I proposed to my now fiance not too long ago and let me tell you that you feel so much better after. Don't worry about and just look forward to it. If you cant just know that its very worth it.
I am in a agreement with the thought that the ones in power should help current American Indians out and who have been to a certain extent. But its absolutely rediculous for anyone to ask me to appologize for anything my ancestors may or may not have done. My ancestors came over from Germany and Sweeden around 1900 and had nothing to do with slavery, extermination of the Indians or belonged to Nazi Germany. And even if my ancestors were Indian killing, slave holding, Nazis I still wouldn't feel the need to apologize because I had no control over what family I was born into. Just like everyong else, I was born into this world without any say and then I make my own choices that I have to own up to after that. I never should have to own up to something someone who is only loosely genetically connected to me might have done. I am responsible for my own actions only.
I am sorry if that came out as just an angry rant but it is how I see it.
I've just recently started drinking beer and I'm starting to like it. I didn't have a drop of alcohol until I was 21 because I'm wierd OCD with rules but now im interested in it. I haven't had a lot of different kinds (~7) but my favorite so far is Miller High Life and Bud Lite from the light beer section.
What beer is your favorite or do you even like beer?
RE, Doubtless One: It might actually be in your interest to read the thread before posting.
I am a aware it is off the subject currently at hand but noone has successfully answered my question on this thread or the other gigantic abortion thread I started a while back.
It seem as though you are discrediting a fetus's humanity without saying what it is. Everyone says what it is not and only a few say what it is.
That's what I meant to say.
The enemies that are defeated were brave. The enemies you couldn't defeat were cowards (Vietnam... also hiding).
No, we could have won the war in Vietnam if we werent so worried about politics and civilians. We could have firebombed every stronghold and destroyed everything and everyone. We would have won, but thousands upon thousands would have died.
The same with Israel. Israel could make south Lebanon a wasteland and remove Hezbollah from the face of the earth. But they dont because they actually care for the people of Lebanon. Meanwhile Hezbollah is launching rockets into Israel trying to do as much damage as they can no matter what it is.
evrything the enemy does is what cowards do. And evrything your side does is called 'tactic'.
Dropping bombs while you don't care about what you are bombing is also something for cowards.
You call them cowards, but what do you expect? Of course they are going to hide themself, they are not stupid.
It's not easy if your enemies don't fight following your rules of war.
No.
The Germans and Italians were our enimes in WWII and they fought us military vs. military. They may have been evil at the top, but the Generals and soldiers did not hide behind their own people. I would say they fought bravely, even though they were our enimies. The Japanese soldiers were extremely brave and dediated, but they were our enimies.
Israel is presented with a choice. Hezbollah is firing rockets at its civilain populace from homes filled with women and children. They have the option of destroying the building and killing Mr. Jihad and his innocent children and wife or let Mr. Jihad continue to kill Israeli innocents indefinately. I for one would bomb the building. Better 5 innocents on their side then 40 and more on my side.
If Hezbollah is disarmed, there would be peace.
If Israel is disarmed, there would be no more Israel.
But anyways, this thread is about America not Israel right?
In more words: Sacrificing humans (ripping organs out while they were still alive) was an everyday occurance. When they started to run out of their own rabble to kill they started wars with other tribes to get more stock to slaughter (using special arrowheads to maim and not kill.) They would have parties for the crippled and mentally retarded and give them many gifts of stone necklaces and bracelets. Then they would push them into the sea. When you won a game in the town square your reward was not getting killed.
Again, it was a very good thing.
By the way, killing the aztecs happened on a way that was also against every basic of human rights.
Cortez was no angel but dont give him too much credit. The diseases he unknowingly brought over killed the natives.
And what do we see now? the USA is also doing things against human rights! In the name of protecting human rights.
Secret prisons all over the world with no laws and no rights for the prisoners.
[CARD]First make the bombs to drop on the kids in Lebanon, and after that dropping food for the people who survived...
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Maybe if Hezbolah would stop hiding in villages and civilian homes then Israel would be able to have a tiny bit of error without killing civilians. Israel does everything it can to minimize inoccent deaths (dropping phamplets telling them where there going to bomb and to get out, using prescicion guided bombs for max accuracy, not making Beriut look like Dresden like they could). Hezbolah shoots its rockets at civilians on purpose and hides behind their own people like cowards.
But isn't that actually the problem? Not to Bush-bash here, I'm sure more than enough people do so already, but he, as a president, as the chief representative of your country, is supposed to be good with a microphone in front of him. It's his job. You might want to argue that PR is not really the president's job, but in this age of mass-media, if you are the leader of a country, you better be able to express yourself in front of an audience and, in fact, your whole nation. And I do not mean "be able to read from a teleprompter". But, meh, that's just me and my romantic illusions of competence
You have a good point and yeah he really should have better public speaking skills. I just get annoyed when people correlate speaking skills with raw intelligence.
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Why? Because you don't like the guy? Because he tells some unpalatable truths about the administration? The idiot backlash against Michael Moore is based mostly upon the fact that- for once- someone is actually attacking the republicans with a weapon they have never been fond of: the truth. If you want to make yourself not sound like one of these idiots, actually address the issue he raises instead of just going "MOORE'S A COMMY, HE TELLS LIES". I suspect you would rather just dismiss it out of hand as you lack the ability to rebuff the argument properly.
Why? Because he makes movies and calls them documentaries just because one out of ten things he says is a solid truth. The rest are made to look true from that other truth.
Alright, other than saying the Chimney Imp thing. Let me tell you what I think.
good start
You are wondering why the USA has such a bad reputation worldwide and why even the USA's allies are turning a cold shoulder towards them in such matters as the war between Israel and Lebanon?
Do tell, what allies are you talking about. All of our enimies will hate anything we do so I dont care at all about what they think. And France is shockingly antisemetic.
The USA has meddled its fingers and imposed its imperialistic ways into regions of the worlds where they do not respect the local culture, religion, chidren, old men and women.
How is setting up an independant government and fighting for human rights imperialistic and culturally insinsitive. So if you lived 400 years ago and came upon the Aztecs murdering infants, women, retarted people, as well as anyone else for that matter on tops of temples it would be wrong to stop them as it is their "culture"?
The USA comes to protect its economical interests just like Europe did back in the days of Imperialism.
Yes I would agree that is part of it, but thats what makes the world go round. I'm not saying its a good standalone reason to go to war but its a good plus.
Currently four USA soldiers are standing trial in Baghdad for the rape and subsequent murder of a 14 year old girl. What a fine example of the "American Dream", of western civilisation and of the good that the USA can bring to the world. Fantastic!
No that is a terrible example of the "American Dream" and what good we can dream in the world. No sane person will admit that everyone in their country is good.
I just remember reading this article about a Croatian man raping some girl... so im pretty sure all Croatian men are rapists.
In Micheal Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11, american soldier fire tank shells onto Iraqi cities, and come in and see that they actually killed, women, children and old men, and all they have to say is "Oh ****... what did we do?". Nice.
You used Michael Moore's name. Arguement thrown out.
In the same film, it is shown that the "almighty" american president has been warned by your secret services of the possible attack on the twin towers, but didn't want to read it because the title was, and I quote, "too vague"
More of the same.
Oh and let's not forget that according to Mr Bush, "most of USA's imports come from abroad".
If I was in front of a microphone and I knew I was going to be heard by millions of people I don't even think I could get two words out. In my book he does pretty well.
[quote=gerg]Though the separation of church and state is enshrined in the US Constitution.[/quote]
Just so everyone who hasnt read the US constitution knows, there are no such words in it. The closest thin there is is the Establishment clause which reads
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
The phrase separation of "church and state" came from a letter Thomas Jefferson was writting to a group of Danbury Baptists. In that letter he used to phrase to defend the rights of the Christians and the government not controling them, not the other way around.
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Here is how I would qualify the USA president: He's like a Chimney Imp with a Jitte.
An idiotic creature with expensive weapons at his disposal. I will refrain from further comments.
Coments like these drive me up a wall. When you make a political statement please use some other arguement other than just "hes stupid" It makes you sound like a two year old whos loosing an arguement. Say why you don't agree with him or don't like what he is doing. Perhaps "I don't like Bush because of the war" or "I don't like Bush because of his military spending". Don't just say something baseless like "he sounds like a retard when he talks", seeing as one of the most intelegent humans on the planet (Stephen Hawking) can't even speak. I don't even like Bush very much.
I am a Follower of Christ and do not claim a denomination (though I do worship and belong to a fellowship at a denominational Church). I believe firmly in not ever judging another Christian about whether they are a true believer and follower or not. In James it says that you can know a believer by their fruit (or fruit of the spirit (love, joy, peace, patience, goodness, faithfullness, gentleness and self controll) and or deeds giving glory to the father). If a proclaimed Christain shows little or no fruit then they are likely not a follower but I can and will not ever claim to know. Therefore im never going to call a catholic not a "true christian". There are many Catholics who go to Mass then live a complete different life than that of a believer. But the same goes for Southern Baptists. It all comes down to who truely believes the Gospel and lives it.
Best of luck to you.
I am sorry if that came out as just an angry rant but it is how I see it.
What beer is your favorite or do you even like beer?
I am a aware it is off the subject currently at hand but noone has successfully answered my question on this thread or the other gigantic abortion thread I started a while back.
It seem as though you are discrediting a fetus's humanity without saying what it is. Everyone says what it is not and only a few say what it is.
"A fetus is not a human"
Then I ask.
"What is a fetus?"
If it is a human organism, what makes it different from ones outside of the fetus?
I guess thats accurate, but im more of a social conservative and fiscal libertarian.
People screaming "Death to America" dont really bother me because they are just powerless rabble.
No, we could have won the war in Vietnam if we werent so worried about politics and civilians. We could have firebombed every stronghold and destroyed everything and everyone. We would have won, but thousands upon thousands would have died.
The same with Israel. Israel could make south Lebanon a wasteland and remove Hezbollah from the face of the earth. But they dont because they actually care for the people of Lebanon. Meanwhile Hezbollah is launching rockets into Israel trying to do as much damage as they can no matter what it is.
No.
The Germans and Italians were our enimes in WWII and they fought us military vs. military. They may have been evil at the top, but the Generals and soldiers did not hide behind their own people. I would say they fought bravely, even though they were our enimies. The Japanese soldiers were extremely brave and dediated, but they were our enimies.
Israel is presented with a choice. Hezbollah is firing rockets at its civilain populace from homes filled with women and children. They have the option of destroying the building and killing Mr. Jihad and his innocent children and wife or let Mr. Jihad continue to kill Israeli innocents indefinately. I for one would bomb the building. Better 5 innocents on their side then 40 and more on my side.
If Hezbollah is disarmed, there would be peace.
If Israel is disarmed, there would be no more Israel.
But anyways, this thread is about America not Israel right?
In not so many words, YES.
In more words: Sacrificing humans (ripping organs out while they were still alive) was an everyday occurance. When they started to run out of their own rabble to kill they started wars with other tribes to get more stock to slaughter (using special arrowheads to maim and not kill.) They would have parties for the crippled and mentally retarded and give them many gifts of stone necklaces and bracelets. Then they would push them into the sea. When you won a game in the town square your reward was not getting killed.
Again, it was a very good thing.
Cortez was no angel but dont give him too much credit. The diseases he unknowingly brought over killed the natives.
And what do we see now? the USA is also doing things against human rights! In the name of protecting human rights.
Secret prisons all over the world with no laws and no rights for the prisoners.
[CARD]First make the bombs to drop on the kids in Lebanon, and after that dropping food for the people who survived...
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Maybe if Hezbolah would stop hiding in villages and civilian homes then Israel would be able to have a tiny bit of error without killing civilians. Israel does everything it can to minimize inoccent deaths (dropping phamplets telling them where there going to bomb and to get out, using prescicion guided bombs for max accuracy, not making Beriut look like Dresden like they could). Hezbolah shoots its rockets at civilians on purpose and hides behind their own people like cowards.
You have a good point and yeah he really should have better public speaking skills. I just get annoyed when people correlate speaking skills with raw intelligence.
Why? Because he makes movies and calls them documentaries just because one out of ten things he says is a solid truth. The rest are made to look true from that other truth.
good start
Do tell, what allies are you talking about. All of our enimies will hate anything we do so I dont care at all about what they think. And France is shockingly antisemetic.
How is setting up an independant government and fighting for human rights imperialistic and culturally insinsitive. So if you lived 400 years ago and came upon the Aztecs murdering infants, women, retarted people, as well as anyone else for that matter on tops of temples it would be wrong to stop them as it is their "culture"?
Yes I would agree that is part of it, but thats what makes the world go round. I'm not saying its a good standalone reason to go to war but its a good plus.
No that is a terrible example of the "American Dream" and what good we can dream in the world. No sane person will admit that everyone in their country is good.
I just remember reading this article about a Croatian man raping some girl... so im pretty sure all Croatian men are rapists.
You used Michael Moore's name. Arguement thrown out.
More of the same.
If I was in front of a microphone and I knew I was going to be heard by millions of people I don't even think I could get two words out. In my book he does pretty well.
Just so everyone who hasnt read the US constitution knows, there are no such words in it. The closest thin there is is the Establishment clause which reads
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
The phrase separation of "church and state" came from a letter Thomas Jefferson was writting to a group of Danbury Baptists. In that letter he used to phrase to defend the rights of the Christians and the government not controling them, not the other way around.
Coments like these drive me up a wall. When you make a political statement please use some other arguement other than just "hes stupid" It makes you sound like a two year old whos loosing an arguement. Say why you don't agree with him or don't like what he is doing. Perhaps "I don't like Bush because of the war" or "I don't like Bush because of his military spending". Don't just say something baseless like "he sounds like a retard when he talks", seeing as one of the most intelegent humans on the planet (Stephen Hawking) can't even speak. I don't even like Bush very much.
-No.
What kind of organism is it?
-Not any kind of organism.
No that is imposible.
-A human organism then?
Yes.
-So a separate human organism?
Yes.
What is murder?
-Killing someone.
What kind of someone?
-A human.
So killing a fetus that is at any stage a human organism is murder?
-I guess so.