Because cyan is not suspicious of karn's attack on you specifically, he is suspicious of karn in general, and has provided reasons why he thinks so.
As part of his suspicon of karn, any actions karn makes, including attacking you, falls under scrutiny as a potential scum action.
Your actions are completely different to this because the only reason you're attacking karn is because he attacked you, and your entire defence/case on karn is about how you are town and he attacked you, making him scum.
Now that I've answered your question, why do you think karn is scum?
I've listed other reasons for being skeptical of Karn. For example, Wheat_Grinder always defending him, but him not even recognizing Wheat_Grinder; The 180 on Megiddo, etc. You think Cyan's skepticism is more valid than mine - whatever forever. But don't say stuff that's not even true.
Sure, I do indeed think Cyan's scepticism is more valid. Is it not natural for the better laid out and explained argument to be more persuasive?
What did I say that isn't true?
@Godot - Why would it matter what I think about you two when you're convinced that Karn is scum?
It matters what "[you] think about [us] two when [I'm] convinced that Karn is scum" because I don't want to be associated with scum.
But like you said, you and karn have not had a single friendly exchange this game. Would I not be more likely to consider you two a dichotomoy rather than being associated with each other?
That's what I thought, but according to, you know, YOU
It's almost humorous you think we're working together. The idea of people perceiving that had honestly not crossed my mind.
@Karn, maybe because we're so publicly and consistently against each other? As if it were an act? Maybe you should start being nicer to me. ;P We were in the same boat in the beginning when we both voted Prophylaxis, but I don't think we've had a single friendly exchange, and perhaps he finds that as suspicious as players who ONLY have friendly exchanges. (I.e. wheat to you) just a thought. It's not true of course, but I'm tying to ascertain what he's thinking exactly.
What I'm looking at now, however, is how you're now suddenly aware of how others perceive your interactions with karn, and are trying to change that perception.
I don't think Deathjoey has necessarily shown himself to be town, but I think Prophylaxis is onto something when he says he doesn't like to vote lurkers on Day 1. If we ARE going to lynch a lurker, it should be Hookerpunch. Deathjoey is posting so infrequently that I think there might be something distracting him IRL. Hookerpunch posts more often, but never actually posts solid content. At leat when Deathjoey posts he makes a solid effort. Although, his last post was pretty sketchy. The questions he asked were things nobody else had really been talking about, which is fine, but should warrant a follow-up.
Did you just not look at this post where I literally was the first person to mention Hookerpunchas you became the popular lynch vote, or is it irrelevant because my name isn't Cyan?
I'll admit I didn't see this post until you pointed it out to me.
In my post, I'm looking at HP in #698 and #755, which cyan and axel both pick up on in #756 and #761 respectively, both well before your post in #816.
That posts looks like you're trying to distract from the forming wagon by throwing out more targets.
Bolded for emphasis. I did not say I was the first person to mention Hookerpunch ever. I said I was the first person to mention Hookerpunch as you became a popular lynch vote, AND in your post you acknowledged #843 from Cyan and #885 from Wheat_Grinder, respectively, both well after my post in #816.
I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here.
I told you I didn't notice your post until you pointed it out to me, which wasn't until after I acknowledged the two posts in my earlier post.
I'm saying that when you mentioned HP, as my wagon wagon was picking up, it looks like you're creating a distraction, not that you didn't notice HP or anything.
Ahh my mistake, misquoted.
I meant to quote #747 instead, where you voted karn after you had reconsidered your stance, with nothing significant happening in between those two posts.
Again, that's not contradictory. I realized Sir Karn wasn't going to let off me, which just reconfirmed how scummy he was. (Side note: He has since unvoted for me, but I believe that was due to the unrelenting pressure he received, and not because he actually has a different read on me.. especially since he still hasn't answered my question regarding that)
I never said it was contradictory, I wanted to know what happened in such a short timeframe for you to change your stance with no explanation given in your post.
Secondly, "now" is such a scummy word to use when talking about how you feel about someone's alignment. It's very rare that townies will say "I think he's scum for now." Scum are all about posturing and setting themselves up to take things back if they need to. It's a tough habit to break, and I'm sure if someone cataloged all the scumposts and townposts, you'd see that "now" is said a lot more by scum in this manner.
I got super excited and went off to try and do some math before hitting the brick wall that is the search function in curse.
I like this (and Kami's) post.
EWP: Colors aren't working for me. WTF? I guess I'm gonna leave the psot like this, and hopefully curse fixes that soon.
Colors work if you don't screw up the tags. Mess one up, and they all break. Preview function is your friend, even if it's slow and a bit special sometimes...
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There is no way godot can be this self unaware as scum.
@Godot - can you tell me any reasons why you think karn is scum, outside of him going after you?
I'm going to answer this question with a question. Why do you approve of Cyan's suspicion of Karn's attack on me, but you don't approve of mine?
Because cyan is not suspicious of karn's attack on you specifically, he is suspicious of karn in general, and has provided reasons why he thinks so.
As part of his suspicon of karn, any actions karn makes, including attacking you, falls under scrutiny as a potential scum action.
Your actions are completely different to this because the only reason you're attacking karn is because he attacked you, and your entire defence/case on karn is about how you are town and he attacked you, making him scum.
Now that I've answered your question, why do you think karn is scum?
@Godot - Why would it matter what I think about you two when you're convinced that Karn is scum?
It matters what "[you] think about [us] two when [I'm] convinced that Karn is scum" because I don't want to be associated with scum.
But like you said, you and karn have not had a single friendly exchange this game. Would I not be more likely to consider you two a dichotomoy rather than being associated with each other?
I don't think Deathjoey has necessarily shown himself to be town, but I think Prophylaxis is onto something when he says he doesn't like to vote lurkers on Day 1. If we ARE going to lynch a lurker, it should be Hookerpunch. Deathjoey is posting so infrequently that I think there might be something distracting him IRL. Hookerpunch posts more often, but never actually posts solid content. At leat when Deathjoey posts he makes a solid effort. Although, his last post was pretty sketchy. The questions he asked were things nobody else had really been talking about, which is fine, but should warrant a follow-up.
Did you just not look at this post where I literally was the first person to mention Hookerpunch as you became the popular lynch vote, or is it irrelevant because my name isn't Cyan?
I'll admit I didn't see this post until you pointed it out to me.
In my post, I'm looking at HP in #698 and #755, which cyan and axel both pick up on in #756 and #761 respectively, both well before your post in #816.
That posts looks like you're trying to distract from the forming wagon by throwing out more targets.
Those posts aren't contradictory. I don't understand what you're questioning. In 731, I said Karn could be town because what he was doing relating to me was unflattering, and I unvoted him, but I still said all his behavior was fishy. In 741 I said he manipulated what I said.
Ahh my mistake, misquoted.
I meant to quote #747 instead, where you voted karn after you had reconsidered your stance, with nothing significant happening in between those two posts.
What happens in the case that megiddo flips first?
Is there anything in the interactions between the two that would cause you to link them together?
If Megiddo flips scum, it likely reflects poorly back on Cyan for the same reason as the reverse. If he flips town, I'd have to re-evaluate.
I don't really think it's worth scouring interactions between the two of them until we see a flip though.
Do you think that either of them are likely to flip scum? Which of the two do you think are more likely to be scum and why?
The last time you mentioned anything about either of them was in #476, where you had them both as "Possible Town".
What was exactly did you see about their interactions that caused you to think that one of the two is likely to be scum, as opposed to simply town refusing to jump on a bad wagon?
Alternatively, Sir Karn is lynched. It is revealed that he is scum. Him going after me as a scum player is almost proof of my towniness, and that is beneficial to the town however long I am left alive.
Alternative-alternatively, Sir Karm is lynched and revealed as town. I shouldn't have too much trouble getting away from suspicion of me thereafter because he was ramming me so hard.
There is no alternate where I'm lynched and revealed as scum because I'm not scum.
I'm okay with what's going to happen next, whatever it may be, as it will benefit the town with all outcomes. (Of course, some more than others. Like Karn being lynched and revealed as scum. That'd be super cool. Let's do that.) (also my flip being town is beneficial, but not AS beneficial as a lynched scum, so, yeah.)
The first line here shows that godot believes that with a Karn flip, she'll be cleared as town. What gives her such certainty of this flip?
The next line reads like an offhand comment. This strikes me as odd, because if she's so convinced that karn is scum, why did she feel the need to hedge her bets? And with such fantastic reasoning as "If I'm being tunneled, I must be town".
"Getting away from suspicion" is also odd. This is inconsistent with her belief that she is town and karn is scum. Why would there be any suspicion after a mislynch, unless you believe you will be under fire for pushing a bad wagon?
It's almost humorous you think we're working together. The idea of people perceiving that had honestly not crossed my mind.
@Karn, maybe because we're so publicly and consistently against each other? As if it were an act? Maybe you should start being nicer to me. ;P We were in the same boat in the beginning when we both voted Prophylaxis, but I don't think we've had a single friendly exchange, and perhaps he finds that as suspicious as players who ONLY have friendly exchanges. (I.e. wheat to you) just a thought. It's not true of course, but I'm tying to ascertain what he's thinking exactly.
@Godot - Why would it matter what I think about you two when you're convinced that Karn is scum?
I vote for either Karn or Cythare to hammer if it comes to that. I think exactly one of them is scum.
Can you explain why you think that they cannot be scum together?
Their interactions just don't read like scum-on-scum. Also, Cythare continued to push on Karn even when attention shifted elsewhere, which scum don't often do to a buddy. Especially when there isn't another viable lynch candidate at the time.
So you think they're scummy individually, but aren't on the same team. Which of the two do you think is scummier and why?
But based on how his wagon has quite literally been abandoned, I think that this indicates town, as I think that following a bomb claim, scum would be trying their hardest to get out of a forced 1-1 trade by pushing the lynch.
I don't like this at all, the reasoning is terrible. If scum know a player is a bomb, they can avoid the 1-1 trade by just not killing him. This looks like Deathjoey felt the need to come up a reason to proclaim EP as town without just /barning someone.
Okay, valid. They can avoid a 1-1 trade by not killing him. My point was, that the wagon was abandoned like rats off a sinking ship. EP was at L-1 at one point, which was an easy lynch, considering there was discussions on who the hammer should be.
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#689 @Rhodemy - So you think Karn is playing towards his scum game. And you're unsure on godot, but you know karn likes to bus, so if karn is scum, then godot is likely scum. #693 @Rhodemy - If you think karn is scum, don't you think that he would know who is town? #694 @Rhodemy - Isn't going after "low hanging fruit" a scum action? What do you do to people who are doing scummy things? Yes, that's right. You vote them.
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#698 @HP - How could you possibly NOT have any thoughts on godot by now?
Looking back at where you voted wildfire in #481, you voted him for defending your actions? And you're happy leaving your vote there? That's dodgy, especially since you hadn't mentioned anything about wildfire before that point, and anything since.
Your attitude towards being willing to vote for anyone your 3 washy town reads isn't flattering either.
This post warrants a vote. Why is no one looking at HP?
This is the post of a scum that is mad that he can't make what he perceives as a 'good lynch' happen, when in reality he just doesn't realize that it is not a good lynch at all.
It's time for more votes on Karn. It's been time for that for awhile now.
In other news, Rodemy has taken a giant, steaming deuce on the townread I had on him earlier. Like... why say you want to look into godot on D2? This day ain't ending anytime soon and your vote is sitting on Proph, who isn't going to get lynched. Do it now. And why are you making meta arguments for/against players by using a completely different player's meta?
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#808 @DKingdland - ??? Still not as bad as KA's vote.
[#812 + #813] - Okay, okay. I get it. I'll stop lurking. Hang tight until saturday.
#815 However, is another story. I'm curious as to the reasoning behind voting someone you were already voting for, directly after 3 other people vote for them.
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#827 Once more for emphasis. Guys? Anyone? No? Am I just seeing things?
#843 Yes! Thank you cyan. I'm not going crazy right?
My prediction for the next lynch:
I'm mislynched. It is revealed that I'm town, this is almost certainly enough evidence to lynch Sir Karn next. @Karn, is a 1 for 1 really in your favor?
@Godot - why do you say that your death will be enough evidence towards karn as scum to get him lynched?
There is a little bit of fearmongering and redirection here.
Alternatively, Sir Karn is lynched. It is revealed that he is scum. Him going after me as a scum player is almost proof of my towniness, and that is beneficial to the town however long I am left alive.
Alternative-alternatively, Sir Karm is lynched and revealed as town. I shouldn't have too much trouble getting away from suspicion of me thereafter because he was ramming me so hard.
@Godot - Both alternatives here lead to the situation where you are town. What about the case where you are both scum together? Are you saying that because you are attacking each other, you could not possibly be on the same team together?
In what situation would you be cleared by a Karn!Town flip? Would that not lend more credibility to his case that you are scum?
There is no alternate where I'm lynched and revealed as scum because I'm not scum.
I'm okay with what's going to happen next, whatever it may be, as it will benefit the town with all outcomes. (Of course, some more than others. Like Karn being lynched and revealed as scum. That'd be super cool. Let's do that.) (also my flip being town is beneficial, but not AS beneficial as a lynched scum, so, yeah.)
@Godot - can you explain in what way would a town lynch be beneficial for town? Why do you not care about what happens from now? What about if you were lynched and karn was not?
EDIT: #591 Why is wildfire the only one who has commented on this?
Why are people suddenly declaring godot as town? #557#558#569
#604 @Megiddo - I haven't commented because I haven't posted since then.
Oh dear, it's no wonder people want to lynch me for lurking.
I liked that his initial read picked up on Wheat, and picked up some points that no one else had mentioned. I also liked that started analysing his predecessor's posts.
I questioned him about Karn and Wheat, which he has since replied to in #486
Note: can someone tell me if WheatxKarn is a thing? If it's a thing, it shouldn't be a thing.
He continues with his line of questioning Wheat, while showing very little reaction to being put within lynch claim.
The events surrounding his lynch makes me a little wary, as others have stated that he could have just changed the formatting on his PM, which throws a little wifom into things.
But based on how his wagon has quite literally been abandoned, I think that this indicates town, as I think that following a bomb claim, scum would be trying their hardest to get out of a forced 1-1 trade by pushing the lynch.
**** it. Can't see void at all and DJ is the rational choice. Axel made some good points and with what I added it's a good case. unvote, vote Deathjoey
Sorry about the lack of activity, I have been slack.
Hope all goes well to tanarin, and a welcome to EP.
@axel - on your prelim list you had rodemy near the middle, but in your final he is solidly in your top 3 town. What exactly caused your opinion on him to shift so much? Same for wheat.
#95 Rodemy either missed or ignored the explanation given by proph in #60
You're voting for me because I'm new? Um. Okay. I don't have any incriminating knowledge about you or amy town members to share, so I don't see how killing me off would benefit the town.
The bolded is what karn chose to focus on, and in godot's post, it could be taken to mean
1 - a collective reference to all the players in the game
2 - referring to the group of town aligned players
When karn inserted the word "other", he changed the possible interpretations to mean the second one, and also changed the meaning of godot's words to say that she had inside knowledge of him being town and imply that he was part of the "town aligned players" group.
#306 rodemy feels like an opportunistic vote following karn
#307 dkingsland brings up a good point about karn doing a 180 on meg.
#430 @Axel - Yeah, I'm lurking. Yeah, I know I'm lurking. It's bad. Please ask me questions.
#428 @EP - What do you think about the interaction between karn and w_g?
unvote tanarin
I still think tanarin is scum. I want to give EP a chance to change that opinion, and he is doing well so far.
Edit: I was going to unvote here, but EP is at L-2
@ISO you have wildfire down on the votecount for both hiiamtom and godot
Cyan has a vengeance trigger that encourages him to vote early and stick on someone and not change his vote? Are we sure these triggers were assigned randomly?
Now it feels like Void is trying too hard.
@Axel - In what way is void trying too hard? Where does he do this?
Reviewing Cyan's activity, I think he's scum. The only thing he's been interested in is Tanarin. Even if he had the claimed vengeance ability, and even if he is completely convinced Tanarin is scum, I don't see town!Cyan focusing on his own ability to the exclusion of finding any other scum in the game.
unvote
vote Cyan
@Kami - So basically you're voting cyan for tunnel vision on Tanarin, no matter how scummy Tanarin actually looks?
#134 @Cyan - My mistake, Looking back, I seem to have confused you for Cythare's #67
#66 @Cythare - For what reason did you Unvote Tanarin?
Where do you stand on proph? You start off with an attack on proph's play, only to back off and defend it with a meta null read?
I'm back and weighing in on events as they happened:
I feel proph's early self town proclamations are in line with his vote for Kamikaze in #29, which imo looks like a bait for reactions.
#31 Rodemy took the bait
#41 Tanarin votes Rodemy, which looks like low hanging fruit. Interestingly calls proph out on overexplaining his reasoning, which could be taken as coaching.
#44 Proph repeats his "first game in a month" statement from #35
#52 Kami votes for Proph, an OMGUS, but cites a good point about meta-defense
#60 Proph going for the meta-defense, mentioned by Karn in #63
#61 @megiddo - why is proph town?
#82 @HP - Wat?
#96 @cyan - if you want more pressure on tanarin, why unvote then?
#108 @Tanarin - Which meta do you think Proph is playing towards this game and why?
"@Cyan and Dking: Your votes are bad and you should be ashamed of yourselves."
lol no
Sure, I do indeed think Cyan's scepticism is more valid. Is it not natural for the better laid out and explained argument to be more persuasive?
What did I say that isn't true?
As you succinctly stated in the post I quoted earlier, it's pretty much as you say to karn.
What I'm looking at now, however, is how you're now suddenly aware of how others perceive your interactions with karn, and are trying to change that perception.
I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here.
I told you I didn't notice your post until you pointed it out to me, which wasn't until after I acknowledged the two posts in my earlier post.
I'm saying that when you mentioned HP, as my wagon wagon was picking up, it looks like you're creating a distraction, not that you didn't notice HP or anything.
I never said it was contradictory, I wanted to know what happened in such a short timeframe for you to change your stance with no explanation given in your post.
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I got super excited and went off to try and do some math before hitting the brick wall that is the search function in curse.
I like this (and Kami's) post.
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R u a wizard? Fun times ahead =D
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Colors work if you don't screw up the tags. Mess one up, and they all break. Preview function is your friend, even if it's slow and a bit special sometimes...
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There is no way godot can be this self unaware as scum.
Working at an anime convention all weekend (woo!), so maybe vla, but will get a post in within 24 hours of now.
Because cyan is not suspicious of karn's attack on you specifically, he is suspicious of karn in general, and has provided reasons why he thinks so.
As part of his suspicon of karn, any actions karn makes, including attacking you, falls under scrutiny as a potential scum action.
Your actions are completely different to this because the only reason you're attacking karn is because he attacked you, and your entire defence/case on karn is about how you are town and he attacked you, making him scum.
Now that I've answered your question, why do you think karn is scum?
But like you said, you and karn have not had a single friendly exchange this game. Would I not be more likely to consider you two a dichotomoy rather than being associated with each other?
I'll admit I didn't see this post until you pointed it out to me.
In my post, I'm looking at HP in #698 and #755, which cyan and axel both pick up on in #756 and #761 respectively, both well before your post in #816.
That posts looks like you're trying to distract from the forming wagon by throwing out more targets.
Ahh my mistake, misquoted.
I meant to quote #747 instead, where you voted karn after you had reconsidered your stance, with nothing significant happening in between those two posts.
Couldn't find enough gold. You'll have to make do with bits of copper I found in the street.
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Do you think that either of them are likely to flip scum? Which of the two do you think are more likely to be scum and why?
The last time you mentioned anything about either of them was in #476, where you had them both as "Possible Town".
What was exactly did you see about their interactions that caused you to think that one of the two is likely to be scum, as opposed to simply town refusing to jump on a bad wagon?
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I think it's possible from your relentless persistance in pursuing godot's lynch to the exclusion of all else. That's scummy in itself.
What links you to godot is her reactions to you. In #556, you can see that godot believes that with a karn flip, she'll be cleared as town.
The first line here shows that godot believes that with a Karn flip, she'll be cleared as town. What gives her such certainty of this flip?
The next line reads like an offhand comment. This strikes me as odd, because if she's so convinced that karn is scum, why did she feel the need to hedge her bets? And with such fantastic reasoning as "If I'm being tunneled, I must be town".
"Getting away from suspicion" is also odd. This is inconsistent with her belief that she is town and karn is scum. Why would there be any suspicion after a mislynch, unless you believe you will be under fire for pushing a bad wagon?
Hmm... Godot needs to be looked at.
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#680 lol.
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#681 @Godot - can you tell me any reasons why you think karn is scum, outside of him going after you?
@Godot - Why would it matter what I think about you two when you're convinced that Karn is scum?
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So you think they're scummy individually, but aren't on the same team. Which of the two do you think is scummier and why?
Okay, valid. They can avoid a 1-1 trade by not killing him. My point was, that the wagon was abandoned like rats off a sinking ship. EP was at L-1 at one point, which was an easy lynch, considering there was discussions on who the hammer should be.
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#689 @Rhodemy - So you think Karn is playing towards his scum game. And you're unsure on godot, but you know karn likes to bus, so if karn is scum, then godot is likely scum.
#693 @Rhodemy - If you think karn is scum, don't you think that he would know who is town?
#694 @Rhodemy - Isn't going after "low hanging fruit" a scum action? What do you do to people who are doing scummy things? Yes, that's right. You vote them.
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#698 @HP - How could you possibly NOT have any thoughts on godot by now?
Looking back at where you voted wildfire in #481, you voted him for defending your actions? And you're happy leaving your vote there? That's dodgy, especially since you hadn't mentioned anything about wildfire before that point, and anything since.
Your attitude towards being willing to vote for anyone your 3 washy town reads isn't flattering either.
This post warrants a vote. Why is no one looking at HP?
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#711 Lets see if this gets answered later.
#730 10/10 agree with this assessment of godot's responses.
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#731 I can't even.
Yes please.
I'm in.
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#743 What? #731???
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#755 Again, why is no one looking at HP?
#756 Yes, good work cyan.
#761 And you too, axel.
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#770 I like dkingsland.
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#808 @DKingdland - ??? Still not as bad as KA's vote.
[#812 + #813] - Okay, okay. I get it. I'll stop lurking. Hang tight until saturday.
#815 However, is another story. I'm curious as to the reasoning behind voting someone you were already voting for, directly after 3 other people vote for them.
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#827 Once more for emphasis. Guys? Anyone? No? Am I just seeing things?
#843 Yes! Thank you cyan. I'm not going crazy right?
#885 You too, wheat. You're a good guy.
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Now that I'm back on track, I am willing to vote for, in order - HP, Karn/Godot, Kamikaze, Rhodemy.
Vote HookerPunch
Can you explain why you think that they cannot be scum together?
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What happens in the case that megiddo flips first?
Is there anything in the interactions between the two that would cause you to link them together?
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#494 Does this make tom mod confirmed town?
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#533++ Godot implosion?
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#556 Does anyone else find this post a bit odd and hard to follow?
@Godot - why do you say that your death will be enough evidence towards karn as scum to get him lynched?
There is a little bit of fearmongering and redirection here.
@Godot - Both alternatives here lead to the situation where you are town. What about the case where you are both scum together? Are you saying that because you are attacking each other, you could not possibly be on the same team together?
In what situation would you be cleared by a Karn!Town flip? Would that not lend more credibility to his case that you are scum?
@Godot - can you explain in what way would a town lynch be beneficial for town? Why do you not care about what happens from now? What about if you were lynched and karn was not?
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#591 Why is wildfire the only one who has commented on this?
Why are people suddenly declaring godot as town? #557 #558 #569
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#594 @Karn - Hey, are you scum with godot?
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#604 @Megiddo - I haven't commented because I haven't posted since then.
Oh dear, it's no wonder people want to lynch me for lurking.
I liked that his initial read picked up on Wheat, and picked up some points that no one else had mentioned. I also liked that started analysing his predecessor's posts.
I questioned him about Karn and Wheat, which he has since replied to in #486
Note: can someone tell me if WheatxKarn is a thing? If it's a thing, it shouldn't be a thing.
He continues with his line of questioning Wheat, while showing very little reaction to being put within lynch claim.
The events surrounding his lynch makes me a little wary, as others have stated that he could have just changed the formatting on his PM, which throws a little wifom into things.
But based on how his wagon has quite literally been abandoned, I think that this indicates town, as I think that following a bomb claim, scum would be trying their hardest to get out of a forced 1-1 trade by pushing the lynch.
Can I haz [REALITY DISTORTION FIELD] too?
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Woo! [REALITY DISTORTION FIELD] <Activate!>
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#673 @rhodemy - Hi, what do you think of Karn, what do you think of Godot, and what do you think of Karn and Godot?
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Unvote Hiiamtom re. Tanarin
I can be convinced to vote for karn, godot, and maybe megiddo.
It is 4:31am. Goodnight.
Hope all goes well to tanarin, and a welcome to EP.
@axel - on your prelim list you had rodemy near the middle, but in your final he is solidly in your top 3 town. What exactly caused your opinion on him to shift so much? Same for wheat.
#95 Rodemy either missed or ignored the explanation given by proph in #60
The original quote from godot is
The bolded is what karn chose to focus on, and in godot's post, it could be taken to mean
1 - a collective reference to all the players in the game
2 - referring to the group of town aligned players
When karn inserted the word "other", he changed the possible interpretations to mean the second one, and also changed the meaning of godot's words to say that she had inside knowledge of him being town and imply that he was part of the "town aligned players" group.
#306 rodemy feels like an opportunistic vote following karn
#307 dkingsland brings up a good point about karn doing a 180 on meg.
#430 @Axel - Yeah, I'm lurking. Yeah, I know I'm lurking. It's bad. Please ask me questions.
#428 @EP - What do you think about the interaction between karn and w_g?
unvote tanarinI still think tanarin is scum. I want to give EP a chance to change that opinion, and he is doing well so far.
Edit: I was going to unvote here, but EP is at L-2
@ISO you have wildfire down on the votecount for both hiiamtom and godot
@Axel - In what way is void trying too hard? Where does he do this?
@Kami - So basically you're voting cyan for tunnel vision on Tanarin, no matter how scummy Tanarin actually looks?
@Kami - Gotcha. Bit early to be setting up for a 50/50 don't you think?
In other news, curse will screw up your quotes even if you directly copy them to notepad.
Solution - Don't use word wrap when pasting to notepad
@Kami - Who are you referring to when you say this.
nvm, reading is tech.
#134 @Cyan - My mistake, Looking back, I seem to have confused you for Cythare's #67
#66 @Cythare - For what reason did you Unvote Tanarin?
Where do you stand on proph? You start off with an attack on proph's play, only to back off and defend it with a meta null read?
I feel proph's early self town proclamations are in line with his vote for Kamikaze in #29, which imo looks like a bait for reactions.
#31 Rodemy took the bait
#41 Tanarin votes Rodemy, which looks like low hanging fruit. Interestingly calls proph out on overexplaining his reasoning, which could be taken as coaching.
#44 Proph repeats his "first game in a month" statement from #35
#52 Kami votes for Proph, an OMGUS, but cites a good point about meta-defense
#60 Proph going for the meta-defense, mentioned by Karn in #63
#61 @megiddo - why is proph town?
#82 @HP - Wat?
#96 @cyan - if you want more pressure on tanarin, why unvote then?
#108 @Tanarin - Which meta do you think Proph is playing towards this game and why?
"@Cyan and Dking: Your votes are bad and you should be ashamed of yourselves."
lol no
Vote Tanarin
OOC: How do I nested quotes/multiquote in curse?
Going to be VLA for the next 24 hours or so, got an exam tomorrow morning =D