Quote from CatParty »I think the issue many people have just comes down to MtG being a Fantasy card game, by their standards. Now you can certainly make the argument that Magic has strayed away from High Fantasy and has dabbled in steam punk, Historical Fantasy, Folklore Fantasy, a strange caliber of sci-fi fantasy (Kaladesh), and has even included "gunpowder fantasy" (Portal 2), and D&D, while a separate IP, is still a high fantasy setting that compliments what MtG has been all about in the past - but one thing Magic has never done is let the 20th/21st Centuries bleed into the product in the form of Denim Jeans, Cowboy Hats, and Sneakers. And that seems to be what these UB sets - Walking Dead and Stranger Things thus far - have been, and will be, doing. People like to forget about the real world, and it seems like these IPs are extremely grounded in augmenting our own existing day-to-day existence. I think that's what's truly irking everyone. It's what's irking me, but I'm not gonna Gatekeep and refuse to play with people who want to run these cards, I'm just gonna continue to play with my high fantasy-flavored cards.
People do want a Old Western Cowboy setting too though. That's what I'm getting from what Mark Rosewater's Blogatog.
but its wotc, also we never heard of a quoz that maybe isn't even a character) 
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Have things gotten so powerful that people forgot about Baneslayer being in a format alongside things like Eugene and what have you?
Companies squeeze out as much money from something if sales are any indication of such. Which is why we haven't been seeing settings like Kamigawa or Ulgrotha as main settings lately since their respective inceptions.
However, I'm sure that if they were to one or both of those two back sales would be wild. (Although you could argue that Innistrad is the lovechild of The Dark and Homelands but I digress).
The consumer base is very fickle; I don't think they even know what they want. A lot of this is driven by emotion. That also holds relevance: What is important to you may not be important to someone else. You don't determine what ought to be "standard" in Magic in terms of how or why things get played/bought. All you can do really is play along and choose to opt out when able. WOTC is easily and undeniably playing into the financial reasons for this. They know people will buy it for the sake of having something in pop culture represented in MTG form.
Tired argument but it holds true. So who knows what will happen.
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P.S: D&D is going to be a super popular set because of its tie in with D&D and that player base. It will probably be one of the best selling sets of all time. Watch.
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Gorilla Shaman in Modern now. Huh.
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You're subject to the widespread association aspect here. Unless you're a declared moderate, you're pretty much affiliated with whatever the said party/mentality stands for on all regards.
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I echo this. It's hard to get behind something that says openly that someone like me, a MTF transfemale (pre-treatment), should not exist because reasons. I get people have a right to their opinion but when those opinions become deadly and purposely prevent someone from having an existence, that's where the line in the sand is drawn.
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They indiscreetly inserted Rhystic into the set to some extent.
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Interesting choice to put into the archive. Not sure what impact it will have on historic but anything is possible.
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To each their own.
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