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Thalakos Seer = Good Times

You forgot to mention Octopi...also carnivores (exclusively I think).

They are one of 3 animals on the planet (along w/Humans & Chimps) that are capable of 'observational learning', where one member of a species observes another solve a problem or task, and can then replicate the correct solution on the first attempt.

Dolphins can't even do it reliably.

Quote from Binary »

Why, specifically, do you feel it should not work?

If I turned his Mountain into an Island, and then Eradicate his (now-) Island...it seems wrong to take away all his Mountains, when I named "Island".

I guess that regardless of what I name it, "Island", it remains officially...a Mountain, and since the rest of his lands are 'officially' named Mountain, it removes them. Correct?

Weird.

EDIT: PokerBob explained it clearly. Again...weird...but I absolutely CANNOT WAIT to pull this off. Ohhh....the good times.

I think you're probably right.

Just to be sure....

1) I turn one of opponent's mountains into an island, using Sea's Claim.
2) I cast Genju of the Falls on that same land.
3) I cast Eradicate and name "Island"
4) I then remove that Genju'd Land, and THEN go through his hand and remove all their Mountains from the game?

That still doesn't seem right....??

I'm not trying to be dense...it just seems like this should NOT work. Explanation, anyone?



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(Pls. forget I even mentioned the Quicksilver Fountain...it just confused things.)

Cool.

However...if my opponent is playing a red deck.

I turn their mountain into an island using Sea's Claim, and enchant that land with the Genju of the Falls, and then play Eradicate on the island/Genju...what happens?

Genju of the Falls + Eradicate

Is this is a combo or a bombo?

What, exactly, are the limitations....would it blow up all their lands? (or just the one)

1) I'm thinking that unless I catch them playing a mono-blue deck, it'll only affect the land I've targeted (which I turned into an island using various methods. Correct?

2) Is there a way to change temporarily all lands into islands? Quicksilver Fountain was the only thing I could think of that's even similar.

Thanks in advance,
M

OK, Ravnica is coming...and it's going to have guilds. Big news.

Today's Article, "Honey, I Shrunk the Blue Cards", caught my eye...
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/af68

I've been thinking how they might make the (rumored 10) guilds distinct enough to make them mix/matchable enough to create more complexity. Now....a few excerpts..(The BOLD part really got me thinking...)

"... creatures “pluses” for inspiration. Green—the best plus color—can give creatures +X/+X pretty easily. White gets a little slice of that, generally by giving very small bonuses, like +1/+1. White also gets one half of that ability—the +0/+X toughness bonus. And red is now the “Howl from Beyond” color, and can give +X/+0.
So the three permutations of “+X” were divvied up across three colors, yet the three permutations of “-X” were all in one color. I made it my mission to get that changed. It was clear that -X/-X was going to stay black. Black could also keep -0/-X for two reasons—one, it doesn't play that much differently than -X/-X; and two, we don't really ever use it (check out Spirit Shackle, Essence Flare, Takklemaggot, and Ironclaw Curse for some very old-school cards that just give minuses to toughness). So the idea was to put Shrink somewhere else..."

and..

"So what of the other power and toughness altering combinations? For starters, cards that give -X/-Y (such a Weakness, which gives -2/-1) will remain black. The “Flowstone ability”—+X/-X—floats between black and red and might even show up in green from time to time. The reverse ability—-X/+X—is used sparingly (see Pemmin's Aura and Tyrranax for recent examples) and isn't necessarily nailed down anywhere."

Now...consider a card like Sword of Fire and Ice or Sword of Light and Shadow. Each of these has, logically, 2 abilities, each of which are very appropriate for their representative color focus (Red/Blue & White/Black). Why do I point these out? Because I think they're test-runs for stuff we're likely to see in Ravnica.

Now consider all of the two-ability Guildmages from Mirage & Invasion. Notice how each has 2 color-specific abilities that define them. I think we should expect to see an expansion of these types of abilities to the "nth degree", with almost all 'permutable' effects like +X/+X, card drawing, direct damage, life loss, etc...balanced among each color which is BEST at it, and then OK at it, and then WORST at it. Then, combining the various guilds/color combinations, you have a LOT of complexity available. Perhaps the remaining 2 (again, rumored) guilds that are supposed to appear in 2nd or 3rd set are 'meta-guilds' that give additional bonuses when you combine allied guilds.

Did any of that make sense?

The more I think about it, I think he gave us a lot of insight into what the upcoming set...without a lot of folks realizing it. (Best place to hide something is sometimes 'in plain sight'.)

Did anyone else think about this?

Quote from Alabaska J »

Sorry for double posting, but this didn't seem like an add-on for other post.

Black weenies, anyone? Of course, this deck would include shiro.

The ravnica card would work nicely in the deck.

Now...if they just reprint Attrition, it's ON.

What was the Prerelease (foily) card this time? (SOK)

Tks,
M

EDIT: never mind...found it.
http://forums.mtgnews.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37727

Quote from Plastik »

There has to has to HAS TO be something cool to do with this.

**COUGH**Threshold**COUGH**Madness**COUGH**Flashback**COUGH**Reanimator Decks**

I really should see a doctor...

Particularly Reanimator Decks...the room for abuse is probably why they made it a Rare.... Compare it to Entomb I've seen Akroma hit the table on Turn 2 using that thing...just wrong.

:jam::banana::jam: :banana::jam: :banana::jam: Some good points....I'll concede the point. Hyppie it is (probably)....let the dancing in the street comence!!

Quote from Jabberwocky »

It's not unheard of for WotC to commission a piece from an artist and then change the name of it later. In fact it happens quite regularly, often without the artists knowledge.

Thank you, Jabberwocky. :fingers:
Example: Dragon Mask's art was originally planned for, believe it or not, Firestorm Hellkite. Look it up.


And again...I humbly point out:

Quote from Morphling »

...On THE SAME SITE, he named the art for Hypnox 'Mindwiper.jpg'

If that's what's happened on Hypnox, how is it completely out of the realm of possibility that the same thing occurred w/Specter? It's pretty unlikely...but it is possible.



That, and it does look more like Abyssal Specter, but I could totally see them trying for continuity among Specter arts. That sounds like something Cranford would push for.



Please don't get me wrong...I'm psyched over the idea of Hyppie in Core Set...just not convinced. My point was simply that apart from a piece of art named 'Hypnotic Specter.jpg', again, not 100% conclusive b/c of reasons above...do we have anything else to make it a sure-fire thing?

I think they did the right thing....

I agree that some of his work adorns some of my favorite cards from ages past...but I also agree that it doesn't 'fit' much anymore. He's surrounded by a stable of eager, competent, and yes, more interesting artists...sorry dude, but your stuff just doesn't cut it anymore.

At least Guay's stands out for style...firing her was a mistake, but she should work on doing less weepy-willow-woman stuff... In contrast, Beard's stuff was just getting so...bland.

My .02¢

Apart from the fact that the image has been pulled _suddenly_ after we started discussing, nothing anyone's mentioned proves that this is Hyppie.

Just because he named his image Hypnotic_Specter.jpg doesn't exactly prove anything... He could've just as easily named the file, Black_Lotus.jpg...but that doesn't mean a thing either.

For Example: On THE SAME SITE, he named the art for Hypnox...'Mindwiper.jpg' :dance2:

Don't get me wrong...I'd love to own a couple more Hyppies...but I'm still expecting to see Abyssal Specter instead.

We'll see...