Quote from Idrareb »This thread finally gets an interesting topic to talk about after a whole season of dead air and we ruin it by trying to define tempo and combo...
A few people said a few pages back that BGx was dead or tier w after the DRS ban.... wut? It didnt dominate for ONE GP and that was because it was misbuilt (courser is a trap card in modern bgx). Once twin took up a solid third of the top 16, BGx (particularly Junk) was pretty much the best deck in modern.
BGx will still be strong in a post Delve meta the decks just need to restructure themselves. You know, adapt. Delver is crushing Junk right now because they got a new toy (cruise) to fight against a deck that is still playing the exact same 75 it played pre khans. Delver plays 12 creatures and some decks are even cutting snapcaster and counterspells to be more proactive and draw more cards from cruise. Junk can and will adapt to that. Kill all the delvers stonewall the swiftspear and pyromancers and the deck cant win no matter hhow many cards it draws. Does junk get annihilated by Dork Storm? Yes. GOOD. Having a tier 1 deck that crushes another tier 1 deck is called BALANCE. I play twin. Lre Dig Through Time my junk matchup was like 80-20 maybe 90-10 in their favor aka hellabad. Now its still not great but the numbers are spiking.
Its just like someone said earlier: if pod had just been printed in this set people would be marching towards seattle with pitchforks and torches. Just give it time to adapt and it will. These cards are not broken and give blue a push that it did in fact need prior to khans. Golgari was the best guild to start your deck with, not close.
Quote from zemanjaskiBlue getting a most likely unplayable flier for U? Quell Horreur!
Quote from xadithSomething galls me about his article. I had a hard time putting this in words, but I'll try.
It is of my opinion:
1) Standard need very little fixing. Having good decks in the meta does not mean those decks are broken. Having a balanced meta is not synonymous with any kitchen-table brew being competitive. With that in mind, while delver might be slightly better than what WotC can be comfortable with, the meta is quite diverse and balanced. This is certainly not a one-deck meta. (as a side note, the more homogenous a metagame is, the easier it is to break. Take a look at Pat Chapin's Grixis list if you want to see something that eats Delver for breakfast). What this card is doing is marginalized UBx control even more.
2) If this card was pushed out to punish snapcaster mage, as Zac has stated was the purpose, they will be sorely disappointed. This puts the hurt on permission-based first, and only tangentially affects Delver decks. Snapcasters will still be casting vapor snags and ponders. And it can be easily played in a delver deck too, making geists and such uncounterable. If you think this makes Delver worse, you're fooling yourselves.
3) They obviously did not properly think of the ramifications in non-Standard formats. It's fine when we no true combo decks that control is somewhat subdued. But in Legacy and Modern (and I suppose Vintage , but I'm not qualified to speak about the format since I don't play it), where there is combo, and creature-based combo pieces at that, this will see play. I hope that they didn't make a huge mistake with this one.
4) His statements on some "broken" cards rubbed me the wrong way. This is as strong statement as any that remand, mana leak, signets, swords, etc... are not seeing the light of day again.
5) His statements on titans, really rubbed me the wrong way. Appetite for Brains is not a good answer! If Zac thinks memoricide shreds Wolf Run, well then I don't know what else to say! And to top it off, what sideboards would these cards go into...UB zombies will lose some tempo to play these, and oh yeah UBx control...except we hosed that pretty well with this card anyway.
Quote from xitaunwrath's? 4 beast within? i think you have looked at the wrong list. the one i'm seeing is RG, 1 beast within in SB. anyway, the only good thing against WWR in the steel list is hero of bladehold, so i bet on the ramp deck.
above, the link to the lists of the top 8
Quote from Ole_Miss_RebelConsecrated Sphinx is becoming a staple in most top control decks. He also was heavily involved (usually as a 2-of) in the Top 8 of this year's Nats.
Where's the ceiling on this guy? $20?
Quote from pxdsThey only have text coverage, is there anyway we can watch it live?
Quote from Sigismond0So, want to hear a funny story about Hex Parasite? You can take the counters off, and then attack that same planeswalker! Or suck counters off over two or three turns!
Why are you presenting it like it's a one-use card?
Quote from Vengevine"s Erasuremental misstep is good...but not $5 good.
Quote from Colorous_PiusUnless people haven't noticed yet, if you build mono-black Infect, this card becomes an MVP, making your t2 Plague Stinger or T3 Phyrexian Crusader deadly on T4 with this card. +4/+4 on T4 in a poison effectively means your opponent HAS to deal with it or it is over quick. Also, you want to do something neat, try T5 Lashwrithe (leave it unequipped and there as a blocker or something for now) and drop a T6 Skittles, pay 2 life to equip, pay B for haste. Seems slow, but if you can get rid of counters and removal early, this is a viable late game strat.
Quote from CountI'd see it more as 8 card transformative sideboard plan, enough to bring back Pyro Ascension to Standard.