I have tried a few EDH decks (Dralnu, Rafiq). I always get tired of decks after a while and build another. Outside of EDH, I always play red, so I figured I'd try to build a fun, competitive (oxymoron?) red deck. I have begun pimping it with altars and foils, but want more opinions before I drop too much cash on this. Any input would be great.
-Madblind Mountain, + Maze of ith
-Snow Covered Mountain, + Mystifying Maze
-Triskelavus + Mogg War Marshal
-Lightning Crafter +Goblin Recruiter
-Sundering Titan +Spitebellows
-Thran Dynamo +Gauntlet of Might
-Darksteel Ingot +Everflowing Chalice
-Thornbite Staff +Keldon Vandals
-Warp World +Vicious Shadows
-Spitebellows +Scroll Rack
-Chancellor of the Forge +Chaos Warp
-Godo, Bandit Warlord +Snow Covered Mountain
-Clone Shell +Karn Liberated
-Kozilek +Spitebellows
-Eye of Ugin +Snow Covered Mountain
-Everflowing Chalice +Junk Diver
-Keldon Vandals +Oxidda Scrapmelter
-deathrender +Ravenous Baboons
-Cloudstone Curio +Great Furnace
-Miren, the Moaning Well +High Market
Maybes? Mind's Eye- Yes card draw is good, but it hits kind of late and gets killed so fast.. Deathrender-Seems good, but I have yet to drop it and it do what I want it to... Rings of Brighthearth-Cute with Kiki, but seems underwhelming otherwise. Spine of Ish Ah-like another Karn, just can't find rom Trash for Treasure-not sure if I have enough artifacts to justify it Liquimetal Coating- cute, and I could add more artifact destruction, but.. seems sooo bad and gimicky. Aftershock-seems damn good, need to make room for it. Phyrexian Core-protects my artifacts from stuff like a kicked rite of replication on Myr Battlesphere Miren, the Moaning Well-Had to trade my foil one, put high market in, need to get another miren and run both.
Notes:
Not a fan of Infinite combos, or lots of land destruction, cards like the following will not be played:
Lightning Crafter, Thornbite Staff, Sundering Titan, Goblin Settler
So, I like a few others have mentioned have had a problem with “too expensive burn.”For instance, I was in a standard tournament over the weekend where I went 1-2. Out of the 4 losses, 3 of them I would have won next turn, but couldn’t because I was a mana short, or the burn I had or drew was just a little too expensive. I was running 24 lands and a pretty standard list like others in the thread. Another observation was that the only time I’d drop below 16 or so was if I was going to lose. So, I decided to speed up the clock on my deck using some of the Phyrexian mana cards.
Card Choices: Porcelain Legionnaire Effectively, a few extra Stormbloods. I feel like the extra 3power 2mana cost creatures is nice, so that you have 6 possible that can be in opening hand. First strike is very nice also. Maybe this should be Spined Thopter though, I’m not sure. Gut ShotAt first, I was skeptical, but the more I thought about it, the more it yells RDW to me. Nice tempo and turns on Stormblood. Koth of the HammerFor the past year, I have been reluctant to play this card. I just don’t think it is RDW. Everyone tells me different, and I need something big to stick late game, so it’s in here. I promise if Kargan Dragonlord was still here though, Koth wouldn’t be in my list. Galvanic BlastThis card is soo like omgwtf mediocre… I want and miss Lightning Bolt. I felt like for a faster clock and faster burn, I had to include this though.
Other Thought:
The amount of 2 and 3 ofs in here, makes me sick. I want so badly to have 9 4ofs and a 2 of… I’d love to fix it, I just don’t know how… I am liking the curve of the deck. 22 lands. 3 free casts, 12x 1 cmc, 13x 2cmc, 6x 3 cmc, 4x 4 cmc.
I feel like 4 of 1 of either koth of hero is too much of that card..
Spikeshots are good, but 4 of seems bad..
I’d love more Legionnaires.
3 Arc Trails seems right.
I like Brimstone, but I can’t decide on the correct number of them.
3 Phoenixes seems right also.
4 Gut Shots might be right, not sure though…
I check this thread 3 or 4 times a day, I just typically lurk. Any ideas will be taken into consideration, thanks
dv: The problem I have with street wraith is that cards like this tend to give you a false since of security( I guess that's how I'd explain it?). With cards like that, I feel that in your opening hand if you see it then it could swing whether you'd mulligan or not in the wrong direction. You might see the wraith and be like "well if I wraith into another pyretic ritual, I'll be fine," and then that turns out to not be the case. This is most likely the way I think, and not other people, but that's how I feel about the card.
Greetings everyone. This is my Rafiq of the Many Deck. Basically I don't really have a budget, except I won't be acquiring original Duals. I know this Manabase needs some work, but here it is.
Kiki Targets:
1x Wurmcoil Engine
1x Bogardan Hellkite
1x Hoarding Dragon
1x Myr Battlesphere
1x Inferno Titan
1x Precursor Golem
1x Conquering Manticore
Goblins:
1x Goblin Matron
1x Siege-Gang Commander
1x Stingscourger
1x Tuktuk Scrapper
1x Goblin Welder
1x Mogg War Marshal
1x Goblin Recruiter
1x Flametongue Kavu
Destruction:
1x Oxidda Scrapmelter
1x Ravenous Baboons
1x Chaos Warp
1x Karn Liberated
1x Spitebellows
1x Nevinyrral's Disk
1x All Is Dust
1x Ingot Chewer
1x Duplicant
1x Manic Vandal
1x Invader Parasite
1x Helm of Possession
1x Insurrection
1x Word of Seizing
Sac Outlets:
1x Goblin Bombardment
1x Ashnod’s Altar
1x Spawning Pit
1x Phyrexian Altar
Mana Accel:
1x Solemn Simulacrum
1x Pilgrim’s Eye
1x Gauntlet of Power
1x Mind Stone
1x Mana Crypt
1x Grim Monolith
1x Mana Vault
1x Extraplanar Lens
1x Caged Sun
1x Sol Ring
1x Gauntlet of Might
Card Draw / Hand Manipulation:
1x Mind's Eye
1x Scroll Rack
1x Memory Jar
1x Chandra Ablaze
1x Wheel of Fortune
1x Knollspine Dragon
1x Crystal Ball
1x Gamble
1x Sensei’s Divining Top
1x Nim Deathmantle
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Skullclamp
Other Stuff?:
1x Myr Retriever
1x Junk Diver
1x Mimic Vat
1x Vicious Shadows
Eldrazi:
1x Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
Lands:
1x Strip Mine
1x Kher Keep
1x Arid Mesa
1x Scalding Tarn
1x Wooded Foothills
1x Maze of Ith
1x High Market
1x Scrying Sheets
1x Temple of the False God
1x Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1x Mystifying Maze
1x Great Furnace
26x Snow-Covered Mountain
-Madblind Mountain, + Maze of ith
-Snow Covered Mountain, + Mystifying Maze
-Triskelavus + Mogg War Marshal
-Lightning Crafter +Goblin Recruiter
-Sundering Titan +Spitebellows
-Thran Dynamo +Gauntlet of Might
-Darksteel Ingot +Everflowing Chalice
-Thornbite Staff +Keldon Vandals
-Warp World +Vicious Shadows
-Spitebellows +Scroll Rack
-Chancellor of the Forge +Chaos Warp
-Godo, Bandit Warlord +Snow Covered Mountain
-Clone Shell +Karn Liberated
-Kozilek +Spitebellows
-Eye of Ugin +Snow Covered Mountain
-Everflowing Chalice +Junk Diver
-Keldon Vandals +Oxidda Scrapmelter
-deathrender +Ravenous Baboons
-Cloudstone Curio +Great Furnace
-Miren, the Moaning Well +High Market
Maybes?
Mind's Eye- Yes card draw is good, but it hits kind of late and gets killed so fast..
Deathrender-Seems good, but I have yet to drop it and it do what I want it to...
Rings of Brighthearth-Cute with Kiki, but seems underwhelming otherwise.
Spine of Ish Ah-like another Karn, just can't find rom
Trash for Treasure-not sure if I have enough artifacts to justify it
Liquimetal Coating- cute, and I could add more artifact destruction, but.. seems sooo bad and gimicky.
Aftershock-seems damn good, need to make room for it.
Phyrexian Core-protects my artifacts from stuff like a kicked rite of replication on Myr Battlesphere
Miren, the Moaning Well-Had to trade my foil one, put high market in, need to get another miren and run both.
Notes:
Not a fan of Infinite combos, or lots of land destruction, cards like the following will not be played:
Lightning Crafter, Thornbite Staff, Sundering Titan, Goblin Settler
3x Chandra’s Phoenix (3)
4x Stormblood Berserker (2)
2x Porcelain Legionnaire (2)
4x Stromkirk Noble (1)
2x Spikeshot Elder (1)
2x Goblin Arsonist (1)
4x Shrine of Burning Rage (2)
3x Brimstone Volley (3)
3x Arc Trail (2)
3x Gut Shot (0)
4x Galvanic Blast (1)
4x Rootbound Crag
18x Mountain
4x Ancient Grudge
2x Perilous Myr
3x Vulshok Refugee
3x Ratchet Bomb
3x Manabarbs
So, I like a few others have mentioned have had a problem with “too expensive burn.”For instance, I was in a standard tournament over the weekend where I went 1-2. Out of the 4 losses, 3 of them I would have won next turn, but couldn’t because I was a mana short, or the burn I had or drew was just a little too expensive. I was running 24 lands and a pretty standard list like others in the thread. Another observation was that the only time I’d drop below 16 or so was if I was going to lose. So, I decided to speed up the clock on my deck using some of the Phyrexian mana cards.
Card Choices:
Porcelain Legionnaire Effectively, a few extra Stormbloods. I feel like the extra 3power 2mana cost creatures is nice, so that you have 6 possible that can be in opening hand. First strike is very nice also. Maybe this should be Spined Thopter though, I’m not sure.
Gut ShotAt first, I was skeptical, but the more I thought about it, the more it yells RDW to me. Nice tempo and turns on Stormblood.
Koth of the HammerFor the past year, I have been reluctant to play this card. I just don’t think it is RDW. Everyone tells me different, and I need something big to stick late game, so it’s in here. I promise if Kargan Dragonlord was still here though, Koth wouldn’t be in my list.
Galvanic BlastThis card is soo like omgwtf mediocre… I want and miss Lightning Bolt. I felt like for a faster clock and faster burn, I had to include this though.
Other Thought:
The amount of 2 and 3 ofs in here, makes me sick. I want so badly to have 9 4ofs and a 2 of… I’d love to fix it, I just don’t know how… I am liking the curve of the deck. 22 lands. 3 free casts, 12x 1 cmc, 13x 2cmc, 6x 3 cmc, 4x 4 cmc.
I feel like 4 of 1 of either koth of hero is too much of that card..
Spikeshots are good, but 4 of seems bad..
I’d love more Legionnaires.
3 Arc Trails seems right.
I like Brimstone, but I can’t decide on the correct number of them.
3 Phoenixes seems right also.
4 Gut Shots might be right, not sure though…
I check this thread 3 or 4 times a day, I just typically lurk. Any ideas will be taken into consideration, thanks
1 Simic Sky Swallower
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Cold-Eyed Selkie
1 Sovereigns of Lost Alara
1 Deep-Sea Kraken
1 Multani, Maro-Sorcerer
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Tutors: 11
1 Worldly Tutor
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Eladamri’s Call
1 Wargate
1 Stonehewer Giant
1 Steelshaper’s Gift
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Idyllic Tutor
1 Riptide Shapeshifter
1 Academy Rector
1 Mystical Tutor
Recursion Type Things: 7
1 Reveillark
1 Saffi Eriksdotter
1 Loxodon Heirarch
1 Sun Titan
1 Genesis
1 Eternal Witness
1 Dauntless Escort
Creature pump: 11
1 Qietus Spike
1 Rancor
1 Sword of Vengeance
1 Behemoth Sledge
1 Eldrazi Conscription
1 Finest Hour
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Might of Oaks
1 Umezawa’s Jitte
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Selesnya Signet
1 Cultivate
1 Solemn Simulcrum
1 Sol Ring
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Kodama’s Reach
1 Mirari’s Wake
Targetted Destruction: 9
1 Bant Charm
1 Aura Shards
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Krosan Grip
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Path to Exile
1 Acidic Slime
1 Aura of Silence
Board Sweeps: 3
1 Austere Command
1 Wrath of God
1 Catasrophe
Controlly Stuff: 3
1 Duelling Grounds
1 Silent Arbiter
1 Aven Mindcensor
Card Draw: 2
1 Rhystric Study
1 Mulldrifter
Gimmicky stuff?: 4
1 Sensei’s Divining Top
1 Seedborn Muse
1 Mistmeadow Witch
1 Glory
Lands: 34
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Glacial Fortress
1 City of Brass
1 Adarkar Wastes
1 Yavimaya Coast
1 Brushland
1 Simic Growth Chamber
1 Selesnya Sanctuary
1 Graypelt Refuge
1 Sejiri Refuge
1 Wooded Bastion
1 Mystic Gate
1 Flagstones of Trokair
1 Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
1 Eiganjo Castle
1 Breeding Pool
1 Temple Garden
1 Halowed Fountain
1 Nimbus Maze
1 Seaside Citadel
1 Stirring Wildwood
1 Razorverge Thicket
1 Prahv, Spires of Order
1 Arid Mesa
1 Bant Panorama
2x Island
4x Forest
3x Plains
Some cards that probably need to make their way in:
Please let me know what ya'll think, and I would love some input, thanks