Curious what folks' here that are on the Tropical Train feel about possibly running Beast Within as our premier removal spell. Doesn't hurt to cast, deals with everything, minor drawback. I haven't tried it yet but have been looking for a good Dismember replacement. Fetch/shock + phyrexian mana don't mix well.
Here's my Atarka Goblins list I built post GP Detroit /Eldrazi Winter last year. I break it out occasionally to catch slower meta's off guard, suffers a lot Vs lots of removal so I am trying out the Reforge in the sb.
Siphoner is sooooo good, I couldn't see cutting any number. I have won so many games off the back of it, its almost not fair. Menace is super key and the draw power is really off the charts. Auto 4 of in any Black based deck for its life in Standard imho. I have considered Bearer, but not being able to block is an issue for me. I really had no trouble keeping the way clear for my Zombie-Croc to get through and reset itself, most times it required a lot of 2 for 1s to get it off the board. Really liked Murder last night as well, pretty relevant against just about everything, cept the damn U/W Approach decks, so close to finally cracking that deck, Gonti was huge in getting his 1st one last, whiffed on the second and couldn't draw enough threat so. Really like the deck right now, seems to do well against a lot, just got some really janky draws and weird all removal or discard draws and no real threats.
Been kicking the tires on the mono B version of this and I have really enjoyed it. It feels like it is positioned really well for the current meta. Control can be a little tricky as game 1 all or most of the removal is dead, but the ability to side into a bunch of discard helps. Did get Rick-rolled by B/G Sneks but I drew no removal in the 1 match-up I've had. Was playing with 2x Drana's and no Kalitas(traded away long ago 😠) and although Drana was dope if she stuck, unfortunately she died a lot, quickly. So, going to try and get a little more aggressive and play some Ammit Eternal 's. Never / Return felt too slow, so I think I am going to try Murder out for tonight. Side seems pretty good cept I am thinking about swapping Crooks out for Scarab Feast, as again Crook felt slow and at least Feast can cycle if needed. Here is my updated list. Another thing I wanted to address was that I was flooding out way too much so I cut 1 land and am trying out a couple utility lands.
Playing with Nimble Obstructionist this past weekend was a lot of fun. Favorite play was Stiflein a Westvale Abbey activation attempting to flip. Stops so many relevant things, even against Rumunap Red, you can counter combat attack triggers or just make a decent blocker post tricks. I did find that 4 was a bit too much as it is a bit squishy.
I had been running it as a fun of, but always wanted a 2nd Ulamog over it and now that Karn seems to be the defacto top end threat, I'm not sure how good it is right now.
Only card's that have any real value are the Ulamog's, Chandra's and Marvel's. Of those, Ulamog was already around 15-20$ before Ahmonkhet and will probably settle back to that level, Marvel will tank to 2-4$ and Chandra probably back to 5. Fast land's will hold value and the rest of the deck is common and uncommons, so...
4x Foundry Street Denizen
4x Goblin Bushwhacker
4x Goblin Guide
3x Goblin Piledriver
4x Legion Loyalist
4x Mogg Fanatic
4x Mogg War Marshal
2x Reckless Bushwhacker
1x Shared Animosity
Land (19)
4x Copperline Gorge
6x Mountain
3x Ramunap Ruins
2x Stomping Ground
4x Wooded Foothills
Instant (7)
3x Atarka's Command
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Goblin Grenade
1x Crumble to Dust
4x Destructive Revelry
3x Forked Bolt
1x Heroic Intervention
1x Pithing Needle
1x Reforge the Soul
2x Roast
2x Tormod's Crypt
4x Aether Hub
4x Blooming Marsh
4x Botanical Sanctum
2x Forest
1x Hashep Oasis
2x Island
2x Swamp
Sorcery (6)
4x Attune with Aether
2x Driven / Despair
4x Deeproot Champion
4x Glint-Sleeve Siphoner
3x Hostage Taker
4x Rogue Refiner
3x Winding Constrictor
Instant (15)
4x Blossoming Defense
4x Fatal Push
4x Opt
3x Unsummon
2x Riddleform
2x Appetite for the Unnatural
1x Cartouche of Ambition
3x Duress
2x Essence Scatter
3x Negate
1x Spell Pierce
1x The Scarab God
2x Vraska's Contempt
4x Aether Hub
4x Blooming Marsh
4x Botanical Sanctum
2x Forest
1x Hashep Oasis
2x Island
2x Swamp
Instant (16)
4x Blossoming Defense
4x Fatal Push
4x Opt
1x Spell Pierce
3x Unsummon
4x Deeproot Champion
4x Glint-Sleeve Siphoner
3x Hostage Taker
4x Rogue Refiner
3x Winding Constrictor
Sorcery (7)
4x Attune with Aether
3x Driven / Despair
4x Duress
2x Gonti, Lord of Luxury
2x Hour of Glory
3x Negate
3x Scarab Feast
1x The Scarab God
4x Aether Hub
4x Blooming Marsh
4x Botanical Sanctum
2x Forest
1x Hashep Oasis
2x Island
2x Swamp
Sorcery (7)
4x Attune with Aether
3x Driven / Despair
3x Bristling Hydra
4x Deeproot Champion
4x Glint-Sleeve Siphoner
4x Rogue Refiner
3x Winding Constrictor
Instant (16)
4x Blossoming Defense
4x Fatal Push
4x Opt
4x Unsummon
2x Bontu's Last Reckoning
3x Duress
2x Gonti, Lord of Luxury
1x Heroic Intervention
2x Hour of Glory
3x Negate
2x Scarab Feast
4x Aether Hub
2x Blighted Fen
1x Endless Sands
1x Hostile Desert
4x Ifnir Deadlands
1x Sea Gate Wreckage
11x Swamp
Planeswalker (3)
3x Liliana, the Last Hope
3x Ammit Eternal
4x Gifted Aetherborn
4x Glint-Sleeve Siphoner
4x Matter Reshaper
4x Reality Smasher
4x Thought-Knot Seer
Instant (10)
4x Fatal Push
4x Grasp of Darkness
2x Murder
2x Bontu's Last Reckoning
2x Crook of Condemnation
1x Dispossess
2x Doomfall
2x Gonti, Lord of Luxury
1x Lost Legacy
1x Ob Nixilis Reignited
2x Transgress the Mind
2x Yahenni's Expertise
3x Archangel Avacyn
2x Kefnet the Mindful
3x Nimble Obstructionist
4x Selfless Spirit
4x Spell Queller
4x Thraben Inspector
Instant (8)
2x Blessed Alliance
3x Censor
3x Supreme Will
2x Irrigated Farmland
5x Island
7x Plains
4x Port Town
4x Prairie Stream
2x Westvale Abbey
Sorcery (2)
2x Declaration in Stone
Enchantment (2)
2x Cast Out
Planeswalker (4)
4x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
2x Authority of the Consuls
2x Aven Mindcensor
1x Cast Out
1x Crook of Condemnation
1x Dispel
2x Essence Scatter
3x Fumigate
2x Negate
1x Skywhaler's Shot
4x Archangel Avacyn
4x Nimble Obstructionist
4x Selfless Spirit
4x Spell Queller
4x Thraben Inspector
Instant (8)
4x Censor
4x Supreme Will
4x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
Land (24)
2x Irrigated Farmland
6x Island
8x Plains
4x Port Town
4x Prairie Stream
Sorcery (2)
2x Declaration in Stone
2x Cast Out
1x Authority of the Consuls
2x Aven Mindcensor
1x Cast Out
2x Crook of Condemnation
2x Forsake the Wordly
3x Fumigate
1x Gideon's Defeat
1x Jace's Defeat
2x Negate