Quote from CrimeoCan somebody please briefly outline an example of the most common draw-in situation in a large pro type tournament? Don't have any experience with those, only FNM, and keeping track of a lot of rounds realistically is really difficult with made-up results.
So lets say you have a 64 man swiss tourney cut to top 8. I believe that's 6 rounds, and any more is 7 rounds. Its currently round 6, so far there have been 0 draws, which is abnormal, but meh.
After round 1 you have:
After round 2 you have:
After round 3:
After round 4:
After round 5:
Cuts are to top 8.
In terms of cuts, the WER looks at 4 things, first it checks points. Most points go in. If multiple players have equal points, it then checks opponent match win percentage, and the player who played better opponents gets higher seed. If those are equal, it checks your game win percentage (so more 2-0s are better, and 1-1s are bad), and if those are equal, it looks at opponent game win percentage. We'll only need to worry about the first one.
So our tournament has these players:
We only care about the 5-0s and 4-1s. There are 12, lets letter them A-L.
If every game is played out, and every person on the left wins, A is 6-0, and B, C, E, G, I, and K are 5-1. They all get in. That leaves 1 spots for a 4-2s. These will almost certainly be either D, F, H, J, or L but it could be one of the 10 winners in the 3-2 bracket. Such a 3-2 player would have to have played at least one of the current 5-1s though. Essentially it all comes down to opponent wins.
Wow what happens if all top 12 players tiebreak?
A and B are 5-0-1. Everyone else is 4-1-1. A and B get in, and of C-L, 6 get in. Essentially, it comes down to who out of C-Ls opponents did best. And the only person affected badly is the 3-2 player who won in round 6 and had the best standing, and even then, only maybe.
Now it does get more confusing with byes, since if there are 3+ people with 4-0-1 coming into round 5, the 5-0 guys must draw to be certain they get in.
Quote from McMTGHere is an example
Top 8 guys ID, 9 & 10 played cause of bad tiebreakers.
The guys 11 to 32 did have a chance to make top 8 if EVERYONE PLAYED. But because of ID shenanigans they didn't.
This isn't strictly true. Only the top guys from 11-32 going into round 13(?) had a chance. The guy in 32nd after round 12 had no more chance than the guy in 1006th.