Nice write up. Short and sweet.
Also, concerning the Mishra's Factory flavor... That's an excellent point. Is it an Assembly Worker (a la Timespiral) doing the damage? Or is the factory itself animating and smacking with .. its walls?
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I don't think Souls comes in against Merfolk. Too often they don't care if you have blockers. The key is attrition. Usually your target for discard should be Silvergill (or obviously Spreading Seas if you see it). I would actually board in Fulminator here as a way to chump an attack and get their Mutavaults/ clear the "islands" from your side of the board. Obviously you'll want all the removal you can get. I would even consider bringing in Ancient Grudge to target Vial and the occasional SB nonsense like Vedalkan Shackles or Relic.
TBR is your trump card against them, but you should also expect Vapor Snag. Avoid alpha striking unless you know the coast is clear by checking with discard. Sometimes you just have to go for it though. Kolaghan's is f'ing bonkers against fish. This is a winnable match, but it can easily turn against you if they get islandwalk running.
4 Mishra's Bauble
Creatures
4 Death's Shadow
4 Street Wraith
4 Tarmogoyf
Instants
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Dismember
4 Fatal Push
3 Stubborn Denial
2 Terminate
Planeswalkers
3 Liliana of the Veil
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Thoughtseize
4 Traverse the Ulvenwald
Basic Lands
1 Swamp
Lands
1 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Marsh Flats
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Stomping Ground
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Watery Grave
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Izzet Staticaster
2 Ancient Grudge
3 Disdainful Stroke
1 Kozilek's Return
1 Stubborn Denial
1 Temur Battle Rage
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
3 Lingering Souls
1 Godless Shrine
My question is mainly how does this deck function against mana denial? A single GQ can knock you completely out of Blue mana, and afaik there isn't any real way to defend against it. Eldrazi, Tron, Bears, Junk etc. all play GQ, and this list hinges pretty heavily on counterspells.
Does anyone have input on how to SB with this deck?
So the idea is basically to keep your Watery Grave protected until it's absolutely necessary to counter a spell, rather than fetching for Blue asap and using Stubborn Denial as attrition (assuming you're concerned about GQ). This makes sense. It just seems like a huge risk, because a single LD effect can blank up to 8 cards in the deck. D:
4 Mishra's Bauble
Creatures
4 Death's Shadow
4 Street Wraith
4 Tarmogoyf
Instants
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Dismember
4 Fatal Push
3 Stubborn Denial
2 Terminate
Planeswalkers
3 Liliana of the Veil
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Thoughtseize
4 Traverse the Ulvenwald
Basic Lands
1 Swamp
Lands
1 Blood Crypt
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Marsh Flats
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Stomping Ground
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Watery Grave
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Izzet Staticaster
2 Ancient Grudge
3 Disdainful Stroke
1 Kozilek's Return
1 Stubborn Denial
1 Temur Battle Rage
1 Liliana, the Last Hope
3 Lingering Souls
1 Godless Shrine
My question is mainly how does this deck function against mana denial? A single GQ can knock you completely out of Blue mana, and afaik there isn't any real way to defend against it. Eldrazi, Tron, Bears, Junk etc. all play GQ, and this list hinges pretty heavily on counterspells.
Does anyone have input on how to SB with this deck?
I agree though, Rec Sage is way too slow. I want to be playing Lili / Traverse / Shadows / Fulmo on t3.
Any enchantment killer creatures that cost 2cmc?
Why Kozilek's Return over Pyroclasm or Anger of the Gods? Is the instant speed that important?
Does anyone care about Crib Swap ? Fills the Tribal role and takes out practically any creature we don't like. MB White isn't great, but neither is Ulamog/Smasher/etcetc.
That said, I do feel like the deck is easily hamstrung. 8 actual wincons, 4 mediocre backups. The Surgical argument is real IMO, honestly two well placed spells and the deck gets washed. Which kind of makes me want to consider Relic over Spellbomb. You can always target yourself to respond to Surgicals with it, but the blowout effect obviously nonbos with Goyf. Unless I'm thinking about this the wrong way and there's an easier solution.
Folks, does the SB plan change against Eldrazi Tron vs. conventional Tron? Their topdecks are sometimes even more insane (looking at freaking Reality Smasher).
Curious about 4 Fatal Push MB too. I feel like Terminate is going to get even better in the Main with Sun Titan walking around. 3/1 Push/Terminate ?
That handy SB attachment is great, so thanks for sharing.
I don't think Heroic Intervention is all that janky. I think it's an excellent protection spell akin to Apostle's Blessing. And as UW Titan gains more ground (which it inevitably will because of the reasons outlined above, and because it's fairly affordable to buy into [for now]) we will absolutely need to be reactive against wraths and other such horribleness. I could easily see x1 Heroic x! Apostle's show up in sideboards.
Part of me just wants to see more targeted discard, ideally with a creature attached to it.