Have you considered splashing black to get plague stinger?
Flying infect for 1B
I dunno what other cards would work but it would give you some utility and doom blade if you need some removal in the sideboard.
in the deck im running him in right now (mono red) it doesn't matter if im going to use it im paying anyhow so yeah I'd do it but my deck usually wins by round 4 anyhow, so not really usually concerned with someone else being able to do that much damage just focusing on doing it myself.
Though if Vault Skirge was my only 1 drop I would have probably Mulligan'd.
does Into the Roil work on the same premise as unsummon when you target your own creatures? Like unsummoning a creature after you declare it a blocker?
Say if someone cast a shatter to destroy a artifact could you hit your artifact with Into the Roil and pull it back to your hand since it goes above the shatter on the stack?
What is the point of having so many diffrent creatures.
I think you need to focus more on the creatures that are going to get you -1 / -1 counters and make you able to perliferate them. aka get 4 of the good creatures and drop the rest. Great creatures would be Necropede, Blighted Agent, Corpse Cur is ok, Fume Spitter specially with corpse cur. This will help you control the board. I have also found Ichorclaw Myr to be really nice because people tend to just take the poison than loose a 3/3 to a myr lol.
Also no Inexorable Tide in a proliferate deck that has blue? Id say you need a couple at least.
If you run artifact heavy you should also consider throne of geth. I mean it's a quick kill if you have a contagion engine in . if you run Ichor Wellspring it will give you some draw and something to sac to throne of geth. Also Core Prowler works great with it for double proliferates. As well as not needing to get a Necopede killed to put a infect counter on something if you need to.
In the sideboard if you want to add a equipment or instant to give you a little more bite you may consider Livewire Lash or Vampire's Bite, I think they are better especially since you only have 5 swamps and the parobability of getting even 3 out at once is pretty low to benifit Lashwrithe.
Id also run 4 Inkmoth Nexus if it's in your budget. Other Dual lands as well if you can.
Nice I never thought of using Crumbling Ashes I guess i could find room for it. now to find a place to cut some fat lol.
I ended up cutting Preordain for it because 2, while a nice card just don't equal the power of Crumbling Ashes not to mention scrying isn't part of the deck's main point while killing -1/-1 counter having creatures every turn is!
A card i recently discovered is Blowfly Infestation. Seems like a logical choice with the need of the counters to go to other creatures after they are killed by Crumbling Ashes. Now just figuring out how to work these into the deck and getting my hands on a couple of them.
Would be funny to see a Necropede die (with both blowfly infestation and necroskitter out) on my side put a -1/-1 on a random 1/1 and whipe all their 1/1's off the board and take control of all of them lol. would be awesome against a myr deck ROFLMAO.
Since most the creatures I have in the deck that are not the feature cards are artifacts im considering throne of geth. It's a cheap easy way to proliferate ever other turn that I cast a artifact. I can attack with it put the poison or -1/-1 counter down and the proliferate it by sacing the creature i just attacked with. Adding Ichor Wellspring may be good also for adding draw and giving throne of geth a target to sac to.
Ditched Scar for Virulent Wound as it's a far superior card for removing those pesky */1's and you get a free poison counter for doing it.
(update) A variant of this deck placed 7th at my local event I was building it for. I got beat by a caw blade deck in round 3. Then went on to play 1 game on the lossers bracket in which I lost. Deck was 5/4 overall.
Definitely needs some work.
That is the first awesome suggestion in this entire thread. Sure, it probably won't be used to attack, but getting out Superion is a very good use. It's a lot better than Voltaic Key, which just sits there collecting dust.
Voltaic Key gives you a extra myr token per turn from resivour though.
Anyone running a Extended deck with these? I have been kicking the idea as i have a full play set of mass polymorphs and a few of the bigs guys like Emrakul, the Aeons Torn.
Any of the ones I have one of you would see doing me alot of good getting a full play set?
I really like the cenergy of Myr Battlesphere and Kuldotha Forgemaster
but Id almost have to dump white and go for the whole Forgemaster deck to get it to work right all the time.
I started out with the base model "Myr of Mirrodin" starter deck and added some more stuff I felt the deck could use. It does fair in casual games but I wanna step it up a bit for a Extended Tourney Coming up soon.
Please note this deck was built with what I have available right now I hope to trade or buy what I need to improve it. (So be kind)
My thoughts are that If i can lay down the Kuldotha Forgemaster to retrive a Myr Battlesphere I'll still be up one myr in the end. If I don't get either of those out I can simply over run them with myr. I also like the thought of getting Whispersilk Cloak on Myr Battlesphere it would be a ender if you had at least 6 myr out.
I also need help coming up with a good sideboard for this, This is my first extended outing so I have no idea what to be wary of.
Thrummingbird could be a huge help especially if paired with Hermetic Study (or whatever the equipable artifact that does this is) and you can proliferate every turn till they nuke it.
Are there no fetch lands for non-basic lands? I'm looking for something that could help me get 1 of each Urza lands faster. Only thing I'm finding is Tolaria West, and it's 3 mana to transmute... and I'm not even sure if I can transmute an Urza Land.
If it was a artifact with 0 casting cost you could but I don't think that will work on Urza lands. what about adding some scry cards?
spawning pit looks like a shoe in for this deck as well.
Im loving serrated arrows that is the shizzznit not only does it give out -1/-1 counters it's also keeps charging each time you proliferate to make more infected counters.
Everflowing Chalice also looks like it could be a nice mana battery. or if anything a good sacrifice when you have enough mana.
from what I'm seeing here I think we might have something ill mess around and see what I can come up with from what we got going now.
Flying infect for 1B
I dunno what other cards would work but it would give you some utility and doom blade if you need some removal in the sideboard.
Though if Vault Skirge was my only 1 drop I would have probably Mulligan'd.
Say if someone cast a shatter to destroy a artifact could you hit your artifact with Into the Roil and pull it back to your hand since it goes above the shatter on the stack?
I think you need to focus more on the creatures that are going to get you -1 / -1 counters and make you able to perliferate them. aka get 4 of the good creatures and drop the rest. Great creatures would be Necropede, Blighted Agent, Corpse Cur is ok, Fume Spitter specially with corpse cur. This will help you control the board. I have also found Ichorclaw Myr to be really nice because people tend to just take the poison than loose a 3/3 to a myr lol.
Also no Inexorable Tide in a proliferate deck that has blue? Id say you need a couple at least.
If you run artifact heavy you should also consider throne of geth. I mean it's a quick kill if you have a contagion engine in . if you run Ichor Wellspring it will give you some draw and something to sac to throne of geth. Also Core Prowler works great with it for double proliferates. As well as not needing to get a Necopede killed to put a infect counter on something if you need to.
In the sideboard if you want to add a equipment or instant to give you a little more bite you may consider Livewire Lash or Vampire's Bite, I think they are better especially since you only have 5 swamps and the parobability of getting even 3 out at once is pretty low to benifit Lashwrithe.
Id also run 4 Inkmoth Nexus if it's in your budget. Other Dual lands as well if you can.
Sideboard go for the throat for vs Black Decks.
I ended up cutting Preordain for it because 2, while a nice card just don't equal the power of Crumbling Ashes not to mention scrying isn't part of the deck's main point while killing -1/-1 counter having creatures every turn is!
A card i recently discovered is Blowfly Infestation. Seems like a logical choice with the need of the counters to go to other creatures after they are killed by Crumbling Ashes. Now just figuring out how to work these into the deck and getting my hands on a couple of them.
Would be funny to see a Necropede die (with both blowfly infestation and necroskitter out) on my side put a -1/-1 on a random 1/1 and whipe all their 1/1's off the board and take control of all of them lol. would be awesome against a myr deck ROFLMAO.
Since most the creatures I have in the deck that are not the feature cards are artifacts im considering throne of geth. It's a cheap easy way to proliferate ever other turn that I cast a artifact. I can attack with it put the poison or -1/-1 counter down and the proliferate it by sacing the creature i just attacked with. Adding Ichor Wellspring may be good also for adding draw and giving throne of geth a target to sac to.
Ditched Scar for Virulent Wound as it's a far superior card for removing those pesky */1's and you get a free poison counter for doing it.
(update) A variant of this deck placed 7th at my local event I was building it for. I got beat by a caw blade deck in round 3. Then went on to play 1 game on the lossers bracket in which I lost. Deck was 5/4 overall.
Definitely needs some work.
4 Guul Draz Assassin
2 Ichor Rats
2 Ichorclaw Myr
4 Kulrath Knight
4 Necropede
2 Necroskitter
4 Plague Myr
2 Plague Stinger
2 Thrummingbird
Sorcery
2 Black Sun's Zenith
4 Crumbling Ashes
Enchantment
2 Inexorable Tide
Land
4 Inkmoth Nexus
4 Drowned Catacomb
4 Island
4 Quicksand
4 Swamp
4 Terramorphic Expanse
2 Doom Blade
4 Virulent Wound
2 Steady Progress
2 Tainted Strike
Artifact
3 Contagion Clasp
1 Contagion Engine
Planeswalker
2 Jace Beleren
4 Deathmark
4 Mana Leak
2 Vampire's Bite
3 Tumble Magnet
2 Tainted Strike
Maybeboard
2 Blowfly Infestation
2 Dispise
2 Throne of Geth
Deck concept is typical infect in the low range but when the deck starts rolling, Kulrath Knight lets all the infect go thru.
I wish Serrated Arrows was still legal in extended.
Also I know I need more dual land but I ran out of money before the tournament date so I'll have to improve after.
Or if you want to comment on the deck on Tappedout (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/infection-evolution/
Voltaic Key gives you a extra myr token per turn from resivour though.
one blue tap i sac one of my Ichor Wellspring then draw a card, then put into play for free my Blightsteel Colossus or a Myr Battlesphere or one of your Kuldotha Forgemaster .
It would probably do well with Myr Battlesphere and kuldotha forgemaster too if you ran a bunch of low cost artifact creatures.
I really like the cenergy of Myr Battlesphere and Kuldotha Forgemaster
but Id almost have to dump white and go for the whole Forgemaster deck to get it to work right all the time.
4 Perilous Myr
4 Gold Myr
3 Myr Galvanizer
3 Myr Battlesphere
3 Palladium Myr
2 Myr Propagator
2 Myrsmith
2 Salvage Scout
1 Sunblast Angel
1 Kuldotha Forgemaster
1 Razor Hippogriff
2 Auriok Edgewright
4 Arrest
2 Seize the Initiative
2 Inspired Charge
1 Dispense Justice
1 Whispersilk Cloak
1 Voltaic Key
Please note this deck was built with what I have available right now I hope to trade or buy what I need to improve it. (So be kind)
My thoughts are that If i can lay down the Kuldotha Forgemaster to retrive a Myr Battlesphere I'll still be up one myr in the end. If I don't get either of those out I can simply over run them with myr. I also like the thought of getting Whispersilk Cloak on Myr Battlesphere it would be a ender if you had at least 6 myr out.
I also need help coming up with a good sideboard for this, This is my first extended outing so I have no idea what to be wary of.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=29975
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If it was a artifact with 0 casting cost you could but I don't think that will work on Urza lands. what about adding some scry cards?
Im loving serrated arrows that is the shizzznit not only does it give out -1/-1 counters it's also keeps charging each time you proliferate to make more infected counters.
Everflowing Chalice also looks like it could be a nice mana battery. or if anything a good sacrifice when you have enough mana.
from what I'm seeing here I think we might have something ill mess around and see what I can come up with from what we got going now.
More cards that would be good
Thopter Squadron
Shifting Wall
lol a ever growing wall mwhahah and it's artifact.
Card list to build from thus far..
Spawning pit
Serrated Arrows
Everflowing Chalice
Spike Feeder
Spike Breeder
Throne of Geth
Contagion Engine
Contagion Clasp
Thopter Squadron
Shifting Wall
merged.
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