Seems to me that Sen Triplets might be your best bet because it gives you all the colors you want for the courtroom cards and has a kind of 'use your own evidence against you' feel to it, I would just get it altered to look like Phoenix Wright.
I'd argue all three Feys (Mia, Maya, and Pearl) would be more appropriate.
I'd also argue that Teysa 2.0 is a solid analogue for Mia Fey in more ways than one, even if she's horribly overcosted. Consider her as one of the 99 if you're going to run Esper.
The case for Sen Triplets is pretty great. Blue is absolutely a must, so Teysa 2.0 will be in the deck, certainly not the general.
Also Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker as Angel Starr makes me smile.
Thanks so much for all the input. If anyone else has any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
I'd like as much as possible to be thematic to the Ace Attorney Franchise. The problem is I can't find a good starting point. Could anyone suggest a good general to represent Phoenix Wright or Apollo Justice? Preferably their abilities would not make sense for a lawyer, but would also keep their personalities in mind: very trusting, and playing honestly (they wouldn't sacrifice anything, because it doesn't make sense for them to sacrifice others to win.)
For a longer explanation for the first part, your opponent doesn't just end their turn after main phase. It is accepted to just have your main phase and say go if you don't want to attack, but as far as the game is concerned, he went to combat, didn't attack, went to second main and then the end phase. That's a little long winded, so it was summed up by your opponent saying "go."
Whenever a phase ends, priority is passed and so you can respond with spells and abilities. You can also respond TO spells and abilities with spells and abilities, meaning that you not only have plenty of times during the turn your opponent plays Obzedat to target him with removal, but you can even wait for the turn to end and have Obzedat's trigger on the stack before you target him. Your spell will resolve, killing the ghost and then his exile trigger will resolve exiling nothing.
I had an Azusa deck which ran 55 ish lands. It worked spectacularly, but mostly because if you enable t1 or t2 Azusa, you win with only 1 bomb in hand. You simply kill them with that bomb before they have a chance to play. One of the ways to make a deck with that many lands work is recycle. It counts lands.
Also, maximize the ways you can get Primeval Titan into play. Having him fetch any land which taps for more than 1 mana (read: Gaea's Cradle) + Eye of Ugin usually will win through inevitability, even if they are stable. Enjoy.
Momir is simply better. It's a combo deck which always has 1 of it's pieces and even without aluren, having him in play can be likened to play a bunch of demonic tutors as creatures.
We are less than 1000 signatures away from handing this thing off. There are many people nowadays who don't think a petition can solve anything, but it doesn't hurt anybody to sign it. To those who have already signed, thank you.
Because you are going to rely on a 4/60 card to be in your hand when they DOJ you...
A contradiction, it works the other way, you know. You claim that we won't have the answer to a DoJ because it's a 4/60 chance, but how many DoJ do they have? They have the same odds of having a DoJ on turn 4 as you have of having the answer, so it's a wash.
Understand the format is slow enough that Elspeth often times can trigger 4 or 5 times before you can win a game, you wont always draw into Mirran or Destiny
First, if the format is as slow as you claim, then Gideon is also a viable choice, and in the situation showcased by you, yourself, Gideon is just flat-out better. Instead of having access to 3 power worth of creatures, we would have access to 6 power. Consider that when you make 3 creatures with Elspeth, there is a chance that your opponent will be able to dispose of them before you untap. Doing the same to a Gideon is much more difficult. Also, there is a repeat of circumstances in saying that we won't always have "x" card, but by playing another card, it's more likely that we'll have that card? Any strong win condition work towards recovering from a DoJ, so playing Elspeth doesn't miraculously solve the problem.
also it is important to have cards that produce more VALUE since we cant draw for CARD ADVANTAGE, Elspeth will always give much more value than 2 elite vanguards, which I removed for her.
Agreed on the Elite Vanuards. Elspeth is not the appropriate replacement for that slot. The whole curve has to compensate for addition of a point to be plotted on the graph. We don't have draw power, but we do have Moorland Haunt, Doomed Traveler, the recursion of Angelic Destiny, Hero of Bladehold, and Blade Splicer that generate a lot of virtual card advantage, producing value with giving us actually cards.
While still building my deck, I've got a pretty good idea of my base skeleton, and from reading all of the humans pages, I'm going to go with 3 AD and 1 of each SoFaF and SoWaP. I'm going with the destiny being overall better because of the buff and cost; also once your creature dies, sword is gone, but (unless the creature is exiled or they kill the destiny) AD just goes back to your hand. So 3 AD and 2 Swords. Seems solid. And in defense of the sword, SoWaP on crusader is 4 color protection, and blue creatures aren't being run very much...good times...
You don't lose the sword when the equiped creature dies, it stays in play waiting to be equiped to the next creature.
The case for Sen Triplets is pretty great. Blue is absolutely a must, so Teysa 2.0 will be in the deck, certainly not the general.
Also Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker as Angel Starr makes me smile.
Thanks so much for all the input. If anyone else has any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
I'd like as much as possible to be thematic to the Ace Attorney Franchise. The problem is I can't find a good starting point. Could anyone suggest a good general to represent Phoenix Wright or Apollo Justice? Preferably their abilities would not make sense for a lawyer, but would also keep their personalities in mind: very trusting, and playing honestly (they wouldn't sacrifice anything, because it doesn't make sense for them to sacrifice others to win.)
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
My first thoughts are
-Ertai, Wizard Adept
-Grand Arbiter
-Isperia, Supreme Judge
I'm iffy on Isperia as neither protagonist is a Judge, and as for Ertai, I'm worried that being mono-colored would stifle design space too much.
Once again, thank you to all who help.
Whenever a phase ends, priority is passed and so you can respond with spells and abilities. You can also respond TO spells and abilities with spells and abilities, meaning that you not only have plenty of times during the turn your opponent plays Obzedat to target him with removal, but you can even wait for the turn to end and have Obzedat's trigger on the stack before you target him. Your spell will resolve, killing the ghost and then his exile trigger will resolve exiling nothing.
Good one. Any others?
Also, maximize the ways you can get Primeval Titan into play. Having him fetch any land which taps for more than 1 mana (read: Gaea's Cradle) + Eye of Ugin usually will win through inevitability, even if they are stable. Enjoy.
We are less than 1000 signatures away from handing this thing off. There are many people nowadays who don't think a petition can solve anything, but it doesn't hurt anybody to sign it. To those who have already signed, thank you.
A contradiction, it works the other way, you know. You claim that we won't have the answer to a DoJ because it's a 4/60 chance, but how many DoJ do they have? They have the same odds of having a DoJ on turn 4 as you have of having the answer, so it's a wash.
First, if the format is as slow as you claim, then Gideon is also a viable choice, and in the situation showcased by you, yourself, Gideon is just flat-out better. Instead of having access to 3 power worth of creatures, we would have access to 6 power. Consider that when you make 3 creatures with Elspeth, there is a chance that your opponent will be able to dispose of them before you untap. Doing the same to a Gideon is much more difficult. Also, there is a repeat of circumstances in saying that we won't always have "x" card, but by playing another card, it's more likely that we'll have that card? Any strong win condition work towards recovering from a DoJ, so playing Elspeth doesn't miraculously solve the problem.
Agreed on the Elite Vanuards. Elspeth is not the appropriate replacement for that slot. The whole curve has to compensate for addition of a point to be plotted on the graph. We don't have draw power, but we do have Moorland Haunt, Doomed Traveler, the recursion of Angelic Destiny, Hero of Bladehold, and Blade Splicer that generate a lot of virtual card advantage, producing value with giving us actually cards.
You don't lose the sword when the equiped creature dies, it stays in play waiting to be equiped to the next creature.