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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from Cantripmancer »
    This may be moot with what I detail above on Tom, but why are you omitting the possibility that Wisp is scum confident that Tom is town because he knows Tom is town?


    I didn't think it was a likely world; Wisp is townier than tom.

    Quote from Cantripmancer »
    Vote Tom


    Hmm...

    Vote Tom
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from tomsloger »
    It certainly can be a lie. Maybe just # of shots and targets, maybe more.

    He probably is ascetic one way or another. Which fits a scumteam dealing with multiple vigs/etc


    Ascetics only block non-killing actions.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from tomsloger »
    God kj/osi team must have been laughing at me so hard d2 ****


    1. I replaced in after your fake persona's shot.
    2. I'm going with your fake persona laughing with KJ and Grape about getting away with killing a townie.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    Quote from Killjoy »
    I'm Bant Spirits. Are cards ok to claim? I forget.

    Anyway, I'm Ascetic, and I have the once per game ability to make someone else Ascetic. I haven't used it. Haven't found a good target yet. I'm not sure they're is a de facto good target for it actually. Hitting town prevents doctor shots and hitting scum prevents investigative.

    I was going to use it on Grape to let him do that coroner thing but then we lynched him . I figured the benefit to town was decent and Grape probably wasn't gonna be a doc target.


    Sounds very similar to megs role. Would it make more sense for them to be mirrored town-scum roles or simply two town who can together make an ascetic bulletproof?


    Asceticiser has more scum utility than town utility, mostly for partial strongmanning.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    [quote from="Killjoy »" url="/forums/community-forums/mafia/812915-modern-mafia-day-3-thought-hemorrhage?comment=2724"]Tom you could have shot several people with more scum equity than dk. I do believe that's the point. [/quote

    Maybe his fake persona felt like hitting town.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Either KJ's claim is fake, the Redirector doesn't exist, and/or in the extremely unlikely case that it does exist, it's probably town or one of Azrael's abilities.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Asceticiser + Delayer + Redirector...

    No way that's all scum.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from tomsloger »
    I also could have shot grape btw


    I'm betting that this is likely a lie.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from osieorb18 »
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    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    @osie
    ya I forgot this site likes to buss rather than try to defend their partners
    Im still having a hard time understanding you putting Axel as an "ehh, possible town" read
    I cant see how you dont have Cantrip as like one of your highest town reads, it still feels like fake paranoia


    I put the mechanical likeliness of one of tom and Cantrip being scum a little higher than most. I also firmly believe that Cantrip is skilled enough as a wolf to be scum here.

    Axel I'm mostly just tinfoiling. I'm townreading him more than most (if not all) of my probably town on behavior, but there's some potential for Axel worlds.
    oh now i get it

    Tryna chain lynch me and cantrip


    Nope. Because Cantrip has much lower scum equity than you do.
    and when i flip town?

    Cmon you know what chain lynching means dont play dumb


    Barring new discoveries, I have no interest in a Cantrip lynch until after you, KJ, Chris, and possibly some others.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from tomsloger »
    Quote from osieorb18 »
    (There's also probably some small part of me that kinda feels like tom's intentionally neutral (and often intentionally abrasive) playstyle never deserves to not get lynched if there's even a small sign that he's actually scummy, because there should be consequences for regularly trying not to appear town.)
    ftr, this is a really poor understanding of how and why i play

    Im not "intentionally neutral"
    Its just all performance art so its fake regardless


    This is not a step up.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from Killjoy »
    Osie: Why do you think I'm scum? You don't actually seem to. Explain plz.


    I think you have had bad relations to both Az and Grape. Your posts have been superficial, as I talked about earlier, and when called out, instead of rallying up, you haven't provided anything else. The surface-level focus of your selective larger content posts on top of a much larger number of easy questions and lack of reasoning worked out is not a good look. When you combine it all, you're particularly scummy.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from shadowlancerx »
    @Osie: when was the last time you went this hard in on a scum read?
    Also, regardless of that read, saying Tom is “outed scum” is ridiculous. Yeah, sure, maybe he lied about his role, but that’s not absolutely true, stop acting like it is.


    I haven't tunneled like this in quite a while (to be fair, I haven't played much mafia in quite a while), but I am pretty firmly convinced on this front. There's a number of decent elements going against tom, and nothing particularly going for him that I've seen.

    (There's also probably some small part of me that kinda feels like tom's intentionally neutral (and often intentionally abrasive) playstyle never deserves to not get lynched if there's even a small sign that he's actually scummy, because there should be consequences for regularly trying not to appear town.)
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Unvote

    Vote Killjoy

    If nothing comes from this lynch or from night actions, I'm probably just dropping a vote the next day and then my effort will likely dissipate.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from vezokpiraka »
    Osie hear me out. How about you help us lynch KJ today and people will use actions at night to check on tom? Does that sound good for you? This whole page of you rambling about how tom is scum is not convincing anyone.


    Shrugs I'm expecting nothing to come of it after this phase; KJ gets lynched and then we flounder around until someone decides to lynch me or Chris instead of tom, probably twice, meanwhile there's 3 nightkills in the large town pool. That puts us down to either 3/2 LyLO or 4/1, in the latter case tom just needs to evade two lynches as a deepwolf. He should be lynched long before final 5, but in particular if the active players get steadily killed off while y'all refuse to lynch him for no reason...

    I'm unconvinced that we get anything out of the night phase in regards to tom unless Killjoy is town, in which case we should be lynching tom instead anyways.
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  • posted a message on Modern Mafia - Game Over: Terminus [Town Victory]
    Quote from Lastwhisper »
    Ohh god plz stop
    I am getting confused now



    Just now?
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