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Quote from Silvercrys3467 »It's easier to do on MU since they have a modbot that the game host can use to lock the thread. I think game hosts have some mod powers over threads they create, too. We could make it the standard here but we'd have to have hosts contact a subforum mod or Shadow to get their threads locked (unless new owners are willing to give lock powers to thread creators, at least in this subforum). Probably isn't really the place for it but since Shadow got promoted and the old staff left, I don't think we even have a proper subforum mod anymore, heh.
Quote from Axelrod »Tom has some kind of Teflon coating he needs to get a patent on stat.
Quote from Sir Chris »I am attacking this from a couple of different angles and if we assume Tom is not stupid, and I don't think he is, it just doesn't make sense for him to be scum here. Like if he is scum then... scum was just so sucky.
Quote from vezokpiraka »I was right about Azrael and I'm right about grape and KJ yet you prefer dumb lynches.
Quote from vezokpiraka »Anybody who is voting tom hasn't paid attention to this game at all.
Quote from vezokpiraka »I've already read today and my super solid town read on tom has not budged. Someone redirecting cantrip to town makes so much more sense then tom faking his flavour for *****s and giggles. Although now that I see KJ's wagon analysis I kinda doubt you can actually be scun. How about we work together and find the scum instead of going after tom?
Quote from KittyCupCake »Quote from osieorb18 »Even a 1-shot secret redirector bothers me. Like, a host doesn't say "You have guessed wrong" with a redirect unless it's questionable hosting. This isn't an issue that bothers me, if I was running a game with a redirect, I'd be unlikely to tell them that in most situations, and I definitely wouldn't answer questions about that to anyone but the redirector. And I'd guess this is something proph agrees with me on. I don't think this speculation is of any value.
Quote from osieorb18 »Even a 1-shot secret redirector bothers me. Like, a host doesn't say "You have guessed wrong" with a redirect unless it's questionable hosting.
Quote from shadowlancerx »For real guys? Suggesting that it would be b*stard modding to have a redirect that isn’t explicit is stupid; could be a busdrive or virtually anything impacting here, and by role and behavior Tom is not really in the more likely to be scum category.
Quote from Sir Chris »I remain comfortable with my vote and have no intention of voting Tom today.
Quote from vezokpiraka »Osie hear me out. How about you help us lynch KJ today and people will use actions at night to check on tom? Does that sound good for you? This whole page of you rambling about how tom is scum is not convincing anyone.
Quote from shadowlancerx »@Osie: when was the last time you went this hard in on a scum read? Also, regardless of that read, saying Tom is “outed scum” is ridiculous. Yeah, sure, maybe he lied about his role, but that’s not absolutely true, stop acting like it is.
Quote from vezokpiraka »Tom is town and KJ is scum. If we lynch tom I get the hammer so I can use an ability, but I have no idea why you want to lynch town.
Quote from shadowlancerx »This Tom wagon seemed to drain the energy from the thread, and I’m not sure why. Two scum left, if Tom is scum, only one buddy able to try and direct a counterwagon or energy elsewhere, meaning if the town is content then that’s could explain it. If Tom is town, scum could either be vocal about the lynch, or trying not to draw attention to themselves so as to make this day turn sour for them. In either scenario, there’s not a lot of town conversing happening, which is annoying. I still don’t think it’s Tom, and I think the most compelling stuff against him is the interactions that Axel posted. Behaviorally, I’ve liked him, I think his process for the daykill makes a lot of sense from town Tom; it would have been a very good fake job on the part of scum Tom. I think there are some decent reasons to look at a few people for possible deepwolf status, but not today; I think today we need to cut the PoE down some more. As such, I will only be voting for Osie/last or KJ if not one of those. I have yet to see compelling “not in the PoE” arguments for any of those three, despite there being some points in their favor.
Quote from vezokpiraka »He can't cause he is lying. This is just bullhit to fill the posts. Tom's post sums it up perfectly. The only real push KJ has ever even tried this game is on me. He has played a textbook scummy game with bad interactions with all dead scum and nonsensical stances. People voting tom: Tom's game make sense as town. Everything he did, while questionable, can come from town tom. What KJ did has no chance of coming from town KJ.
Quote from Vaimes »I am definitely interested in solving shadow’s/KCC’s questionable vote positions.
Quote from shadowlancerx »No, threatening to self Vote didn’t generate reactions, it got you lynched. :disgust: The next time you want to waste your time, don’t make us collateral damage.
Quote from Sir Chris »How does self voting help your win condition, Osie?
Quote from vezokpiraka »Quote from osieorb18 »If people want me lynched, I'm fine with voting myself right now since it seems like there's not likely any discussion actually happening about Killjoy, tom, Chris or others, just "Oh, they could be scum." My thought change on tom has very little to do with level of work or analysis, and a lot to do with perspective focus. Wolf!tom doesn't analyze people more than anyone else in the thread. Killjoy's been OMGUSy in his questions on top of his superficiality. This post probably doesn't mean anything to anyone, but take a close look at Axel, KCC, and Shadow, since I highly doubt that town fragments off like that. Last's vote also isn't great, but Last is just Zero-Escape-level Last this game anyways, so whatever. I'll give it an hour and then vote myself if votes haven't moved off of me. vote osie I'd otherwise miss the one hour deadline and I want my ability goddamn it.
Quote from osieorb18 »If people want me lynched, I'm fine with voting myself right now since it seems like there's not likely any discussion actually happening about Killjoy, tom, Chris or others, just "Oh, they could be scum." My thought change on tom has very little to do with level of work or analysis, and a lot to do with perspective focus. Wolf!tom doesn't analyze people more than anyone else in the thread. Killjoy's been OMGUSy in his questions on top of his superficiality. This post probably doesn't mean anything to anyone, but take a close look at Axel, KCC, and Shadow, since I highly doubt that town fragments off like that. Last's vote also isn't great, but Last is just Zero-Escape-level Last this game anyways, so whatever. I'll give it an hour and then vote myself if votes haven't moved off of me.
Quote from Sir Chris »I sincerely don't know what loony toons world you live in if grape/kj is scum I am suddenly scum with them.
Quote from Vaimes »We honestly just might have to kill KJ here regardless of his alignment. We are going to lose if he’s town and makes it to endgame. He can’t be cop checked, and depending on Cantrip’s role/specifications, he might not even be viggable.
Quote from osieorb18 »Quote from vezokpiraka »Town usually isn't afraid of having their voting patterns checked later so they are more free to move their vote, but you"ve been extremely cautious about it and I don't like it. Especially from a player who snap voted in 3p LyLo. What game are you referring to with this?
Quote from vezokpiraka »Town usually isn't afraid of having their voting patterns checked later so they are more free to move their vote, but you"ve been extremely cautious about it and I don't like it. Especially from a player who snap voted in 3p LyLo.
Quote from Killjoy »Wait, how am I scum, and Tom town? You literally said that 2248 was the tipping point, but you apperently didn't read it because I answered this in it? What even is going on here?
Quote from CaptainTempest »How do we feel about Merchant of the Vale? I feel it compares pretty well to Rummaging Goblin.
Quote from DementedKirby »Interesting... I will probably just maintain my primers here just because they have some history and have been here for a while. There's lots of discussions and I believe that they'll still be useful if I'm still able to edit and maintain them. That being said, the staff here at MTGSalvation have made the experience and forums an amazing place and their dedication deserves way more merit and credit than can be given. I hope that, once MTGNexus is up and running, an announcement can be made and thus be able to create an account there (and hopefully no one takes my username ). It won't be easy juggling between being active in two different sites, but I will probably only be attentive here to my primers. If the exodus towards MTGNexus is a certain thing, then I will join that immigration.