Quote from Drakon »Hi ISBP! What are your thoughts about Heraldic Banner? Could it be considered another anthem effect for Vampires (which are mostly black)?
Quote from ArgonathDK »Thank you so much for your answer. They make so much sense, and I almost feel stupid when you explain it, cause it just seem SO obv
Do you run Dech Tech's on youtube or anywhere else, that one can follow?
Thanks again, this is SO much help.
Quote from ArgonathDK »
Thank you so much. I already had my eyes on Yawgmoth, but I have never played with Necropotence even though I know it's a very strong card. To be honest I don't quiet understand the card, and how to use it, but know I guess I have to learn
I see btw that you almost don't run any removal. Do you rely on pushing through with your Vampires, or that your other opponents just takes care of it? I quickly find my self as the arch nemesis in the game, for obvious reasons, so ppl are hesitant when it comes to remove anything that works against me, meaning I almost always have to fight my own battles, and can't rely on politics like with other decks.
Does this deck only win if one doens't run into too many wipes? What was your game plan?
How do you feel about Selfless Spirit as a little protection? It even keeps the curve down.
Also, I see you run Obelisk of Urd, so how do you feel about Venerated Loxodon in the deck?
Quote from jakethewhale »What do you think about Rankle, Master of Pranks? His ability to sacrifice creatures seems good to keep opponents' boards clear while we have tokens to spare. If opponents don't have threatening creatures, the hand attack can be strong, and we likely run enough draw to compensate anyway.
Quote from ArgonathDK »
I totally agree with this, and that everyone has to be at the same powerlevel. I just think that some ppl rate markov higher than he is, due to them not running board wipes, removal etc. and it just sounded like you didn't play it due to it's speed. This makes alot more sense
Anyway, if it's not too much to ask, could I then get you to have a look at my current deck version, and make suggestions? The cards in my "Maybe" list are cards that I own and bought at the very beginnning before I read your post here, and decided to go low curve
I'm also willing to buy more cards, but atm there is no room for mana crypt and cards at a simular price.
I really appriciate all your help. My current playgroup likes the pressure from this deck, and are running decks at the same powerlevel, so don't feel shy suggesting powerful cards , muhahaha
Quote from ArgonathDK »@ISBPathfinder
Sorry for not responding before now, but have been out sick.
Thank you so much, for your very in depth answer, it was really helpful, and when I asked my self alot of the questions you asked, then I have to agree with you.
Two questions though
You say that you are not playing it due to it being a bit fast in your current meta, so my question is....isn't that the point of an aggro deck? Imo its a valid strategy, and even in a steady playing group, ppl will have to be ready for all tactics, it being mill or aggro. Agreeing on not playing aggro leads to deck building that are unatural imo, bc ppl are then able to build around it, and not care. The deck is fast yes, the Emminence trigger is powerful yes, but imo not overpowered. I think ppl rate the powerlevel higher than it sohuld be only due to them not having any aggro answers in their deck.
I would very much like to hear your thoughts on this
Last question is about one last Enchantment, and you will properbly just tell me the same as you did above, but I have just found my selv in several situations now, where this would have helped me to push through, giving a flying vampire this buff, or a non-blockable one.
Once again, thank you so much for this thread. Having only played Commander for 3-4 months, this is the thread I have enjoyed the most, and I still play my Markov deck with big excitement
Quote from ArgonathDK »Still a huge help. My version is a bit more budget friendly, so I don't have the same freedom. But you post here had a lot of new information, and you experience with the deck is SO valuable for me, that never played it before. I'm testing my own version for the first time tonight, with a low 43 Creature mana curve.
I my self love Patriarch's Bidding and are also thinking about Command The Dreadhorde to bring back the value when board wipes are unstoppable
Either way, thanks for posting, and hoping you will return to The Vampire Lord in the near future. Will look for your posts
Quote from Chaos Milk Tea »Oh wow, I'm glad I found this deck list. I've been refining my deck for a yearish and this list looks like it's basically where my deck was going to end up. It's actually kind of spooky since you've already gone ahead and removed some of the cards I'm currently planning to replace like Impact Tremors and Metallic Mimic. It's like seeing my own deck but in the future, lol. Also thank you so much for mentioning Yawgmoth, Thran Physician. I wouldn't have thought to try a 4 mana sac outlet but he actually does SO MUCH for the deck.
I'd like to get some thoughts from everyone on the following cards.
Dusk Legion Zealot: Is it just me or is this card actually kind of slow? I'm starting to wonder if the draw 1 is worth a 2 mana 1/1. Certainly slot efficient, but not tempo efficient.Purphoros, God of the Forge: People are really scared of this card, but I'm starting to think it might need to go for the same reason as Impact tremors. Purphoros is a powerful card, but it gets cast so late and has no immediate impact unless you have tons of mana and a full hand. Most of the time this card gets me targeted and killed before it can do much.Stromkirk Condemned: I used to avoid this card like the plague since it seemed like it would just lose me card advantage. Now that the deck is much better at refilling the hand though, it's starting to look like a second Legion Lieutenant.Humble Defector: A different kind of reckless card draw. It doesn't draw immediately but it has gotten me politics points while keeping my hand full. Sometimes it stops working if you are the archenemy.Adaptive Automaton: I originally avoided this card for not being a vampire on cast, but now I'm starting to think that any anthem that gets pumped by my other anthems may be worth including. That is, at least until we get new vampires from Zendikar in 2020.
Quote from ArgonathDK »@ISBPathfinder
I know you don't play the deck anymore, and I'm not sure if you are still around, but would very much like your opnions on the following cards, in a low mana curve build.
Etchings of the Chosen
Sanguine Bond in combo with Blind Obedience and all the other lifelink.
Command the dreadhorde and Patriarch's Bidding
Sorin, Solemn Visitor and Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants
Quote from Vlasiax »You might be interested in a little combo that I've found on someone's decklist on tappedout: Phyrexian Altar + Cloudstone Curio + 1 CMC Vampire. In my build I already use Altar as an extender because it let's me cast more 1 CMC Vampires so at least for me adding another artifact might be worth it.
Quote from ArgonathDK »Hi @ISBPathfinder
I can see that you have edited you OP "Last edited by ISBPathfinder: Jul 2, 2019". My guess is that this also concerns the decklist it self?
Thank you in advance for this great thread. Very helpful
Quote from WizardMN »Kess can cast Instants in the Graveyard since you, basically, look at them as Instants or Sorceries and then see if anything lets you cast them. Normally, this is the normal rules, but Kess allows this as well.
Toshiro is different since Toshiro targets and they are never instants or sorceries to be targeted in the graveyard.
"An adventurer card is a creature card in every zone except the stack, as well as while on the stack if not cast as an Adventure. Ignore its alternative characteristics in those cases. For example, while it’s in your graveyard, Giant Killer is a white creature card whose converted mana cost is 1. It can’t be the target of the triggered ability of Mystic Sanctuary."
Quote from EonAon »Blade of the Bloodchief should be considered as well if you go equip route. not that your going to have a lot of sac outlets but any you do use really ramps up most of the deck
Quote from Vlasiax »So it might be better to run Open the Armory to get additional chance to hit Skullclamp, which draws ton of cards? But besides that I don't think there's an equipement or even aura that might be an additional target for this tutor.
Quote from Vlasiax »What do you guys think about Cauldron Haze as a means to double the number of nontoken bodies to sacrifice? Am I right that these 1/1s come to the battlefield first and then die due to -1/-1 counter being put AFTER coming to battlefield?
EDIT: Also to get more card draw do you think that Night's Whisper and maybe Costly Plunder might be an option?
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And what is the budget and format restriction?