane so it doesn't really change things.
Quote from Xeruh »As for whether or not they will do a Rome plane they seem interested in it. I just think they're going to have to add in other elements, and it'll probably be a bottom up set that gets a Rome theme tossed on as opposed to a top-down Rome set. Note that this isn't about whether or not an in depth look at two different cultures has enough for them to stand on their own, that question is fairly obvious. It's what happens when you look at a very shallow, pop culture focused view on a subject that I'm talking about.
Quote from Xeruh »Saying "gladiators and empires" is not casting it in a minor feature of public consciousness, it is saying it is one of two things. And I don't think either of those are enough to stand on their own. Empire and Gladiator World isn't exactly a very exciting sounding plane to me.
Quote from Xeruh »Beyond gladiators and empires I doubt there is much people do know about Rome from a pop culture subject.
Quote from Xeruh »I feel like calling a "pop culture movement" indicates there is some sort of focused effort to do so when it's merely the result of what looking at something very shallowly will end up with. Much as one may, for instance, look at Japan and come to the conclusion all there is are ninja and samurai.
Quote from Xeruh »... I don't expect much from a Rome plane that would stand on its own relative to a Greek plane, because from a pop culture standpoint the two are similar enough.
Quote from Cursed »whats night time?