Just run a couple terminus. Beats spirits, kills dredge, and is decent in any matchup where you need to wrath. Can't be spell qullered either. I'm playing 2
Hey guys, old Faeries, Caw Blade, U/w Control, U/b Control 2010 era player here who switched to Esper Draw go in modern. Looking to get back in to standard but only really looking to play blue based control if possible.
Saw a u/r eldrazi deck with void shatter and kozilek's return plus walker's that wafo-tapa had played, but looks like Ugin isn't legal anymore. Where do I start? and what's actually competitive?
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Would you consider playing tarpits in some number (instead of or in addition to colonnades) to have more proactive potential?
I guess I'm curious because playing multiple snaps/cliques/secure seems reasonable, but wafo has been playing fewer colonnades, which seems counterintuitive on some level.
If I was going to do that I would just play faeries. In fact I'm half inclined to do so already, most faeries lists I see floating around are horrible and the pilots are even more questionable. The only reason I haven't really got behind faeries personally is I've gotten so used to havign5-6 cards in hand, I feel like I'm doing something wrong when I play different decks
"Fine". There were a few times I would have liked serum visions to dig me out of some mana screw, but in that scenario clique can just target you. It's invaluable in the combo ish controlly matchups like nahiri and Scapeshift, and I even kept it in bs affinity bc flying blockers are good.
Not making any changes. Loved the list exactly like I ran it, cliques were good, blessed alliance was amazing every time I drew it, halos were good, souls shines against both nahiri and affinity.
Split with Jund shift player in the finals just now. He completely destroyed me in the first two games and I came back in games 3 and 4 pretty convincingly. Buylisting the first and second place prize support (mox sapphire and some ancestral visions) then splitting the check.
Never played game 5 of the finals, but did grab Chinese food with my opponent and talked about our day. So far... not changing a single card. Tron seems miserable though..
Semis was 2-1 vs jeskai nahiri, 2-0 vs affinity, and 2-2-1 vs Jund shift.
Is that 2-1 in matches or 3-0 with a 2-1 victory over burn?
3-0 with 2-1 victory over burn. I only dropped game one vs burn.
Also now I'm 4-0, just finished up 2-0 against some form of eldrazi deck. I think it was sultai but he never casted anything blue?? Other than that it was traditional temples and endless ones with TK SEER and inquisitions and matter reshaper and all the usual suspects.
2-0 so far vs...... red white "play torpor orb or hushwing gryff and then play eater of days, dust elemental, or vexing devil and torpor orb suppresses their drawback etb effects" , and then 2-0 red 2 vs.... green white humans...
Go go supreme verdict? Haven't even gotten to cast my pet vendilion cliques :/
Secure the wastes is convenient tho! On to rd 3, with the way these matches are going it'll probably Be mono blue crab tribal or something lol
Edit: 2-1 vS BURN
3 blessed alliance + 2 dispel plus 3 snaps....
Thanks! Already up, had a good breakfast, playtested at Denny's, and got fresh black dragonshields on. Today's gonna be a good day. Win a mox starts at 12:30. Today (I'm pretty sure) should be 6 rounds of Swiss, and a mox sapphire. The payout for top 8 is decent too as far as prize support goes.
There's at least 2 jeskai nahiri guys in the room bc they're riding with me.
My list is the same as what I posted last night with the main deck cliques. Sideboard 3 blessed alliance + 3 halo feels nice. Post board adding in thoughtseiZe, halo, and dispel gives us critical mass against combo. Engineered exp / souls / halo / alliance gives us critical match against infect / zoo / affinity. Vs Jund souls and engineered exp will get there, could consider halo for anti Lili ultimate, which is really the only way I ever lose that match.
Vs tron hope they draw a non God hand, see if vendilion clique gets there with thoughtseize. Consider slashing their tires after the match.
Here's what I'm on for the big win a mox tomorrow, tested a bunch today and I'm really happy with it. I'm sitting at 16-1 in testing with this 75 (minus the occasional sideboard adjustment, nothing major) since yesterday post fnm testing. Testing field was affinity, infect, grixis delver, abzan coco, jund, living end, zooicide, and jeskai nahiri.
And I thought wurmcoil was good sideboard tech for jund before. Imagine how good wurmcoil is if they're playing moon lol
AMA
PS: cut to 3 cryptics to make room. Sue me.
Saw a u/r eldrazi deck with void shatter and kozilek's return plus walker's that wafo-tapa had played, but looks like Ugin isn't legal anymore. Where do I start? and what's actually competitive?
Please reply to this so I get the notification. Thanks in advance!
Take the 20 minutes or so and watch that. It's MrCafouilette (wafo-tapa) beating the hell out of Ari Lax's Zooicide deck 2-1 in a league today.
If I was going to do that I would just play faeries. In fact I'm half inclined to do so already, most faeries lists I see floating around are horrible and the pilots are even more questionable. The only reason I haven't really got behind faeries personally is I've gotten so used to havign5-6 cards in hand, I feel like I'm doing something wrong when I play different decks
"Fine". There were a few times I would have liked serum visions to dig me out of some mana screw, but in that scenario clique can just target you. It's invaluable in the combo ish controlly matchups like nahiri and Scapeshift, and I even kept it in bs affinity bc flying blockers are good.
Not making any changes. Loved the list exactly like I ran it, cliques were good, blessed alliance was amazing every time I drew it, halos were good, souls shines against both nahiri and affinity.
Split with Jund shift player in the finals just now. He completely destroyed me in the first two games and I came back in games 3 and 4 pretty convincingly. Buylisting the first and second place prize support (mox sapphire and some ancestral visions) then splitting the check.
Never played game 5 of the finals, but did grab Chinese food with my opponent and talked about our day. So far... not changing a single card. Tron seems miserable though..
Semis was 2-1 vs jeskai nahiri, 2-0 vs affinity, and 2-2-1 vs Jund shift.
Anyways, 2-1 vs Scapeshift, pretty comfortably
Probably gonna be a while before top 8 starts so it's pizza timeeeee.
3-0 with 2-1 victory over burn. I only dropped game one vs burn.
Also now I'm 4-0, just finished up 2-0 against some form of eldrazi deck. I think it was sultai but he never casted anything blue?? Other than that it was traditional temples and endless ones with TK SEER and inquisitions and matter reshaper and all the usual suspects.
Go go supreme verdict? Haven't even gotten to cast my pet vendilion cliques :/
Secure the wastes is convenient tho! On to rd 3, with the way these matches are going it'll probably Be mono blue crab tribal or something lol
Edit: 2-1 vS BURN
3 blessed alliance + 2 dispel plus 3 snaps....
Gained 12 life in game 3 lol
There's at least 2 jeskai nahiri guys in the room bc they're riding with me.
My list is the same as what I posted last night with the main deck cliques. Sideboard 3 blessed alliance + 3 halo feels nice. Post board adding in thoughtseiZe, halo, and dispel gives us critical mass against combo. Engineered exp / souls / halo / alliance gives us critical match against infect / zoo / affinity. Vs Jund souls and engineered exp will get there, could consider halo for anti Lili ultimate, which is really the only way I ever lose that match.
Vs tron hope they draw a non God hand, see if vendilion clique gets there with thoughtseize. Consider slashing their tires after the match.
4x Flooded Strand
4x Polluted Delta
3x Snow-Covered Island
2x Snow-Covered Plains
1x Snow-Covered Swamp
2x Hallowed Fountain
1x Watery Grave
2x Drowned Catacomb
1x Mystic Gate
1x Glacial Fortress
1x Ghost Quarter
4x Esper Charm
2x Sphinx's Revelation
4x Path to Exile
4x Supreme Verdict
3x Logic knot
2x Negate
4x Cryptic Command
2x Secure The Wastes
3x Snapcaster Mage
2x Vendilion Clique
3x Blessed Alliance
3x Runed Halo
2x Thoughtseize
3x Lingering Souls
2x Engineered Explosives
2x Dispel
The only possible change could be -1 souls + 1 Duress, but that's not likely.
Vendilion Clique in those 2 flex slots is of course, really hot.
Lingering souls happens to be great against both affinity AND Jund and those were two f the biggest snare appeals besides burn.