The thing with banning Chalice of the void is it has a lot of collateral damage to other decks to. Fish, mono blue tron, boros bridge the main ones. A lot of decks need it to compete with fast decks. And SSG the same with Boros bridge, restore balance, grisalbrand, storm decks. If affinity gets there mox opal why cant these deck keep there SSG. All of with have not put up Consistent finishes.
There Real problem with the eldrazi deck is its lands, mainly eldrazi temple in my opinion over eye. Temple is ancient tomb with no draw back. They get TKS, and smasher on turn two. With eye staying around its still vary fast hands with mimic but it is legendary and i don't see how that's any different then affinity just dropping there hand turn 1-2. And it will keep the tron Players from crying about eye being gone.
In no way am i a Tron, Eldrazi, or Twin player. But banning Twin was one of the worst moves Wotc has done in recent years. And now they have to add even more cards to the banned list hopeful just one and not more. And if they do i am pretty sure they are not gonna take anything off the list with fear off this happening all over again with something else and having to admit another mistake.
Hello Everyone. Let me start by saying i haven't played Magic in a little over a year so i Been Looking around for a Modern deck that plays to my Lock down style(Humility Stax in Legacy) and iv settled on the Bridge list. Just looking to Get a little more input on my list.
Yes i do know i am running 61 cards. Since twin got banned i was thinking of dropping 1-2 Ghostly prison for a runed halo but with the jeski prowless picking up lately i might keep it the way it is. Still working on a side but this is what i got so far
Did anyone else notice after the first 3 activations by herigate druid sam was only taping 2 elve after that? And if im not mistaken Sam didnt evan have enuff power on the bord for leathal if james blocks with eernal witness. So how was he able to attack with 2 visionarys?
Hello, Im just coming back to magic after a long brake and was looking into modern again. Were i do agree with most of the banned list. I had a hypothetical question (i was think about all day at work)... What if wizards decides to say, lets get rid of the modern banned list and make it a restricted list instead? And im not trolling, it was hours i was thinking about this too
Would hypergenesis be a thing again or dredge, thopter depths, storm alittle faster, stoneblade...im pretty sure affinity would be the best deck thow
Im one of thows people that uses it in weird decks. If you ever heard of Walkhard aka turbo land from the SCG open 2 years ago ithink, played by ali. it uesed Exploration, Horn of greed, crucible of worlds, wasteland and walk the aeons to take infinate turns.
Or the original Scapeshift deck from worlds acouple years ago with Jace and maze of ith. But its just another variant on lands.
I think bannin S&T would not open up other combo decks. Cuz as it stands the reason why most S&T decks are doing good is cuz Counter-top is in the top tables and they play like no 3drops to stop show and tell and intuition, and for some reason there not playing humility.
This is not spam!!! i really belive one of the main reasons S&T decks do well is Emrakul. Its a second win condition, Only win condition in other non- storm/s&T combo decks. It takes an Extra turn(searchable with grisalbrand) and Anihilates
aeon-bridge, shelldock isle, omni, sneek and show, NO-show, eureka, hypergen, hivemind, descendant's path, food chain, elves. Other then elves and food chain everthing else would only have there name sake card and would most likely be to slow to play. Then were back to only rock papper sissors- Mavrick, Top, Rug. loam decks/mud to slow to keep up with rug top locks it down like storm/high tide or with rebuild/energy flux, maverick rises once again to take on control(were back to a year ago)
Thats just my two cents, i love show and tell decks but just think about it every one runs emrakul as a kill. Plus if emrakul gone grindstone comes back
Since you are already running green for crop, Try running living wish to find the creatures you need. also gives you options to other random stuff- karakas, yixlid jailer, shinkmaw
But you have to admit The weird names are one of the atractions to some of these decks and to legacy in general:
•Eternal garden- im assuming cuz its lands with eternal witness/knight of reliquary
•raisen brand- aluren combo from old(from the era of everything named after food)
•Golden Grams- was both boomerman combo and the Gamekeeper combo(in the era of everything being named after food)
•cheerios-storm combo with 0cc guys
•team italia-belive cuz its creator is italian
•Nightmare effect-belive named after its crators old MTGsalvation screen name
But theres some i would like to know are:
•Dirty kitty- golbins with fecundity??
•Trisomy 21 (scientific word for down syndrome)- witch was a junk loam deck that destroys everything
•Mity Qinn-mono white control
•Eva Green-g/b deck
•Tean titians- Goblin welder/ reanimate
Random names
•New horizens-bant tempo deck
•Dark horizens-junk tempo with heavy discard
No, that does not work. Enchantresses trigger when the spell is played and resolve before the spell itself resolves. Ancestral Knowledge triggers when it comes into play, ie, after the spell has resolved.
Thats what i thought but just wanted to make sure you know. Thanks!
Still mite mess around with the blue splash
Hello, I dont really post much on here but i figured i ask you guys and not make a post in the rules fourm.
i was thinking of doing a Blue splash but not for words of wind thow. for in the eye of chaos and Ancestral Knowledge so my question was can i put the enchantress effect on the stack to search with the knowledge firest befor drawing?
Uh. Goblin Recruiter is bonkers. I know this because when I first started playing the guy who taught me to play had Dirty Kitty put together. That deck was freaking bananas. He won on turn 2 nearly every game, ending in an Empty the Warrens or a Grape Shot. I won't say I know enough about combo to say that it should def' come off but just looking at how much consistency that gives to a lightning fast and powerful aggro deck like Goblins I can honestly say that card should stay banned.
Im usually not the type of person to talk in what should be banned and what shouldnt, but Goblin recruiter is one of thows cards that should stay on the list
I dont remember the days of FCG so i dont know how crazy it was, but i do remmember the days of Dirty Kitty its when i got into competive play and i remember how consistant it was. Evan if you counter food chain or fecundity, recuiter sets them up for plan B.
Dirty kitty was still viable in old extended for some time WHY wouldnt recruiter push them back into legacys teir?
Ill even say people would stop play vial gobs and chose one of the combos, personaly i would play fecundity over vial anyday if it were unbanned.
At protoaddict, what you just named is 13 dead cards unless you have FC in play. The FC decks now adays HAVE to have it or they just fiddle an die. FCG sets them up to go straight aggro if they dont have it. Gobs has 2 plans of attack were other FC decks dont(maybe elves)
OK guys, think broader here. Cage just hoses so much in the format.
Cards/decks it hits:
Green Sun Zenith
Reanimator
Natural Order
Past in Flames Based storm
Snapcaster Mage antics.
Dryad Arbor off a Knight of the Reliquary
Just what I thought of off the top of my head here.
Cabal therapy. This also takes on some other of the random decks too such as pox's only creature cant remember name, same with trimsy21's gigapede. Umm Ooze combo, vengevine/bloodghast/ Breakfast/4hoursemen. NOT to sure on hypergenesis
As someone who plays random gravebased decks this hurts me aLOT. Ill edit more as i remmeber other decks that it hits.
Ancient Tomb
Karakas
Though the Breach
Toxic Deluge
Rishidian Port
Not Reprinted:
Jace the mind sculptor
Armageddon
Chalice of the Void
Show and Tell
Sinkhole
There Real problem with the eldrazi deck is its lands, mainly eldrazi temple in my opinion over eye. Temple is ancient tomb with no draw back. They get TKS, and smasher on turn two. With eye staying around its still vary fast hands with mimic but it is legendary and i don't see how that's any different then affinity just dropping there hand turn 1-2. And it will keep the tron Players from crying about eye being gone.
In no way am i a Tron, Eldrazi, or Twin player. But banning Twin was one of the worst moves Wotc has done in recent years. And now they have to add even more cards to the banned list hopeful just one and not more. And if they do i am pretty sure they are not gonna take anything off the list with fear off this happening all over again with something else and having to admit another mistake.
4 chalice of the void
4 Blood moon
4 Ghostly prison
2 Oblivion ring
2 Assemble the legion
2 magus of the moon
2 koth of the hammer
2 Ajani Vengeant
3 anger of the Gods
4 lightning helix
6 plains
1 wild prairie
2 clifftop retreat
4 temple of triumph
4 arid mesa
4 sacred foundry
Yes i do know i am running 61 cards. Since twin got banned i was thinking of dropping 1-2 Ghostly prison for a runed halo but with the jeski prowless picking up lately i might keep it the way it is. Still working on a side but this is what i got so far
2 leyline of sanctity
2 nevermore
2 stony silence
1 sowing salt
2 crumble to dust
1 boil
1 wrath of god
2 rest in peace/ratchet bomb/damping matrix
Would hypergenesis be a thing again or dredge, thopter depths, storm alittle faster, stoneblade...im pretty sure affinity would be the best deck thow
Or the original Scapeshift deck from worlds acouple years ago with Jace and maze of ith. But its just another variant on lands.
This is not spam!!! i really belive one of the main reasons S&T decks do well is Emrakul. Its a second win condition, Only win condition in other non- storm/s&T combo decks. It takes an Extra turn(searchable with grisalbrand) and Anihilates
aeon-bridge, shelldock isle, omni, sneek and show, NO-show, eureka, hypergen, hivemind, descendant's path, food chain, elves. Other then elves and food chain everthing else would only have there name sake card and would most likely be to slow to play. Then were back to only rock papper sissors- Mavrick, Top, Rug. loam decks/mud to slow to keep up with rug top locks it down like storm/high tide or with rebuild/energy flux, maverick rises once again to take on control(were back to a year ago)
Thats just my two cents, i love show and tell decks but just think about it every one runs emrakul as a kill. Plus if emrakul gone grindstone comes back
http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/deck_tech_fire_tide_with_ryan_.html
•Eternal garden- im assuming cuz its lands with eternal witness/knight of reliquary
•raisen brand- aluren combo from old(from the era of everything named after food)
•Golden Grams- was both boomerman combo and the Gamekeeper combo(in the era of everything being named after food)
•cheerios-storm combo with 0cc guys
•team italia-belive cuz its creator is italian
•Nightmare effect-belive named after its crators old MTGsalvation screen name
But theres some i would like to know are:
•Dirty kitty- golbins with fecundity??
•Trisomy 21 (scientific word for down syndrome)- witch was a junk loam deck that destroys everything
•Mity Qinn-mono white control
•Eva Green-g/b deck
•Tean titians- Goblin welder/ reanimate
Random names
•New horizens-bant tempo deck
•Dark horizens-junk tempo with heavy discard
Thats what i thought but just wanted to make sure you know. Thanks!
Still mite mess around with the blue splash
i was thinking of doing a Blue splash but not for words of wind thow. for in the eye of chaos and Ancestral Knowledge so my question was can i put the enchantress effect on the stack to search with the knowledge firest befor drawing?
Im usually not the type of person to talk in what should be banned and what shouldnt, but Goblin recruiter is one of thows cards that should stay on the list
I dont remember the days of FCG so i dont know how crazy it was, but i do remmember the days of Dirty Kitty its when i got into competive play and i remember how consistant it was. Evan if you counter food chain or fecundity, recuiter sets them up for plan B.
Dirty kitty was still viable in old extended for some time WHY wouldnt recruiter push them back into legacys teir?
Ill even say people would stop play vial gobs and chose one of the combos, personaly i would play fecundity over vial anyday if it were unbanned.
At protoaddict, what you just named is 13 dead cards unless you have FC in play. The FC decks now adays HAVE to have it or they just fiddle an die. FCG sets them up to go straight aggro if they dont have it. Gobs has 2 plans of attack were other FC decks dont(maybe elves)
This is the list iv been running and may stick with the shell, just have to fit in misthollow griffin but dont know what to take out, does anyone have any suggestions. will lose 1 gaea's cradle and 1 wall of blossoms for a forest and the third fierce empath
2 Islands
2 Forests
4 Tropical Island
3 Ancient Tomb
2 Gaea's Cradle
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Verdant Catacombs
4 Birds of Paradise
1 Myojin of Seeing Winds
2 Noble Hierarch
4 Coiling Oracle
4 Court Hussar
1 Æthersnipe
4 Mulldrifter
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
2 Fierce Empath
4 Wall of Blossoms
3 Raven Familiar
4 Force of Will
4 Food Chain
3 Show and Tell
Cabal therapy. This also takes on some other of the random decks too such as pox's only creature cant remember name, same with trimsy21's gigapede. Umm Ooze combo, vengevine/bloodghast/ Breakfast/4hoursemen. NOT to sure on hypergenesis
As someone who plays random gravebased decks this hurts me aLOT. Ill edit more as i remmeber other decks that it hits.