Jaya Ballard, Squee Nabob, and Mikaeus have been useful in testings. So ordered them today.
Mikaues - often cast for 1W, but sometimes I have cast him for 2W as a follow to a turn 2 hero's blade. This guy is strong, but not more than one of him in the deck as he can be really slooooow. However, in a stalled board his ability to enlarge the entire team helps.
Squee Nabob - the disadvantage compared to squee immortal is that nabob is vulnerable to exile effects and surgical extraction, and one less power. The advantage is he shines when he meets Nahiri or Jaya. He makes Nahiri +2 into simply "draw a card". Nabob also has only one R in cmc, making him easier to cast than his newer card.
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Other cards that I wanted to add but no more room in the deck..
Alesha - first strike and ability to revive. But she's competing with kemba, squee, tuktuk, and jaya.
Yasova Dragonclaw - useful ability, but she's competing with 3 cmc legends who are better. Adding her would also force me to put in more green mana sources again.
Djeru With Eyes Open - can be used to tutor for Nahiri, but 5 cmc is too high. Hard to explain in words, but this deck has a habit of sometimes getting stuck on just 2 or 3 mana. Nahiri is the highest cmc the deck can afford in the main.
Heart of Kiran - 2 mana 4/4, but the crew 3 requirement is hard to do.
Pia and Kiran Nalaar - the parents are good. But they're competing with Nahiri in the 4 cmc slot.
Thanks Fluff! I was pretty sure we had interacted from before also but I wasn't 100% certain.
I think running an extra Colossus in the side is a great idea. I did play against Death's Shadow in a local tournament. The games were really close but I ended up going 1-2 against him. This was pre-Colossus for my list though so I hope my matchup against the deck will be better now.
You're welcome. Well, you have the advantage of being a rogue deck.. so at first people won't be sure what to do. Having many auras opens you up being 2 for one'd by removal heavy decks.. though I think swarmyard and rhonas help the deck become more resilient to that problem.
Are the birds of paraidse being useful?
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Nice to see you Weltkrieg. Saw you years ago at the legacy forums helping people at the budget section.
Dryad Militant is better than samurai at hosing GDS and Dredge. A playset of militant added to the main, replacing the playset of samurai.
The dryads made the deck much faster too. Together with 2 zurgo, 1 rhys, 1 hope of g, 1 kytheon + 4 dryad = there are now nine 1 cmc creatures. The dryads have no synergy with hero's blade, but Anafenza and Mikaeus can still give them added power.
Thanks for the suggest. My answer to Nabob is he will be tested. Proxy in March, then buy in April along with Emrakul if good test results. There is indeed some synergy with his return to hand ability.
Oh, and I've mostly listened to your advice to try cut down to two colors. The updated deck list is in the first post. Have removed almost all the green legends. The only creature that needs green mana is Emmara, as her token generating has helped me grind some games. The only green sources left is a razorverge, and a temple garden that can fetched with the 8 fetch lands.. if opponents cut me off from green, they stop only one card.
The removed green legends were all replaced with a playset of Samurai of the Pale Curtain. Samurai does not have synergy with hero's blade, but he's a decent two drop on his own. Acts as a form of mild main deck grave removal.
Wait... remembered something. One follow up question.
If Samurai of the Pale Curtain and some other creatures are on the battlefield, then opponent cast wrath of god. All creatures including samurai are destroyed at the same time.. would samurai still exile everything that got destroyed by wrath of god?
Also, dredge would 1000% play ichorid. The list would just look a bit different. (Think closer to bridgevine, but now it can also grind you out and is faster)
I wanted to make sure I didn't look like an ass with my comment so I asked Sodeq considering he's probably the world's leading Dredge expert at this point. He said he doesn't see any lines with Ichorid in Modern Dredge but also echoed your sentiment that it's a very powerful engine with Bridge. At that point though, is it really Dredge still?
I'm not sure if it would be busted, but it would be played in some sort of dredge variant + bridge. Basically, this gives you another 4 hits that are "immediate" for prized amalgam, that also dont require a land like bloodghast does.
You can adjust the deck by adding more sticher's suppliers and maybe a sac outlet like viscera seer to increase black density. It seems pretty dooable?
With the different answers, I guess it's not sure if Ichorid will be used if it got reprinted. The reason I asked is because Dredge is a deck that I don't personally own, but have played against a couple of times already.. just out of curiosity if Ichorid would still be good in modern without the other legacy cards that helps it in legacy dredge. Anyway, thanks for the reply.
1. I shoot an opponent's Arclight Phoenix with lightning bolt. The phoenix would get exiled by the samurai?
2. Opponent put an arclight phoenix from hand into the yard with discard of faithless looting. The phoenix will not be exiled by samurai?
Thank you for the effort in writing this. Enjoyed it.
I quit during Onslaught block and resumed playing in Zendikar, but have a very keen interest in knowing about Mirrodin + the adventures of Glissa and friends.
Mikaues - often cast for 1W, but sometimes I have cast him for 2W as a follow to a turn 2 hero's blade. This guy is strong, but not more than one of him in the deck as he can be really slooooow. However, in a stalled board his ability to enlarge the entire team helps.
Squee Nabob - the disadvantage compared to squee immortal is that nabob is vulnerable to exile effects and surgical extraction, and one less power. The advantage is he shines when he meets Nahiri or Jaya. He makes Nahiri +2 into simply "draw a card". Nabob also has only one R in cmc, making him easier to cast than his newer card.
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Other cards that I wanted to add but no more room in the deck..
Alesha - first strike and ability to revive. But she's competing with kemba, squee, tuktuk, and jaya.
Yasova Dragonclaw - useful ability, but she's competing with 3 cmc legends who are better. Adding her would also force me to put in more green mana sources again.
Djeru With Eyes Open - can be used to tutor for Nahiri, but 5 cmc is too high. Hard to explain in words, but this deck has a habit of sometimes getting stuck on just 2 or 3 mana. Nahiri is the highest cmc the deck can afford in the main.
Heart of Kiran - 2 mana 4/4, but the crew 3 requirement is hard to do.
Pia and Kiran Nalaar - the parents are good. But they're competing with Nahiri in the 4 cmc slot.
You're welcome. Well, you have the advantage of being a rogue deck.. so at first people won't be sure what to do. Having many auras opens you up being 2 for one'd by removal heavy decks.. though I think swarmyard and rhonas help the deck become more resilient to that problem.
Are the birds of paraidse being useful?
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Nice to see you Weltkrieg. Saw you years ago at the legacy forums helping people at the budget section.
Not sure it it was posted already in the thread.
Magic Fest Los Angeles 2019
Top 8
1st place - UR Phoenix
2nd place - Hardened Scales
3-4 - Hardened Scales, Dredge
5-8 - UR Phoenix, Grixis Shadow, Dredge, Titanshift
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Dryad Militant is better than samurai at hosing GDS and Dredge. A playset of militant added to the main, replacing the playset of samurai.
The dryads made the deck much faster too. Together with 2 zurgo, 1 rhys, 1 hope of g, 1 kytheon + 4 dryad = there are now nine 1 cmc creatures. The dryads have no synergy with hero's blade, but Anafenza and Mikaeus can still give them added power.
No more questions.
Oh, and I've mostly listened to your advice to try cut down to two colors. The updated deck list is in the first post. Have removed almost all the green legends. The only creature that needs green mana is Emmara, as her token generating has helped me grind some games. The only green sources left is a razorverge, and a temple garden that can fetched with the 8 fetch lands.. if opponents cut me off from green, they stop only one card.
The removed green legends were all replaced with a playset of Samurai of the Pale Curtain. Samurai does not have synergy with hero's blade, but he's a decent two drop on his own. Acts as a form of mild main deck grave removal.
Is it the same thing if for example samurai blocks a Prized Amalgam. Both creatures die at the same time, so both are exiled?
If Samurai of the Pale Curtain and some other creatures are on the battlefield, then opponent cast wrath of god. All creatures including samurai are destroyed at the same time.. would samurai still exile everything that got destroyed by wrath of god?
With the different answers, I guess it's not sure if Ichorid will be used if it got reprinted. The reason I asked is because Dredge is a deck that I don't personally own, but have played against a couple of times already.. just out of curiosity if Ichorid would still be good in modern without the other legacy cards that helps it in legacy dredge. Anyway, thanks for the reply.
For example, I have Samurai of the Pale Curtain on the field..
1. I shoot an opponent's Arclight Phoenix with lightning bolt. The phoenix would get exiled by the samurai?
2. Opponent put an arclight phoenix from hand into the yard with discard of faithless looting. The phoenix will not be exiled by samurai?
Follow up questions:
1. What if opponent is the one in control of the rest in peace?
2. Replacement effects does not use the stack, right?