And Gideon is really meta specific
I have this jomebrew filled meta that loves midrange beaters that just beat gideons face
but his purpose is served lol
ultimately I run a one of always and more depends on what i see pre tournament (I usually play only fnm's)
I think we need a more card advantageous build
3 jtms for te angel and gargantuan allow youto dig really deep
3 venser works
keep the portal
the clasps aren't greatly needed, I dropped it to 2 and added 4 leaks for the rebuttals Nd clasps
1 engine is a great tech for venser as removal and poison addition. Te invisimancer are useful with venser but you might as well be using his -1 if you have him out
making distortion strike more useful with rebound
a tempered steel (which i find super common turn 3) plus distortion strike on anyrhig puts them at at least 8 poison counters.
All you need to do is get one swing through and you win
it is also easy to recover from a sweep using
curs and venser allowing yourself to regain board position
all I know is I will be tweaking
this to wreck at fnm
What a narrow way to look at things. evaluating a card in a vacuum without looking at the other cards that could possibly be included in the deck. You don't do much in the way of deck design do you? You havn't put any thought into my post at all, you basically looked at the card decided it isn't good for any of the current standard decks and dismissed it as bad. FYI rotation means new decks new and unknown Meta. Dismissing cards as bad without testing them or even knowing what the meta is going to look like seems poor to me
You obviously wouldn't be running Throne of Geth JUST to add counters to lux cannon, you would have other cards in the deck that benefit from proliferate, and a stable of cards that create sack outlets, golem foundry pulls double duty here and is easily the card i am most impressed with in the set beyond the obvious money cards. Cards like Myrsmith, Myr battlesphere create sack outlets for the throne to munch on while eliminating your concern over card disadvantage cards like Ratchet bomb and lux cannon while slow and clunky outside of proliferate can keep threats off the board.
obviously this deck was created in a couple minutes specifically for this post and would need quite a bit of work, but the framework is there for something. I think i am going to build it and do some tweaking and playtesting playtesting and revisit this thread with my results.
For the record there are plenty of cards out there that generate card disadvantage that are powerful cards in the correct build. Bazaar of bagdhad comes to mind (keep in mind i am in no way comparing the power level of any of the cards here with bazaar, just pointing out that card disadvantage =/= unplayable 100% of the time)
Lux Cannon is not going to be some sort of auto include in every deck and i don't even see it as a viable replacement for o-ring but it will DEFINATELY have a home in any deck designed to abuse proliferate. Throne of geth is the the cheapest reliable proliferate outlet, but it will only see play if there is a proliferate deck that is artifact heavy, if there is one throne WILL be in it
I honestly think at least splahojg blue for venser + possibly Jace is way worth it with engines and clasps is way worth it, don't underestimate the removal ability of -1/-1's every turn
and once you get the ultimate you'll be removing everything
Am I the only one thinking either clone shell or the rare.. Could be bomb. But I'm not too sure about anything about som besides that there Is a box I should be getting
in October lol
Alright
thanks
it was just an idea that shot into my head after seeing someone oring
his own avenger and bust it with a war preist and recur with sun Titan
a homebrew deck that was really fun but more casual
Has anyone thought about this
abuse Avenger of zendikar with venser, and abuse elspeth's life gain and board wipes.
I'm thinking throwing jtms in and 2 Gideon. The Gideons allow usbto last longer
thinking either run as a poly build with only avengers
and sb Iona or aomething of the sort.
Abuse avenger with venser
generate tokens every turn or double landfall
I'm not too sure but it looks like it could do good at like an fnm possibly more.
Thanks
I have this jomebrew filled meta that loves midrange beaters that just beat gideons face
but his purpose is served lol
ultimately I run a one of always and more depends on what i see pre tournament (I usually play only fnm's)
3 jtms for te angel and gargantuan allow youto dig really deep
3 venser works
keep the portal
the clasps aren't greatly needed, I dropped it to 2 and added 4 leaks for the rebuttals Nd clasps
1 engine is a great tech for venser as removal and poison addition. Te invisimancer are useful with venser but you might as well be using his -1 if you have him out
making distortion strike more useful with rebound
a tempered steel (which i find super common turn 3) plus distortion strike on anyrhig puts them at at least 8 poison counters.
All you need to do is get one swing through and you win
it is also easy to recover from a sweep using
curs and venser allowing yourself to regain board position
all I know is I will be tweaking
this to wreck at fnm
I honestly think at least splahojg blue for venser + possibly Jace is way worth it with engines and clasps is way worth it, don't underestimate the removal ability of -1/-1's every turn
and once you get the ultimate you'll be removing everything
in October lol
specially cause it's not itended to be teir one or
anything
even ifmyou have to pay 2 it's still ridiculous
tap 2 of oppenents permanents per turn
jtms
lol one worldwake pack and bam
I was like cook w.e
and didn't think much til I checked onlie! Haha
thanks
it was just an idea that shot into my head after seeing someone oring
his own avenger and bust it with a war preist and recur with sun Titan
a homebrew deck that was really fun but more casual
abuse Avenger of zendikar with venser, and abuse elspeth's life gain and board wipes.
I'm thinking throwing jtms in and 2 Gideon. The Gideons allow usbto last longer
thinking either run as a poly build with only avengers
and sb Iona or aomething of the sort.
Abuse avenger with venser
generate tokens every turn or double landfall
I'm not too sure but it looks like it could do good at like an fnm possibly more.
Thanks
u can block with it after you attack andget it's effects twice a turn
I live in a super humid area so I'm not too thrilled about that
anyways. Wish I could get 4
Eh I lasted one day
first game ever haha